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    Which Quiet do you prefer? Clothes on or clothes off for the MGS 5 star?

    Following the controversy surrounding Kojima's Metal Gear Solid 5 character Quiet. which out of these two models would you prefer to see in the game.



    Also...do you think Kojima was wrong to ask his designers to create an 'erotic' character? Do you think it's degrading to women?

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    Kojima said there is reasoning for it and lots of rumours flying around as to what it could be.


    Honestly I don't give a crap. So what if there is erotic character design. This CERTAINLY isn't the first time we've seen anything like this from the MGS franchise. I find it amusing how this is getting the most media attention yet there are child solders in the game

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    I worry she will catch her death of cold and is only going to have a lot of health problems when she is older.


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    Degrading to women? Who cares? It's Kojima's work, don't like it? Don't buy it! Don't get on the high and mighty chivalry horse and then act like a hypocrite by buying the game. I honestly hate it when "fans", "journalists" and "activists" think they should have any say on how an artist's vision should be presented or how it should be perceived. I'm glad Kojima went with the bra and fishnets, since A) It's getting more people talking about the game than even the unveiling of MGS V, B) I see nothing wrong with having an - to use Kojima's words - 'erotic' character in MGS. I don't remember anyone making a fuss about Raiden in MGR Revengeance, you can see his cyborg ass hanging out for crying out loud, and that's when we ignore the codpiece.

    The funny double standard is that half-naked male characters with perfect physique are perfectly acceptable, heck people make fun of characters that don't look anything but perfect, anyone remember all the fat jokes about Bob (from tekken 6), or about Max payne looking like a grand dad in Max Payne 3? No one stood up for that discrimination. But when a creator specifically mentions that he made a female character erotic, all hell broke loose. I personally think that all of these people crying foul about Quiet's attire will be eating large servings of humble pie same as all the people who got their internet rage on over the "alleged" rape scene in Tomb Raider.

    Honestly the industry as it stands with its idiotic 343 employees, and angry fan/activist/been-to-a-forum-so-I'm-a-part-of-it mobs should just grow the $#@! up.

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    It doesnt matter, shes not nude. No one says anything about kratos or other male vg characyers with little to no clothes.

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    Why is this particular scantily-clad female in a videogame an issue? Just because a HALO developer hypocritically chastised Kojima for exploitation while forgetting about his own game's Cortana, a naked hologram? Fanboy-fuel. If you want to complain about exploitation, start with Dead Or Alive.


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    I prefer to game and not think sex or sexy... Since i am a gamer and we think in the opinion form only LMAO


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    I voted clothes off for obvious reasons. lol
    But lets get serious. Who can go to battle with the gear cutting into the skin? I find the idea ridiculous.
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    Fishnet ftw.

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    So God of War was degrading of men because he was so muscular?

    I love this.

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    I personally prefer the soldier version.







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    Quote Originally Posted by Fon View Post
    I personally prefer the soldier version.
    That would make more sense. She looks like a $#@! from old town in sin city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gantz View Post
    That would make more sense. She looks like a $#@! from old town in sin city.

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    I just like the soldier design better. Honestly this is the first time I heard that her original design became a controversy. There are more questionable parts of the game than her clothing design (Like children with AK's; Naked Snake (Shooting?) prisoners that look young).

    In the end, how they choose to dress her is fine by me.







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    The one that looks like a soldier. Why? not because the other one degrades one, there's plenty of video games with worst women characterization and no one says anything about it. My reason is because MGS used to be a serious game, it seems to me now that Kojima sees his franchise as a joke now, cause seriously why on earth would a soldier girl like her would be out there doing that stuff almost naked? It doesn't make a bit of sense.


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    The "off" version is post torture. Look at the nylons. They melted under the shock torture. Someone at Kojima's studio (may have been Kojima himself) also said she was the HERO of the story. We know we play as the villain, so this is where Big Boss becomes the kind of Villain we saw in MG1 and MG2. The kind of guy who would use Child soldiers to get his way, who would torture and do all sorts of evil to get to the people who screwed him over.

    Also, Metal Gear has always been serious?

    Um...


    If anything, I think MGS5 is taking a TOO serious direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobtheduck View Post
    The "off" version is post torture. Look at the nylons. They melted under the shock torture. Someone at Kojima's studio (may have been Kojima himself) also said she was the HERO of the story. We know we play as the villain, so this is where Big Boss becomes the kind of Villain we saw in MG1 and MG2. The kind of guy who would use Child soldiers to get his way, who would torture and do all sorts of evil to get to the people who screwed him over.

    Also, Metal Gear has always been serious?

