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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefein View Post
    Well, you can't retract something you didn't say. So, we can start with that.
    I guess it all depends on what people choose to believe right now.

    EA Sports boss Andrew Wilson says that one reason none of its next-gen sports games are coming to PC is because Microsoft and Sony's new game consoles are actually more powerful than many PCs in a very specific, subtle way: "How the CPU, GPU, and RAM work together in concert," Wilson told Polygon.


    That might sound suspiciously vague, but we spoke to AMD and it's actually true. The AMD chips inside the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One take advantage of something called Heterogeneous Unified Memory Access (HUMA),

    which allows both the CPU and GPU to share the same memory pool instead of having to copy data from one before the other can use it. Diana likened it to driving to the corner store to pick up some milk, instead of driving from San Francisco to Los Angeles. It's one of AMD's proposed Heterogeneous System Architecture (HSA) techniques to make the many discrete processors in a system work in tandem to more efficiently share loads
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    I guess it all depends on what people choose to believe right now.
    The lady from Heise actually quoted Diana as making these claims, though. Your article does not. It's quite nebulous.

    The gag order also notes that there was mention of a performance gap, which makes the Heise article more accurate.
    Who would have thought building a solid product that serves your customer's needs would beat out money, marketing, hype, and greed.

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    Making it worse for MS is the well known fact that they are still quite a bit behind on their SDK APIs. It's like they are getting ground up to mince meat in every area. LoL, Sony couldn't even let them have the cloud, they're gonna have their Gaikai streaming and also Rackspace Openstack scalable compute clouds to go with it. No mercy from the jump in this nextgen console war. Sony's already trying to get the announcer to yell "Finish HIM!" before they actually step in the arena.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    I guess it all depends on what people choose to believe right now.
    Good find Substance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefein View Post
    The lady from Heise actually quoted Diana as making these claims, though. Your article does not. It's quite nebulous.

    The gag order also notes that there was mention of a performance gap, which makes the Heise article more accurate.

    If that's what you believe then so be it. The info is from the same person.

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    So let me get this straight, there wasn't a retraction but a comment stating AMD over stepped and no longer will be commenting on hardware specifics on each console? Looks to me the previous comments are in fact true and Microsoft stepped in legal wise. Anyway you slice it it looks bad for Microsoft cause if the Xbox one had this tech, they wouldn't deny it. Microsoft is delaying the inevitable, Sony has a better system all around this gen and no amount of hiding will help. The truth will come out in games.
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    Yup. That's how I feel about it, as well. If MS has it, they will certainly come out and say it now. If they don't, then they will stay in their hidey hole.
    Who would have thought building a solid product that serves your customer's needs would beat out money, marketing, hype, and greed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMG44 View Post
    So let me get this straight, there wasn't a retraction but a comment stating AMD over stepped and no longer will be commenting on hardware specifics on each console? Looks to me the previous comments are in fact true and Microsoft stepped in legal wise. Anyway you slice it it looks bad for Microsoft cause if the Xbox one had this tech, they wouldn't deny it. Microsoft is delaying the inevitable, Sony has a better system all around this gen and no amount of hiding will help. The truth will come out in games.
    No one knows for sure whether anyone stepped in. We can only speculate on that part . This could be one of those situations like MS having DX and sony having something similar with their own API. The person could be right saying that PS4 uses HUMA but it doesn't mean that xbox-one doesn't have a equivalent.

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    Wow, I didn't think that AMD could come out and tell the truth like they did. That would have cost MS billions and cost AMD MS as a customer.

    Someone goofed over there. I see MS moved quickly to get them to shut up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    No one knows for sure whether anyone stepped in. We can only speculate on that part . This could be one of those situations like MS having DX and sony having something similar with their own API. The person could be right saying that PS4 uses HUMA but it doesn't mean that xbox-one doesn't have a equivalent.

    Im not a tech head, but equivalent doesn't mean exact especially when it comes to hardware design. I could be wrong though and I'm sure someone here will let me know if so
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    Quote Originally Posted by AMG44 View Post
    Im not a tech head, but equivalent doesn't mean exact especially when it comes to hardware design. I could be wrong though and I'm sure someone here will let me know if so
    hUMA is in the hardware.
    Who would have thought building a solid product that serves your customer's needs would beat out money, marketing, hype, and greed.

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    Durr guys seriously?

    You seem to be completely ignoring...

    "AMD spokesperson made inaccurate statements regarding our semi-custom APU's"


    inaccurate statements


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    AMD retracts statement on ps4 huma architecture.
    http://www.psu.com/a020686/PS4-huMA-...S4-vs-Xbox-One

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    Sorry but does it matter?

    I just got off of youtube and im salivating at dc, infsmous, and bf4.

    this is for the developers to deal with. Were playing the games and the first batch look damn good. Its only going to get better.

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    Somebody is in trouble! The typical old no comment huh. Don't understand over half of this stuff so really don't care if its confirmed. If it happens, I say cool. If not, well damn.




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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Durr guys seriously?

    You seem to be completely ignoring...

    "AMD spokesperson made inaccurate statements regarding our semi-custom APU's
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    inaccurate statements


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    Yea, i caught that. That's why i was confused on the so called confirmation.

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    We should change the thread title to debunked? Lol




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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    We should change the thread title to debunked? Lol
    Definitely... it is nowhere near a confirmation of, or proof of anything.

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    In all honesty if it had HUMA, AMD would pay Sony to shout it form the tops of the roofs.
    At the very least Cerny would be shouting it himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Durr guys seriously?

    You seem to be completely ignoring...

    "AMD spokesperson made inaccurate statements regarding our semi-custom APU's"


    inaccurate statements


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    Do we know which statements they consider to be inaccurate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    In all honesty if it had HUMA, AMD would pay Sony to shout it form the tops of the roofs.
    At the very least Cerny would be shouting it himself.
    and microsoft would pay AMD to keep Sony quiet about it. Which seems more likely since Microsoft likes to throw money around to keep people quiet and what not

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToXiCNiGhTMaRe View Post
    and microsoft would pay AMD to keep Sony quiet about it. Which seems more likely since Microsoft likes to throw money around to keep people quiet and what not
    Both companies do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeisureSuitLarry View Post
    Do we know which statements they consider to be inaccurate?
    LOL, really?

    Who put "confirmed" on the thread title.?
    PMSL

    Quote Originally Posted by ToXiCNiGhTMaRe View Post
    and microsoft would pay AMD to keep Sony quiet about it. Which seems more likely since Microsoft likes to throw money around to keep people quiet and what not
    You cant pay AMD to tell Cerny to shut up.

    And seeing as Cerny has detailed the hell out of the bus's and modifications..

    <sighs> really guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    LOL, really?

    Who put "confirmed" on the thread title.?
    PMSL

    What are you talking about? I asked if we know which statements that were made by the AMD dude were considered "inaccurate". Nothing to do with the thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Durr guys seriously?

    You seem to be completely ignoring...

    "AMD spokesperson made inaccurate statements regarding our semi-custom APU's"


    inaccurate statements


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    Someone doesn't like being wrong?

    And that "Retraction" was quite vague.

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