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    Alby Penello: no dual APU or secret second GPU in Xb.one

    no dual APU or second GPU in xB.one

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    Lets hope Sheldon can now finally get some closure and much needed sleep.

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    This was obvious to say the least. Glad he has come out with it. Should shut up some rumors at least.

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    I don't get why people are holding on to these crazy ideas. Well I do but I can't say.
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    Well so much for that. We can put that rumor to rest now.

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    Hopefully this, and the other thread started by X2 from the Fly dev, will stop alot of the lunacy going about the internet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgotha View Post


    Hopefully this, and the other thread started by X2 from the Fly dev, will stop alot of the lunacy going about the internet.
    I doubt it

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    It's a bit ridiculous that this got enough attention to even be addressed. If the XB1 had something like this packed in we'd have known about it by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapture View Post
    It's a bit ridiculous that this got enough attention to even be addressed. If the XB1 had something like this packed in we'd have known about it by now.
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    Lol at Sheldon, reminds me of a few people lmao

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    Glad that ridiculous rumor was put to rest. That one was like a pre reveal type rumor.




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    About time they slayed this.

    As I have said, it's plenty capable already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    About time they slayed this.

    As I have said, it's plenty capable already.

    If they weren't going to say anything in the next 10 days then i was going to assume that the rumor was true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sith View Post
    If they weren't going to say anything in the next 10 days then i was going to assume that the rumor was true.
    Honestly if they had this going on, I'm sure MS would have let it out the bag. That would be a massive sway. Could cause people to cancel PS4 preorders for X1.




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    I bet that no one will be able to see a big difference on multiplatform games anyway. No better graphics, no FPS increases, ect. Developers are having a hard enough time to get 1080p at 30 FPS let alone 60. Some will have 720p at 60 FPS. I prefer a solid 30 either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldierboy View Post
    I bet that no one will be able to see a big difference on multiplatform games anyway. No better graphics, no FPS increases, ect. Developers are having a hard enough time to get 1080p at 30 FPS let alone 60. Some will have 720p at 60 FPS. I prefer a solid 30 either way.
    you will likely see PS4 run higher Framerates (for those who care, 30fps is fine by me) attributing to its stronger GPU, or you'll see the PS4 run particle simulations that would be absent on other consoles....the latter comes down to Dev implementation, but given PhysX is simply flags on objects, i'd say it is highly likely to be possible on the PS4. Deep down from Capcom already shows signs of this. As done Warframe (though not to the extent shown in Deep Down)

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sith View Post
    If they weren't going to say anything in the next 10 days then i was going to assume that the rumor was true.
    Thats not to say that there is not stuff they are hiding, probably not the right word...As has been pointed out from multiple sources the specialised chips have not been all revealed or gone in to depth. Especially the processors to help out physics. I want to know more about that because if thats powerful, then you don't need the gpu to help.

    But second gpu? Nah that went out the window as far as I was concerned when we could solidify that vgleaks were legit leaks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Thats not to say that there is not stuff they are hiding, probably not the right word...As has been pointed out from multiple sources the specialised chips have not been all revealed or gone in to depth. Especially the processors to help out physics. I want to know more about that because if thats powerful, then you don't need the gpu to help.

    But second gpu? Nah that went out the window as far as I was concerned when we could solidify that vgleaks were legit leaks.
    Yeah I think could wind up being a few small surprises from both but nothing huge. I think all the big stuff is already in the open.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ps3freak18 View Post
    Yeah I could there will being a few small surprises from both but nothing huge. I think all the big stuff is already in the open.
    Agreed. I seriously doubt there are going to be any sudden important game changer type revelations at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ps3freak18 View Post
    Yeah I think could wind up being a few small surprises from both but nothing huge. I think all the big stuff is already in the open.
    Yeah, your not getting magical rendering boosts from a sudden doubling of power or anything, we are talking small percentages here and there, but they all add up to help out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fijiandoce View Post
    you will likely see PS4 run higher Framerates (for those who care, 30fps is fine by me) attributing to its stronger GPU, or you'll see the PS4 run particle simulations that would be absent on other consoles....the latter comes down to Dev implementation, but given PhysX is simply flags on objects, i'd say it is highly likely to be possible on the PS4. Deep down from Capcom already shows signs of this. As done Warframe (though not to the extent shown in Deep Down)

    The Braid dev reckons we'l see games at 30fps on Xbone and the same game 60fps on PS4. I just dont see it. I think it will be like this gen where 1 will be slightly better than the other. Maybe this time round though PS will have the advantage in the number of games like the 360 has this gen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UkHardcore View Post
    The Braid dev reckons we'l see games at 30fps on Xbone and the same game 60fps on PS4. I just dont see it. I think it will be like this gen where 1 will be slightly better than the other. Maybe this time round though PS will have the advantage in the number of games like the 360 has this gen.
    well technically, this gen has seen the PS3 struggle to maintain 720p30 whereas the 360 has managed it in its stride - regarding multiplats of course.
    i figure it will be much of the same except the PS4 will maintain the target FPS and the XB1 will be doing a variable dance between 30-60.
    i say i figure, mynd will probably need to chime in, but the fast RAM in the XB1 would primarily used for post processing rather than determining the resolution?? so the XB1 could also have variable screen res's in the same vein as the PS3....but as people keep saying, its not that big a deal when both figures are so high to begin with. its not as if they're scraping by with what's just about acceptable (720p30fps) like this gen.

    we'll all have to wait until multiplats start coming out though, as it stands, both companies are eager to show off their exclusives which offer little value for comparison.

    but as i've said elsewhere. Physx High, Game detail low, trumps No PhysX, Game detail High. Hopefully devs use the compute units in the PS4 for something other than slightly higher texture res...
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    Though Alby PRenello ends his tweet with MS trademarked FUD. I am glad that they are at least debunking the ridiculousness that would no doubt mislead their own customers. Some honesty is better than their previous barefaced LIES.

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    IS PhysX even available on a PS4 or Xbone? Considering they both use AMD hardware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by victorijapoosp View Post
    Though Alby PRenello ends his tweet with MS trademarked FUD. I am glad that they are at least debunking the ridiculousness that would no doubt mislead their own customers. Some honesty is better than their previous barefaced LIES.

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    http://majornelson.com/2005/05/20/xb...3-part-1-of-4/
    While the bandwidth question was always marketing spin, the rest of it was true. The GPU is more powerful in the 360 than the PS3, and the system did have 3 times the general purpose power.
    Now did you need 3 times the General purpose CPU programming for games though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by keefy View Post
    IS PhysX even available on a PS4 or Xbone? Considering they both use AMD hardware.
    Nvidia licensed the tech for use int he PS4 and X1 I believe. It is is possible to run PhysX on a CPU I think, or it is actually compatible with the GPUs. I'm actually hoping that OpenCL becomes more the norm for physics based effects, hardware neutral that way.


    Edit: would be awfully nice if that major nelson link still had the images working :P
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