    Um...


    If anything, I think MGS5 is taking a TOO serious direction.
    I thought the same first cause yeah there's always females in the games showing a little cleavage and all those funny references you just quoted on pictures but I mean that Quiet character clothing it's just too unrelated imo, sure Fortune was wearing a one suit but at least it looks like it's made out of Kevlar or something lol.


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    Quote Originally Posted by daLa View Post
    I thought the same first cause yeah there's always females in the games showing a little cleavage and all those funny references you just quoted on pictures but I mean that Quiet character clothing it's just too unrelated imo, sure Fortune was wearing a one suit but at least it looks like it's made out of Kevlar or something lol.
    Looks like a Bathing suit to me. In fact, it could be argued Fortune is dressed that way because she believes she can't be killed. Sniper Wolf and Eva dressed that way to seduce their respective leads (though admittedly, Sniper Wolf covers up once she get in the snow... No frostbitten breasts for her). Big Mama (yeah, that's Eva, but...) I don't get. There's really not reason to do that, except to have old lady cleavage. And the Boss? I get why she initially opened her shirt (to show the scar) but then fighting like that? Considering she's a sort of mother figure to Naked Snake, that's kind of beyond weird.

    The other pics offer a response to ANYONE who accused Metal Gear of being serious.
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    The original way it was intended. Kojima does this all the time. Nothing new. Don't know why it's all the sudden a controversy.




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    Quote Originally Posted by ps3freak18 View Post
    The original way it was intended. Kojima does this all the time. Nothing new. Don't know why it's all the sudden a controversy.
    Anita whatshername.That's why. People are paying attention to this stuff more because of her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merchant View Post
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    UGH....

    AAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH....!

    Anyway, don't care.

    Kojima has become a parody of himself. He does nothing but MGS despite his pleas of wanting to do something different, but seems to be
    too much of a downright scared $#@! to go against the fans' wishes and still makes games in a series he wants to escape.

    So he takes to making joke characters and treating the franchise without a care for sanity and clarity.

    I hope MGS5 fails. I know that's not going to help the chances of a Zone of the Enders 3, but at this point I've accepted that nothing will save
    that franchise. I just want MGS to collapse on itself, the same way I've come to feel about Square-Enix as a whole.

    Anway the original character itself looks like ass. I don't even care about over-sexualization. She just looks downright dumb. Like they didn't try the least beat in her concept. It's like they just went "LOL BOOBS THONGS BELT" Just downright lazy. I'm not going to remember this design months from now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedOrb_Collector View Post
    UGH....

    AAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH....!

    Anyway, don't care.

    Kojima has become a parody of himself. He does nothing but MGS despite his pleas of wanting to do something different, but seems to be
    too much of a downright scared $#@! to go against the fans' wishes and still makes games in a series he wants to escape.

    So he takes to making joke characters and treating the franchise without a care for sanity and clarity.

    I hope MGS5 fails. I know that's not going to help the chances of a Zone of the Enders 3, but at this point I've accepted that nothing will save
    that franchise. I just want MGS to collapse on itself, the same way I've come to feel about Square-Enix as a whole.

    Anway the original character itself looks like ass. I don't even care about over-sexualization. She just looks downright dumb. Like they didn't try the least beat in her concept. It's like they just went "LOL BOOBS THONGS BELT" Just downright lazy. I'm not going to remember this design months from now.
    ... Wow.



    Quote from Kojima:

    “It seems that people are apprehensive about Quiet, but it’s all right. She is the antithesis to the overexposure of female characters in fighting games of the past. Just like in those cases, she has no words, and is mocked from all sides in this story. However, when you’ll know the secret behind that exposure, you’ll be ashamed of that behavior.”

    “The themes of Metal Gear Solid V are “GENE” ⇒ “MEME” ⇒ “SCENE” ⇒ “PEACE” ⇒ “RACE”. It touches misunderstandings that happen due to the differences in ethnicity, language, traditions, culture, taste and due to discrimination, hatred and conflict. The reaction to Quiet that was instigated on the net is partly due to that, and it’s exactly what Metal Gear Solid V is about.”

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    don't really care tbh. she could be butt naked if the story required it.

    it depends on the context Kojima provides for her....for instance, i really can't see her being a preacher, and if she is, the character will be ridiculed. the dress must match the role, for want of a better word.

    Raiden already got much worse, yet kojima created a situation for him to be naked...no doubt the same will apply here.

    having said that, sexy is sexy....Fishnets and Bra it is
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    Is it a really big deal how she looks, its just digital

    Are you going to get of on a digital character
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