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    Adrian C. (Former People Can Fly) Claims His Dev Friends Claim 50% XB1/PS4 Speed Diff

    Adrian Chmielarz was the former Creative Director at People Can Fly for Painkiller, Bulletstorm and Gears of War Judgment.



    Last edited by X2; 09-08-2013 at 00:49.
    "We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that (developers) want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so then the question is, what do you do for the rest of the nine-and-a-half years?"
    --Kaz Hirai, CEO, Sony Computer Entertainment

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    Huh? So is it that ps4 has a 50% more oomph than the xb1? Or what

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    This can't possibly be true....

    Or is it?
    Destiny is going to be EVERYTHING that EA and MS hoped titanfall would be

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    I imagine he talks to CD project Red, given where he lives.
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    Boom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistercrow View Post
    Boom.
    Indeed, first person I have heard actually come out and say it. Even if he is not directly involved.
    I guess we will see that 50% power in action soon enough.
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    I imagine he talks to CD project Red, given where he lives.
    Actually unreal engine 4 according to gaf

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    Bu bu but it has dedicated HARDWARE for $#@! sake! Once Again common sense prevails

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungMullah88 View Post
    Huh? So is it that ps4 has a 50% more oomph than the xb1? Or what

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    Oh yeah durr, of course, he will still be talking to Epic/PCF guys.
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    meh just show the games and let the consumers judge...if every dev goes for console parity then its pointless, the brave ones will max out what they have but i doubt many will follow suite...thats why first party games this generation will be my bread and butter (3rd party will come in the way of IGC via ps+)

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    I'm confused here. o.O

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian
    I think Adrian should jump into the conversation. He does it all the time in his blogs.

    Here I am. So...

    1. I am not doing a damage control, but I do want to clarify one thing. But first, yes, devs I know -- and as someone has shown it before in this thread, some other devs already talked about it too -- claim that there's 50% speed difference WHEN DEVELOPING in cross-gen/next-gen PS4/XO games. So there we are, I said it and I stand by it. Notice: WHEN DEVELOPING. It'll become clear in a second.

    2. Will this change in the future? WIll devs discover some tricks to narrow the gap? Will stuff like XO cloud computing help? Hell if I know. Uhm, maybe? I know that devs -- well, most of them -- will do whatever they can do get you the best games possible. You're going to see a lot of multiplatform games this next gen, just as you've seen them in this gen, so it's in studios' best interest that there's no clear advantage in one version over the other.

    3. Does it mean studios will cripple PS4 versions to match XO ones? Not really, do not underestimate the devs. Even if this happens, you will not know that and that's okay. You've never seen most games in their most powerful form anyway (when we work on them on our ninja dev PCs in 1080p 120fps with all the antialiasings and stuff turned on for $#@!s and giggles). But most of the time devs have a target and they meet this target. If it's a multiplatform game, it's designed with this in mind from the start. So maybe it's not maxing out one console while going 100% on the other. Maybe it's 100% on both, but they take extra time for super-extra optimizations on the weaker hardware to make sure things look the same as on the more powerful platform. Etc. etc.

    4. So what is that "one thing" I want to clarify, that some people may consider "damage control", but really is just an explanation. Someone mentioned Titanfall, which looks money and enjoys a great hype. Exactly. A great dev will make a great game no matter what's the hardware. Current gen CoDs looks great and it's 60 fps, on both platforms (well, and PC . To most devs that is just impossible to achieve. And yet...

    Think about it this way. X360 is faster than PS3. Not just easier to program on, it's faster overall (although PS is faster/better in SOME areas). And yet no exclusive on X360 looks like The Last of Us. Halo 4 looks great. Gears blew my mind in 2006. And still, the best looking AAA game of this generation belongs to the supposedly weaker platform.

    So if you think that the war is over because PS4 is 50% faster TODAY, then you're delusional. This is far from over, and will probably never be over, at least not this upcoming gen.
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    Seems that he also confirmed that the ps3 was weaker than the 360.
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    Destiny is going to be EVERYTHING that EA and MS hoped titanfall would be

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    That from gaf I assume.

    Lol, looks at url. Yes it is.

    Thanks for the info Two.
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    I'm not surprised at all. I've known all along that PS4 is way more powerful than X1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungMullah88 View Post
    Huh? So is it that ps4 has a 50% more oomph than the xb1? Or what
    yup. PS4 is 50% faster according to developers.

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    so once again its not a he say she say, this is from an actual dev...historians take note

    edit: lol exactly what i said, the quote from Two! and the point he made in the last paragraph, that edge still goes to sony because naughty dog will still be naughty gods! man i cant wait to see there game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    source

    Seems that he also confirmed that the ps3 was weaker than the 360.
    If that is the case then ps4 exclusives should look ridiculously good. In the end all this power talk won't matter when it comes to first party devs. Especially sony's.

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    What does this mean in DBZ levels?













    #IndieStation4 and proud of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoopIsTheBest View Post
    If that is the case then ps4 exclusives should look ridiculously good. In the end all this power talk won't matter when it comes to first party devs. Especially sony's.
    bingo

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Indeed, first person I have heard actually come out and say it. Even if he is not directly involved.
    I guess we will see that 50% power in action soon enough.
    Even if its true its like u said, its about the games, and I agree.

    It didnt bother me last gen when 360 multiplats looked better.

    Currently im having a blast playing saints row 3 and its not extremely good graphically.

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    What this means to me (who i admit am just a laymen)...that PS4 multiplat versions shouldn't be inferior to the X1. They may even have a smoother framerate or so slight improvements. However.....first party games....we are going to be WOWed. Sony exclusives will set apart the consoles. I honestly think multimedia wise the X1 will do more and may have more features (even if they just buy them like the NFL) but for those that want the best GAMING experience....it will be PS4 as the console of choice. No matter what MS does to boost their console...they may even get close...they aren't overtaking the power difference....and if the best they can do is just get close....and it costs $100 more....well that doesn't speak well....the PS3 at least had features like blu-ray to justify the difference but X1 has what???? tv?

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    PS4 will have better multiplats and exclusives

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