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    Quote Originally Posted by almusmonk View Post
    You calling me a lemming buster lol?. I just want them to be informed this time with real information unlike the whole ram fiasco which was total bs and spread like wildfire and still considered true. Obviously by microsofts shadow government and minions
    Not wanting to weigh in on the arguments one way or the other, it's pretty much given that Leadbetter is a troll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgotha View Post
    More info:



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    http://www.vgleaks.com/durango-memory-system-overview/


    Does this rule out hUMA for Xbone?
    God where the hell was that link when I needed it :P

    But yeah, a lot of what was discussed in that article would probably exclude X1 from a hUMA configuration. But some of the article was also speculative.

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    This belongs in the PlayStation vs Xbox section. That's why it exists.
    Last edited by GreatSpaceKoaster; 08-21-2013 at 17:42.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatSpaceKoaster View Post
    This belongs in the PlayStation vs Xbox section. That's why it exists.
    Title and OP is changed so now it is not a comparison thread.
    Last edited by Lefein; 08-21-2013 at 17:45.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefein View Post
    Title is changed so now it is not a comparison thread.
    Better modify your OP too cuz you are comparing to Ryse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatSpaceKoaster View Post
    Better modify your OP too cuz you are comparing to Ryse.
    Done and done. You are right.

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    This is great news, thanks for sharing Lefein.


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    Came to post the same article

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    Good article Lefein. So it looks like mynd was wrong.
    Last edited by mistercrow; 08-21-2013 at 18:13.

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    Kudos on the good news!


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    Quote Originally Posted by mistercrow View Post
    Good article Lefein. So it looks like mynd was wrong.
    Let's not rush to any conclusions.. For all we know, this could be a PR Gaf from AMD.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sajuuk Khar View Post
    God where the hell was that link when I needed it :P

    But yeah, a lot of what was discussed in that article would probably exclude X1 from a hUMA configuration. But some of the article was also speculative.
    http://www.vgleaks.com/durango-memory-system-overview/

    We do not know what is in the "GPU Memory System" box. That should be some sort of cache and MMU, and the buses are bi-directional. So, as far as the diagram goes, it looks like both CPU and GPU could and should be able to access both DRAM and esRAM. Since the buses are present, it is hard to imagine the designers would have ignored their use.

    On the other hand, the very existence of 32MB of big, hot and very, very expensive 6-transistor static RAM is confounding. 32MB is not enough for normal GPU operation. Is this mostly for GPU computation / minor CPU access? If so, that sounds like HSA / hUMA, and it could be a powerhouse for computation. But the GPU would still have to struggle with ordinary DRAM timings.

    Would PS4 GDDR5 (with caching) support equivalent GPU computation levels? That may be hard for anybody to know until we have running examples of ported and optimized HSA / hUMA games programs. And then we will see it.

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    I knew PS4 was hUMA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefein View Post
    Meh. 3rd parties.

    It sounds to me like they are trying for parity, and 'little bit' doesn't tell us much.

    --Though to be fair, the fact that they are saying this at all if its only a 'little bit' may mean its more than a 'little bit'.

    In the end, if the difference is not Xbox vs PS2 levels, then its not really a big deal for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedOrb_Collector View Post
    Meh. 3rd parties.

    It sounds to me like they are trying for parity, and 'little bit' doesn't tell us much.

    --Though to be fair, the fact that they are saying this at all if its only a 'little bit' may mean its more than a 'little bit'.

    In the end, if the difference is not Xbox vs PS2 levels, then its not really a big deal for me.
    Once developers change over to GPU compute, it will be that wide.

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    Smh and Xbox fans still try and downplay the clear advantage the PS4 has. Give developers a year and the gap will only widen. If this gen lasts as long as previous gens, Xbox one will be an expensive paper weight in 4 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabjabs View Post
    I'm just assuming here that it was misquoted. The hUMA system that AMD has been working on is more in relation to the PC APU's and unifying the entire memory system into a single pool something PC's simply haven't been able to do until now. Both X1 and Ps4 are built on this new system, Ps4 is still more powerful that's for sure it just feels like the explanation that is being given is incorrect.
    This.

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    Article says "out of PS4 and X1, Only PS4.... "

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    The article is a lie. The article was written on google translate and is not from AMD saying the ps4 is HUMA. Go to this link and scroll down to original source. The original source is from AMD rep talking DX11.2

    translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.heise.de%2Fnewsticker%2Fmeldung %2FGamescom-Playstation-4-bietet-Unified-Memory-Xbox-One-nicht-1939716.html

    Somebody try to to write the article and combine with not related kaveri (steamroller) article from Anantech 4 month ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sith View Post
    The article is a lie. The article was written on google translate and is not from AMD saying the ps4 is HUMA. Go to this link and scroll down to original source. The original source is from AMD rep talking DX11.2

    translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.heise.de%2Fnewsticker%2Fmeldung %2FGamescom-Playstation-4-bietet-Unified-Memory-Xbox-One-nicht-1939716.html

    Somebody try to to write the article and combine with not related kaveri (steamroller) article from Anantech 4 month ago
    Wrong. This was Mark Diana at Gamescom. I linked the original Heise.com article. Not a translation.
    Last edited by Lefein; 08-22-2013 at 02:54.

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    The new AMD Kaveri CPU Kaveri is Huma. the ps4 cpu is x86 based off the weaker non HSA AMD Kabini

    http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...apu-chip-video

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    The guy at gamescom lied his ass off.

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