Page 1 of 4 1 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 90
  1. #1
    Elite Sage
    Mael Duin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Age
    30
    Posts
    10,720
    Rep Power
    117

    All 81 features that are locked behind Gold Membership wall

    http://gaminrealm.com/2013/08/22/xbo...box-live-gold/

    After my original article regarding why Skype should be free on the Xbox One, I got to thinking about the other features. I wondered exactly how many features were locked behind Xbox Live Gold. After some research, I discovered that the Xbox360 & Xbox One collectively have 81 features that you will not be able to use without an Xbox Live Gold Subscription. Many of these features cost Microsoft NOTHING to operate, since many of them either run on the Xbox platform itself and/or the Xbox connects to a third party server and/or service. It doesn’t make sense why Microsoft insists to keep these features behind a pay wall. Online gaming for example, when you play Gears of War 3, your Xbox360 connects to EPIC’s servers (and through there it would connect to another Xbox360 hosting the match). Why are you paying Microsoft for that? Even with Microsoft’s own games, the Gold subscription doesn’t offer any kind of perks for online gaming. The only one being…that you’re actually allowed to game online. Did Microsoft invest any of that Gold Subscription money to dedicated servers on the Xbox360? Nope. How many Halo games on Xbox360 had dedicated servers? I think you see my point.

    And what about those other features, like Netflix, Amazon Instant video, and others that have nothing to do with Microsoft? Why should you have to pay Microsoft just so that your Xbox console can connect to Netflix’s servers? I just feel that Microsoft’s main goal with their platforms has shifted to selling Xbox Live GOLD features, rather than the consoles themselves. Just think, how much functionality would you get out of the Xbox360 without Gold? And on the Xbox One, it’s even worse! Without Gold on the Xbox One, you pretty much have a useless piece of hardware. Why should the platform be so RELIANT on a yearly subscription in order to keep some form of basic functionality? It’s simple, that’s how Microsoft intended it to be. The more features they throw behind Xbox Live Gold, the more insurance they have that people will pay it. Below you’ll see a list I’ve compiled of Xbox Live Gold features on Xbox360 and Xbox One:

    Online Multiplayer
    Party Chat
    Video Chat
    Matchmaking
    SkyDrive/ Unlimited Cloud Storage
    Skype
    SmartMatch (improved version of matchmaking)
    Game DVR – You have to pay Microsoft, so you can record footage of YOUR games & store it on the hard drive?
    One Guide
    Games With Gold – This is valid until Xbox One releases.
    Amazon.com Instant Video
    AOL On
    AT&T Uverse
    Avatar Kinect
    BLIP.TV
    C|Net
    CinemaNOW
    Comedy Central: Stand-Up
    Crackle
    Crunchyroll
    Dailymotion
    Disney
    EPIX
    ESPN
    Facebook
    Flixter
    Fox Broadcast
    Game Trailers
    Gamespot TV
    HBO GO
    Hulu Plus
    IGN
    iHeartRadio
    Internet Explorer
    Karaoke
    Last.fm
    Machinima
    Manga Entertainment
    MAXIM – GIGGIDY GIGGIDY GOO!
    MLB.tv
    MSN with MSNBC
    MTV
    Mustang Customizer
    Muzu.TV
    NBA Game Time
    NBC News
    Neon Alley
    NETFLIX
    NFL
    NHL Game Center
    Nick
    OneBeat
    Paramount Movies
    Pizza Hut – Yup, you need a Gold Subscription to order pizza. PREMIUM SERVICE.
    PopcornFlix
    Redbox Instant by Verizon
    Revision3
    Rhapsody
    SkyGO
    Slacker Radio
    SnagFilms
    Sony Pictures
    Sports Picks
    SyFy
    Telemundo
    TMZ
    Toys “R” Us
    Twitch.TV
    Twitter
    UFC On Xbox Live – You need a Gold subscription…to use ***Pay per View*** for UFC? You have to pay…to pay.
    Uvideos
    Verizon FIOS TV
    Vevo
    Vimeo
    Vudu
    WSJ Live
    WWE
    Xbox Music – Requires Xbox Music Pass, which is $100 A YEAR, but also requires GOLD to use on Xbox360? What?
    Xbox Tournaments
    Xfinity
    Youtube

