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    Developer complaints confirm the unfinished state of the Xbox One


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    Nothing new in that article. We have a handful of threads that has all this in it already.




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    " Even though there are boxes of them*ready to be shipped*out to retailers all over the world, it is becoming painfully clear that Microsoft’s Xbox One console is not yet fully baked.Right now is crunch time for developers. The heat is on to get their launch day games polished and ready to go alongside the*PS4*and the*Xbox One. This is also the time where Microsoft and Sony are putting the final touches on things like drivers for their hardware.In a perfect world, everything would come together at the end and the consoles would launch to smiling crowds everywhere. Unfortunately, unless Microsoft can get it in gear, it is going to be obvious to early adopters that Sony was far better prepared for launch than*Microsoft.It’s not news that Sony is going to beat Microsoft this go around when it comes to raw hardware. In a race of pure specs, Sony is going to walk away the winner. Plus, unlike the last generation, there’s no learning curve for developers to take advantage of that hardware because it’s x86.When asking developers what their experiences have been so far with software, the commentary shifted dramatically in Sony’s favor. While neither console is ready with perfectly tweaked drivers for their hardware, Microsoft has been lagging behind Sony with updates such that the*experience between the two devices*is now absolutely noticeable for developers. One in particular described them as horrible, while another explained that a platform-agnostic development build would run at 30fps in 1920 x 1080 on the PS4, but “20-something” FPS in 1600 x 900 on the Xbox One. That’s significant.Coupled with the repeated reports of Microsoft still not showing off launch games on their own console, and instead using PCs that grossly outperform the console those games are expected to run on, it’s becoming increasingly clear that Xbox One users will see updates after launch to finish bringing the console up to where it belongs"

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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    Nothing new in that article. We have a handful of threads that has all this in it already.
    They know that F34R.......ohhhh do they know.

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    I just hope for my fellow gamers with Rose tinted glasses that the build quality isn't under par, Console warriors aside.
    No one wishes a dud console on anyone, its not nice to pay out that kind of money for a badly built machine because the maker's rush things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TGO View Post
    I just hope for my fellow gamers with Rose tinted glasses that the build quality isn't under par, Console warriors aside.
    No one wishes a dud console on anyone, its not nice to pay out that kind of money for a badly built machine because the maker's rush things.

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    Nothing an RROD type free replacement, 3 year extended warranty and console redesign wouldn't fix. As long as they make it up to us like that, I'm cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatSpaceKoaster View Post
    Nothing an RROD type free replacement, 3 year extended warranty and console redesign wouldn't fix. As long as they make it up to us like that, I'm cool.
    One would hope they had learnt their lesson. While they did acknowledge the RROD and put all those extra warranties in place, it would be safe to say MS would not want to go through that again...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TGO View Post
    I just hope for my fellow gamers with Rose tinted glasses that the build quality isn't under par, Console warriors aside.
    No one wishes a dud console on anyone, its not nice to pay out that kind of money for a badly built machine because the maker's rush things.

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    Its the API/Frimware that they are still working on.

    Lets not forget they said this thing will require a day one patch, because well...shit they are making them now and the firmware clearly still has some way to go (although Penello said they are making "great strides" -frankly you'd hope so).
    I don't think you have to worry about the hardware, MS are at pains to explain this beast would rather shut down it's cores than overheat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sajuuk Khar View Post
    One would hope they had learnt their lesson. While they did acknowledge the RROD and put all those extra warranties in place, it would be safe to say MS would not want to go through that again...
    I agree. But if something does go wrong, I have confidence we will be taken care of. Sony did the same thing when they hooked up PSN members after it went down for all that time from the hack.

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    What Developers? Its a bunch of lies and made up stuff. The developers are under strict NDA and can't talk about the x1 games, hardware or devkits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sith View Post
    What Developers? Its a bunch of lies and made up stuff. The developers are under strict NDA and can't talk about the x1 games, hardware or devkits.
    So im guessing you work for Sony and broke NDA on their lack of R&D and all... Gotcha!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sith View Post
    What Developers? Its a bunch of lies and made up stuff. The developers are under strict NDA and can't talk about the x1 games, hardware or devkits.
    Lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sith View Post
    What Developers? Its a bunch of lies and made up stuff. The developers are under strict NDA and can't talk about the x1 games, hardware or devkits.
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sith View Post
    What Developers? Its a bunch of lies and made up stuff. The developers are under strict NDA and can't talk about the x1 games, hardware or devkits.
    Funny because you and others keep posting articles where devs talk about xbone. Oh wait those are positive and exception to rule lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sith View Post
    What Developers? Its a bunch of lies and made up stuff. The developers are under strict NDA and can't talk about the x1 games, hardware or devkits.
    That is funny considering we got loads of threads with interviews from developers talking about the xbone hardware, games, devkits. Don't tell me Albert Penello is a troll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insanehead View Post
    That is funny considering we got loads of threads with interviews from developers talking about the xbone hardware, games, devkits. Don't tell me Albert Penello is a troll.
    Ryse polycounts and development prowess LIES confirmed by The Sith!!!

