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    Microsoft: Every Xbox One Can Be Used To Make Games -Indie announcement

    Every single Xbox One can be used to make games, Microsoft says—in other words, you can use the next-gen console as your very own development kit.

    The Xbox 360 was a closed system, but it appears that its successor will be far more open. In a statement to Kotaku today confirming news that leaked earlier on Game Informer, Xbox's corporate vice president Marc Whitten said that all Xbox Ones will function as development kits, which are usually only available to licensed developers.

    Here's Microsoft's official comment:

    Our vision is that every person can be a creator. That every Xbox One can be used for development. That every game and experience can take advantage of all of the features of Xbox One and Xbox LIVE. This means self-publishing. This means Kinect, the cloud, achievements. This means great discoverability on Xbox LIVE. We'll have more details on the program and the timeline at gamescom in August.
    http://kotaku.com/microsoft-every-xb...ames-898750954

    Wow. Talk about wooing the indies.

    Other sources:

    http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/24/x...lf-publishing/
    http://www.polygon.com/2013/7/24/455...elf-publishing
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    https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Blow/st...22372839321600

    Crecente is reporting no patch fees, no cert fees.

    Blow, as usual is being anti MS, LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Blow/st...22372839321600

    Crecente is reporting no patch fees, no cert fees.

    Blow, as usual is being anti MS, LOL.
    But what about this authorisation thing? Any details on what the process would be like?

    I'm not a budding dev - so this doesn't affect me either way - but I'm sure there are those that will be keen to try.

    Would it be as easy as booting it up - going into some settings and voila, you're in the Development environment?

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    They've completely reversed all their policies now, haven't they? I bet people can even get them to rename the box now! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by sainraja View Post
    They've completely reversed all their policies now, haven't they? I bet people can even get them to rename the box now! lol
    PlayStation 4 (2)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sainraja View Post
    They've completely reversed all their policies now, haven't they? I bet people can even get them to rename the box now! lol
    Yep. Sony leading and MS following.

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    It's crazy how much Microsoft has backtracked on a lot of established traits for the system. It's like the outcry of the internet's displeasure caused them to wake up and see the threat of Sony. I'm happy MS is at least listening though. Hopefully we can see some great indie titles on the XB1, just as we did for the 360.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistercrow View Post
    Yep. Sony leading and MS following.
    In regards to policy yes. But right now, the XB1 can do this (how open and how accessible it will be - I don't know - it might be a bunch of red tape etc before you can actually do it) but the XB1 is LBP'ing itself.

    Which is a good thing for the consumers (not that I or most/a lot of us will benefit from as I'm someone that is unlikely to use this) in the end. We need both to do well, we need to make sure that competition is there (which imo form over the years of following tech, that MS is very much anti-competition but that is neither here nor there so long as they don't actually end up being the monopoly).

    I'm reminded of the saying "Punish the action and not the person" with regards to the XB1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by admartian View Post
    PlayStation 4 (2)?
    PlayStation 3.5


    Almost there Microsoft, almost.

    PS4 has little to no competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sainraja View Post
    They've completely reversed all their policies now, haven't they? I bet people can even get them to rename the box now! lol
    Not sure this is a reversal as such, they just hadn't announced anything, and we all assumed the status quo form the 360 would continue.
    Nice to see competition in the market place is benefiting not just the consumers but the indie developer.

    Long live both Sony and MS. May they both keep upping the game to our benefit.
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    Check out MS! Lol slowly climbing up the ladder of redemption

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    cool feature.

    Now go kinect-less and $100 cheaper(won't happen).




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    Quote Originally Posted by admartian View Post
    But what about this authorisation thing? Any details on what the process would be like?

    I'm not a budding dev - so this doesn't affect me either way - but I'm sure there are those that will be keen to try.

    Would it be as easy as booting it up - going into some settings and voila, you're in the Development environment?
    We are just going to have to wait till August.
    Well you guys will have to wait, its made my life a lot simpler to figure out, need to upgrade all engine code to DX11 ASAP
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    Quote Originally Posted by mickice View Post
    PlayStation 3.5 Almost there Microsoft, almost.
    Yep. Now dump the mandatory Kinect and drop the price to $399.

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    This is cool stuff MS! Definitely one of the best things announced for XBone.




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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    We are just going to have to wait till August.
    Well you guys will have to wait, its made my life a lot simpler to figure out, need to upgrade all engine code to DX11 ASAP
    I presume so. Thanks anyway.
    That sounds like more fun than sifting through process/data dependencies...

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    I have a question....

    What does this mean as far as hacking the xbone to bootleg games?




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    Quote Originally Posted by sainraja View Post
    They've completely reversed all their policies now, haven't they? I bet people can even get them to rename the box now! lol
    I didn't know Microsoft had announced a X1 policy for this before.
    From what i remember they said they would have information for indies in the future.
    Well, looks like this is the announcement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    I have a question....

    What does this mean as far as hacking the xbone to bootleg games?
    Not a lot, compartmentalizing the O/S from the game API is one way to stop hackers having access to the stuff you don't want them to have.
    I imagine all the code for actually booting and launching a game o/s will be tucked away on the underlying O/S.

    3 Operating system virtualization suddenly makes a little bit more sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mistercrow View Post
    Yep. Now dump the mandatory Kinect and drop the price to $399.
    If they drop kinect then it will br a console similar to ps4 . Kinect technology with the system is what set it apart from the competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sith View Post
    If they drop kinect then it will br a console similar to ps4 . Kinect technology with the system is what set it apart from the competition.
    Yeah...God forbid....

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    I guess the rumors were true. This is very good news for the indie dev community. Nice move MS.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Sith View Post
    If they drop kinect then it will br a console similar to ps4 . Kinect technology with the system is what set it apart from the competition.


    True. If they drop kinect it won't be for a while. I'm glad it comes with kinect though. This way more devs will support it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sainraja View Post
    They've completely reversed all their policies now, haven't they? I bet people can even get them to rename the box now! lol
    Whatever it takes to make that money

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    Man I have a feeling this feature will be exploited to play unofficial codes...nobody believed other os was going to lead to the ps4 getting jb!

    Lol meant ps3

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