    That’s quite a lot of features that you will have no access to, unless you pay for Xbox Live Gold. And lets not forget that the PS4 & other platforms have the very same features FOR FREE! I don’t think its fair for Microsoft to advertise Xbox One’s new features (Game DVR, Skype, and etc), as if they’re ready and waiting on the device; when in fact they’re Xbox Live GOLD features. That’s why we saw a ton of gaming websites express their disdain after finally discovering that the features everyone was talking about (Game DVR, Skype, OneGuide, etc), were actually behind Xbox Live Gold. The only impression I get from seeing such a huge list of paywall features, is that the Xbox platform was designed to sell a yearly subscription. For consumers, it doesn’t add value; but, from a business standpoint, it is GENIUS.
    Man who chase after bus get exhausted, man who run in front of bus get tired
    Man who masturbates in class has firm grip of subject at hand
    Woman who sink in man's arms soon have arms in man's sink

  2. #2
    Dedicated Member
    Gantz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    PSN ID
    TheSixPaths
    Posts
    1,165
    Rep Power
    63
    He couldve just said streaming services instead of naming them all one by one just to get up to 81

    Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2

    Y0ur L1vEs ARE NoW 0Ver Y0u ba5T4RD5..wH4t You D0 w1Th Y0uR nEw L1V3s iS foR mE +O d3C1D3...W3ll tH4Ts th3 th30rY 4nyWAys

  3. Likes darky89 likes this post
  4. #3
    Forum Sage
    Sub-stance1's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Posts
    9,750
    Rep Power
    83
    Items BarcelonaPS3 Slim360 Slim
    Not this again...lol The most important thing on that to me is multi-layer. If you think that's bad you don't wanna see what's locked behind the cable tv wall.

  5. #4
    Dedicated Member
    Demi_God's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Icy hot of the north
    PSN ID
    Kamikaze_Krunch
    Posts
    1,187
    Rep Power
    22
    Items User name style
    holy crap MS, don't bother throwing gamers a bone here and there. LOL youch.

  6. #5
    Community and Technical Manager
    Christopher's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Warner Robins, GA
    PSN ID
    Cand3Js
    Age
    44
    Posts
    9,864
    Rep Power
    124
    Items Death Note LAtlusVitaPS3 FatMetal Gear Solid 4Naughty Dog360 SlimGuerrilla GamesApple
    Pizza Hut...lol










  7. #6
    PSU Live Streamer
    YoungMullah88's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Charlotte
    PSN ID
    YoungMullah88
    Posts
    15,039
    Rep Power
    121
    Items User name style
    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    Not this again...lol The most important thing on that to me is multi-layer. If you think that's bad you don't wanna see what's locked behind the cable tv wall.
    Gaming box =/= cable box

    Sent from my SGH-T889 using Tapatalk

  8. #7
    Forum Sage
    Sub-stance1's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Posts
    9,750
    Rep Power
    83
    Items BarcelonaPS3 Slim360 Slim
    Quote Originally Posted by YoungMullah88 View Post
    Gaming box =/= cable box

    Sent from my SGH-T889 using Tapatalk
    Maybe yours but not mine...lol

  9. #8
    Forum Overseer
    F34R's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    South Carolina
    PSN ID
    F34RTEHR34PER
    Posts
    39,545
    Rep Power
    250
    Items BullySteamGran Turismo 5LiverpoolAppleJoker (limited ICON)Naughty DogMaster ChiefAssassins Creed EzioGears of WarHeavy RainDiablo III
    Goodness. It makes it sound a lot worse than it is.