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    The comments below the article are funny. Of course it's not done, they have to re-write the entire OS after all the 180's. Think about it, all these features were built for Xbox One "from the ground up". That means they had to burn down the house (so to speak) and build a new OS "from the ground up".
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sith View Post
    What Developers? Its a bunch of lies and made up stuff. The developers are under strict NDA and can't talk about the x1 games, hardware or devkits.
    Smh....come on man, where's there's smoke there's fire. Don't be so naive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Typical guy View Post
    The comments below the article are funny. Of course it's not done, they have to re-write the entire OS after all the 180's. Think about it, all these features were built for Xbox One "from the ground up". That means they had to burn down the house (so to speak) and build a new OS "from the ground up".

    not really about the OS but the drivers

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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    Nothing new in that article. We have a handful of threads that has all this in it already.

    exactly.. all this is is some sort of internet "journalist" trying to come off informed by collectively summating "dev" rumors, passing them as fact, and posting it like he has accurate inside info.

    I am not saying some of the "devs" said some of these things, but this article is nothing more than a literal gathering of the latest rumors into one article and like F34R said, we have discussions all over already.

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    These are the kind of articles that generate hits. I commend psu for not acting this way.

    Nothing wrong with writing it as long as u have real sources to back it up.

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    i really wanted to be excited for the XB1. I was a launch day Xbox (the real xbox 1) buyer. I loved that system. It fell out of a 2 story window into my back yard and still worked flawlessly for many years. I bought a 360 at launch. It RR'd on me 2 months later. I had it replaced. The replacement RR'd about 3 weeks later. I had it replaced again. That one lasted for about 3 months. RR'd.

    I bought a PS3 because i got so damn frustrated by my system being plagued by red rings. It worked masterfully for about 4 years, then my blu ray drive failed. Sent it in, got it back within a week.

    After everything ive heard about MS trying to be dicks with DRM, turning around on that stand, yield issues, the existence of Windows 8 (it doesnt fucking work), and a really shitty name for its newest console to boot, unless they announce i can get this console just by signing up for a new version of XBL, like, XBL Platinum for 100 bucks a year and they give me the console without the stupid kinect that nobody honestly gives a shit about, (nobody gives a shit about move either) i just dont have any confidence in microsoft at this point.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mistercrow View Post
    http://www.geek.com/games/developer-...x-one-1570747/

    Even though there are boxes of them ready to be shipped out to retailers all over the world, it is becoming painfully clear that Microsoft’s Xbox One console is not yet fully baked.

    Right now is crunch time for developers. The heat is on to get their launch day games polished and ready to go alongside the PS4 and the Xbox One. This is also the time where Microsoft and Sony are putting the final touches on things like drivers for their hardware.

    In a perfect world, everything would come together at the end and the consoles would launch to smiling crowds everywhere. Unfortunately, unless Microsoft can get it in gear, it is going to be obvious to early adopters that Sony was far better prepared for launch than Microsoft.

    It’s not news that Sony is going to beat Microsoft this go around when it comes to raw hardware. In a race of pure specs, Sony is going to walk away the winner. Plus, unlike the last generation, there’s no learning curve for developers to take advantage of that hardware because it’s x86.

    When asking developers what their experiences have been so far with software, the commentary shifted dramatically in Sony’s favor. While neither console is ready with perfectly tweaked drivers for their hardware, Microsoft has been lagging behind Sony with updates such that the experience between the two devices is now absolutely noticeable for developers. One in particular described them as horrible, while another explained that a platform-agnostic development build would run at 30fps in 1920 x 1080 on the PS4, but “20-something” FPS in 1600 x 900 on the Xbox One. That’s significant.

    Coupled with the repeated reports of Microsoft still not showing off launch games on their own console, and instead using PCs that grossly outperform the console those games are expected to run on, it’s becoming increasingly clear that Xbox One users will see updates after launch to finish bringing the console up to where it belongs.
    The PS4 can't get here soon enough. We are going to be loaded to the teeth with video games. This is a good time to be a PS4 gamer.

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