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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    Exactly. Like Pachter! But it is interesting to see sources. We should have a source database, tracking which ones are full of $#@! so that we can ban those sources from this forum!
    that is a very good idea. wouldn't be too hard to setup either, just set the database up like the known spamming ip addresses and voila


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    I quite like patcher. And he seems to be pretty accurate as far as I can tell. But maybe I can't tell very well

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    Price cut for the ps4 wannabe is next. As

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    Gonna be real hard to convince me that XBox One is going to have the massive shipping numbers that the other article was stating after reading this:
    Xbox One w Polsce późno - dopiero w czerwcu 2014 roku? A premiera już tylko w 13 krajach...

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    Plan dotyczący funkcji Xbox One został już zrewidowany. Wygląda na to, że teraz zmieniony zostanie plan sprzedaży, co oznacza złe rzeczy dla polskich graczy. Ale nie tylko dla nich. Przeczytacie o tym tylko u nas.
    Jak dowiedzieliśmy się nieoficjalnie, wewnątrz Microsoftu krąży już informacja o tym, że z listy 21 rynków, na których planowano premierę Xbox One w listopadzie tego roku, wypadnie 8 państw. Wśród nich Rosja i wiele innych ważnych krajów. To oznacza, że premiera konsoli będzie znacznie skromniejsza. 8 poszkodowanych rynków otrzyma sprzęt prawdopodobnie w 2014 roku.Jak się okazuje, fal premier Xboksa One miało być więcej niż można było się spodziewać - Polska miała otrzymać konsolę dopiero w 5 czy 6 kolejności. Pozbawienie 8 rynków konsoli na starcie mogło oznaczać, że zostaniemy zepchnięci jeszcze dalej, choć wciąż sprawa jest rozwojowa. Wygląda na to, że czarny scenariusz się nie sprawdzi - w tej chwili mówi się o tym, że Polska znajdzie się w trzecim lub czwartym rzucie X1. Co oznacza premierę w czerwcu 2014 roku.Skąd te problemy? Prawdopodobnie z powodu zmian, które Microsoft musiał wdrożyć po wycofaniu się z przedstawionego na E3 projektu Xboksa One. Ale nie tylko. Drugim powodem są zmiany organizacyjne wewnątrz firmy, które opóźniają działania.Podobno polski oddział firmy myśli o planie awaryjnym, który zakłada sprowadzanie konsoli z innego rynku EU, niejako pod nosem centrali, i sprzedawanie go u nas. To pozwoli ograniczyć samodzielny import graczy, a przede wszystkim zaliczyć go na swoje konto. Problem w tym, że w szafie kryje się jeszcze jeden trup.Otóż wcale nie jest przesądzone, że konsola sprowadzona z innego kraju nie będzie u nas banowana i odcinana od sieciowych dóbr. Wprawdzie zapowiedziano brak blokady regionalnej, ale ona dotyczy gier. MS nie wypowiada się na ten temat nawet wewnętrznie, bo wyciek informacji mocno osłabiłby i tak nadwątlony wizerunek firmy. Temat tkwi w zawieszeniu.Polskiemu MS bardzo zależy na szybkiej premierze Xbox One również dlatego, że sprzedaż Xboksa 360 z tygodnia na tydzień słabnie. W ostatnim czasie w tyle zostawia go nie tylko PS3, ale nawet... PSP Street. Jesienna premiera PS4 i Xbox One oznacza jeszcze gorszą sprzedaż starszej konsoli - a polski MS ma plan do wykonania. Wcześniejsza premiera X1 oznacza zmianę planu sprzedaży dla X360, co będzie dla rodzimego Microsoftu korzystne.Prawda jest taka, że Microsoft mocno oberwał po E3 i to znalazło odbicie nie tylko w opiniach w internecie, ale i zainteresowaniu X1 - mało kto się jednak spodziewał, że dotknie to również sprzedaży X360 i to już teraz. Sprzedaż zaczęła się załamywać zaraz po E3 i dotyczyła wszystkich konsol (bo o nowej generacji było głośno, więc chwilowo wszyscy zapomnieli o obecnej). Problem w tym, że Xbox 360 w przeciwieństwie do konkurencji się nie odbił.Najsmutniejszy wniosek jest taki, że mimo dynamicznego wzrostu sprzedaży X360 w zeszłym roku, centrala wciąż traktuje polski rynek jako ten gorszy. To oczywiście wynika z liczby konsol i sprzedanych gier w naszym kraju, ale by zyskać, najpierw trzeba zainwestować (wybaczcie truizm). Mnie najbardziej interesuje, jaki będzie status Xboksa One w okresie od światowej do polskiej premiery. Czy polski MS będzie dystrybuował konsole zza zachodniej granicy? Czy będzie ją można użytkować bezpiecznie i w stu procentach?Odpowiedzi na razie brak, bo Microsoftu tradycyjnie "nie komentuje plotek".Marcin Kosman
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    Regarding this thread, the PS4 is going to have a 75% lead after Gamescom. You have to remember, Mattrick is gone and the new director isn't going to just let things slide, so the MS marketing is greasing more than a few website posters to come up with posts like, "Since Xbone has caught up, what gives the PS4 the edge?", and "15 reasons why the XBone is a better deal than the PS4". Idiot journalism these days, more like selfie journalism. Gamescom is going to bring reality back to the picture, showing how far production is by virtue of how many actual early production units are available, and that doesn't mean "seen one in the back room", but whether there are dozens. If MS doesn't make an effort to show an XBone directly hooked up to a power outlet and HDTV, then that will be BS. That and Sony is probably going to at least tease what the PS4 looks like inside, with all the final components identified. This isn't even addressing the next wave of games to be announced, with some PS4 heavy hitters. Gamescom is going to prove the reality of who looks most prepared for a huge launch. Let's see how well MS marketing can spin doctor the outcome of Gamescom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefein View Post
    Gonna be real hard to convince me that XBox One is going to have the massive shipping numbers that the other article was stating after reading this: http://polygamia.pl/Polygamia/1,1071...1_rynkow_.html
    What does it say? English translation.