  10. #9
    Forum Sage
    darky89's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    In the bushes.
    Age
    25
    Posts
    7,847
    Rep Power
    106
    Items FuturamaGoogle ChromeAmerican DadHalf-Life 2Battlefield 3User name style
    Quote Originally Posted by Gantz View Post
    He couldve just said streaming services instead of naming them all one by one just to get up to 81

    Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2
    Yeah, blatent tactic to get get a big number. Also, surely online multiplayer and smart match would fall under the same banner.

    And though having to pay to use the streaming features isn't grand, they are very well implemented with the 360 instead of (stuff like bbc iplayer and other tv channels' on demand) just a link to the website through the browser like on ps3. I really hope sony will do 'apps' like what the 360 has now for ps4.

    Don't Steal. Don't Molest Little Children. Don't Deal Drugs.

  11. #10
    Supreme Veteran
    keefy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    The Sock Gap
    Posts
    17,878
    Rep Power
    133
    Items Gran Turismo 5Michelle MarshDoomid SoftwareCommodore 64Metal Gear Solid
    Putting free things behind a pay wall is not going to make people pony up for a gold account just to use those things. Instead they will just continue to use them for free on their TV or media streamers and etc.

    Its a way of falsely giving extra value to a gold account.

    "Look what you get with gold status" <insert big list of 81 things>
    Last edited by keefy; 08-25-2013 at 00:23.

  12. Likes VayMasters86 likes this post
  13. #11
    Dedicated Member

    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Age
    30
    Posts
    1,037
    Rep Power
    60
    Quote Originally Posted by keefy View Post
    Putting free things behind a pay wall is not going to make people pony up for a gold account just to use those things. Instead they will just continue to use them for free on their TV or media streamers and etc.

    Its a way of falsely giving extra value to a gold account.

    "Look what you get with gold status" <insert big list of 81 things>
    Even worse it gives Sony an opportunity to take a shot at them (again) and say "Look at the features that we have that you don't have to pay to use on the PS4 that the 'other guy' wants to charge you for!"
    Quote Originally Posted by Sparc View Post
    For goodness sake I hope nobody thinks to start labelling the console an Xbrick,
    oops
    -Regarding the Xbone A.K.A. the Xbrick

    "Faith - that's another word for ignorance isn't it?" -House

  14. #12
    Forum Sage
    Sub-stance1's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Posts
    9,750
    Rep Power
    83
    Items BarcelonaPS3 Slim360 Slim
    Quote Originally Posted by VayMasters86 View Post
    Even worse it gives Sony an opportunity to take a shot at them (again) and say "Look at the features that we have that you don't have to pay to use on the PS4 that the 'other guy' wants to charge you for!"
    People are buying the console mostly for the games and paying gold for multi-player. It obviously isn't bothering members that much because gold subscriptions continue to increase.

  15. #13
    Dedicated Member

    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Age
    30
    Posts
    1,037
    Rep Power
    60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    People are buying the console mostly for the games and paying gold for multi-player. It obviously isn't bothering members that much because gold subscriptions continue to increase.
    I already know two people personally and one other person who has switched to PS4 since they don't play games online but want those features. Every little bit counts, you stick your nose out don't cry foul when your opponent takes a shot at it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sparc View Post
    For goodness sake I hope nobody thinks to start labelling the console an Xbrick,
    oops
    -Regarding the Xbone A.K.A. the Xbrick

    "Faith - that's another word for ignorance isn't it?" -House

  16. Likes Shingo likes this post
  17. #14
    Ultimate Veteran
    coolguy's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    long island ny
    Age
    39
    Posts
    20,886
    Rep Power
    118
    Very sad that MS that has to do this

  18. Likes VayMasters86 likes this post
  19. #15
    Ultimate Veteran
    coolguy's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    long island ny
    Age
    39
    Posts
    20,886
    Rep Power
    118
    Sorry double post stupid ipad4
    Last edited by coolguy; 08-26-2013 at 04:33.

  20. #16
    Forum Sage
    Sub-stance1's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Posts
    9,750
    Rep Power
    83
    Items BarcelonaPS3 Slim360 Slim
    Quote Originally Posted by VayMasters86 View Post
    I already know two people personally and one other person who has switched to PS4 since they don't play games online but want those features. Every little bit counts, you stick your nose out don't cry foul when your opponent takes a shot at it.
    yea, I know people like that too. It goes both ways though. I know some who have dropped both for PC gaming. The main reason people buy consoles are for the games, and services like xbox live. IF MS lose a large chunk of gamers it won't be because some things are behind a paywall.

  21. #17
    Soldier 95B
    Guest
    Funny thing is, Microsoft hasn't announced all gold features for Xbox One. We are still waiting to hear the details.

  22. #18
    Master Guru

    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Age
    27
    Posts
    6,959
    Rep Power
    95
    Won't stop me from going gold....
    Wii # 8752-0092-2306-9612
    PSN ID : pez555

  23. #19
    Veteran
    daLa's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Age
    25
    Posts
    4,753
    Rep Power
    81
    Quote Originally Posted by Gantz View Post
    He couldve just said streaming services instead of naming them all one by one just to get up to 81

    Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2
    True but still he makes a good point, MS throwing most features behind Gold paywall pretty much forces their users to purchase the subscription, Sony might be doing that now but at least they're not blocking every single feature.


  24. #20
    Forum Overseer
    F34R's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    South Carolina
    PSN ID
    F34RTEHR34PER
    Posts
    39,545
    Rep Power
    250
    Items BullySteamGran Turismo 5LiverpoolAppleJoker (limited ICON)Naughty DogMaster ChiefAssassins Creed EzioGears of WarHeavy RainDiablo III
    I won't use 75 of those features. lol




  25. #21
    Dedicated Member

    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Location
    Oklahoma
    PSN ID
    Foraeli
    Posts
    952
    Rep Power
    23
    By '81 features', you just mean '81 apps'. 'Features' is a misnomer here.

  26. #22
    Administrator and Visionary
    Ghost's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    PSN ID
    rokushakubo
    Posts
    13,416
    Rep Power
    141
    Sensational headline is sensational!

    But yeah, this is just another bone MS is tossing to Sony.

  27. #23
    Master Sage
    Justin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Canada
    Age
    30
    Posts
    14,976
    Rep Power
    131
    Items Tommy VercettiUser name styleModern Warfare 3
    I don't understand how they can sell on features which are found for FREE elsewhere. Once again 80 features I could care less about, all I want is the ability to play games online and offline.

    10 years and counting!

  28. #24
    Dedicated Member
    Gantz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    PSN ID
    TheSixPaths
    Posts
    1,165
    Rep Power
    63
    Quote Originally Posted by Justin View Post
    I don't understand how they can sell on features which are found for FREE elsewhere.
    The answer my dear friend is elementary. They simply put all those free things behind the gold wall to encourage you to buy it as much as possible.

    Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2

    Y0ur L1vEs ARE NoW 0Ver Y0u ba5T4RD5..wH4t You D0 w1Th Y0uR nEw L1V3s iS foR mE +O d3C1D3...W3ll tH4Ts th3 th30rY 4nyWAys

  29. #25
    Super Elite
    Shingo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    PSN ID
    Swordsman-45
    Posts
    2,304
    Rep Power
    42
    Items User name styleOne Piece
    Quote Originally Posted by Pez_555 View Post
    Won't stop me from going gold....
    sure it won't. Because it is forcing lol. Your xbo is 361 without gold, nothing more.
    (•_•)
    ( •_•)>⌐■-■
    (⌐■_■)



    MyAnimeList

    Stop preordering games! Stop buying day1 games! Stop being idiots!

  30. Likes VayMasters86 likes this post

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
vBCredits II Deluxe v2.1.0 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2010-2015 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.