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    Lmfao at that article.

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    lol Thats awesome.

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    LMAO, that was funny as $#@!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    Exactly. Like Pachter! But it is interesting to see sources. We should have a source database, tracking which ones are full of $#@! so that we can ban those sources from this forum!
    Funny you bring up Pachter because he was the Xbox messiah for the longest time and Xbox fans hung on his every word. They dropped him like a bad habit after e3. These guys are analyst. They do statistics based guess work. None of them are credible. They just happen to get it right sometimes.




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    yet again, u post greatness


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    Quote Originally Posted by KnotGamer901 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by ps3freak18 View Post
    Funny you bring up Pachter because he was the Xbox messiah for the longest time and Xbox fans hung on his every word. They dropped him like a bad habit after e3. These guys are analyst. They do statistics based guess work. None of them are credible. They just happen to get it right sometimes.
    He has been a joke since day one, and he is a joke today. But he probably gets paid more than me, so I guess the joke is on me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    He has been a joke since day one, and he is a joke today. But he probably gets paid more than me, so I guess the joke is on me
    I like what u did there, u uses so many jokes the joke was the actual joke! or something like that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    He has been a joke since day one, and he is a joke today. But he probably gets paid more than me, so I guess the joke is on me
    I Think so as well but you can't deny that a bunch of the Xbox crowd bowed to his every word because it was almost always positive news in their direction. I was shocked to hear the words MS dropped the ball coming out of his mouth. And they just gave Sony the console market. Not exact quotes but it was about that. He just talks out of his ass. Nothing special of him to note.




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    Quote Originally Posted by ps3freak18 View Post
    I Think so as well but you can't deny that a bunch of the Xbox crowd bowed to his every word because it was almost always positive news in their direction. I was shocked to hear the words MS dropped the ball coming out of his mouth. And they just gave Sony the console market. Not exact quotes but it was about that. He just talks out of his ass. Nothing special of him to note.
    well everybody will bow down as long as it's positive freaky.


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    well everybody will bow down as long as it's positive freaky.


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    I agree. I'm sure Sony fanboys stopped hating him and embraced him after e3 lol.




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    I honestly think there is a sizable probability that the PS4 could be under-clocked is comparison to the Xbox One. So even tho the PS4 has more GPU cores, they may be closer in performance than what we have yet to allow ourselves to realize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foraeli View Post
    I honestly think there is a sizable probability that the PS4 could be under-clocked is comparison to the Xbox One. So even tho the PS4 has more GPU cores, they may be closer in performance than what we have yet to allow ourselves to realize.
    sounds more like a ___ ____ dream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foraeli View Post
    I honestly think there is a sizable probability that the PS4 could be under-clocked is comparison to the Xbox One. So even tho the PS4 has more GPU cores, they may be closer in performance than what we have yet to allow ourselves to realize.
    Lol that was out of left field. How did you come to that theory?




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    Quote Originally Posted by ps3freak18 View Post
    I agree. I'm sure Sony fanboys stopped hating him and embraced him after e3 lol.
    He's still a douche.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    sounds more like a ___ ____ dream.
    Yeah, that is one point. Still, it would definitely better explain the small form factor of the PS4. This would be good for multiplatform games if this is true. It would mean that most all PS4 and Xbox One versions of games should have very few differences for people to gripe about, not that it would ever stop the fanboys from bickering haha.
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