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    Quote Originally Posted by keefy View Post
    These 2 games use idtech engine source code that was released by id software so They are not allowed to charge money for the games because its open source and comes under the GPL
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    I'm not saying there aren't free games out there but they make their money some way or another. whether it's advertisement or buying other products from them. they're not a gamer charity. it's like the phrase: there are no free lunches.

    also notice these games look very low production. you can't have a high production game like we are seeing for next-gen even begin to think of a model such as this.

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    people are freaking out about this but I don't see why. There are plenty of F2P games that are really good. Save your judgements until the game actually comes out, then we'll find out if it's crap or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    I'm not saying there aren't free games out there but they make their money some way or another. whether it's advertisement or buying other products from them. they're not a gamer charity. it's like the phrase: there are no free lunches.

    also notice these games look very low production. you can't have a high production game like we are seeing for next-gen even begin to think of a model such as this.
    Free is free. To play it you do not have to pay a penny ever. They use engines that are 15+ years old its never going to be on par with crytek 3 or killzone engine. But COD?
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    Quote Originally Posted by keefy View Post
    Like I said this type of free game will mostly only live on the PC. They are funded by the fans giving donations and hosting servers themselves.
    Thank you for answering my question lol. It's not free. It's only free as long as someone is paying for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by keefy View Post
    Free is free. To play it you do not have to pay a penny ever. They use engines that are 15+ years old its never going to be on par with crytek 3 or killzone engine. But COD?
    yea but if no one ever pays a penny, it's gone.

    and you're also describing more issues with this model...who wants to play a 15+ year old game? I don't.

    certainly has no relevance to next-gen either.

    yes, this wouldn't work on consoles because consoles are disconnected from one another.

    and they don't have the infrastructure to do this yet.

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    ITs not the games that are 15+ years old but the base engine. The games are newer than COD.
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    Deep Down has gone from a day 1 full price purchase to a "I doubt I'll ever touch it".. Sorry Capcom. f2p sucks and every f2p experience is gimped. This will be no different. I dislike the business model and won't support it

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    It may be gimped if it's only a f2p and not a proper 60 Buck game.graphically it still looked very good.

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    I'll stick to a next-gen sequel to Demon's Souls.

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    I don't get how people go from Hype to not touching it when its f2p? Its free so there is nothing to lose!

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    Quote Originally Posted by roy8846 View Post
    I don't get how people go from Hype to not touching it when its f2p? Its free so there is nothing to lose!

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    I don't get the hate on F2P just like I don't get the hate on DLC. Day 1 DLC sure. I hate day 1 dlc too. I guess most people hate F2P because most are P2W. What people don't understand that it doesn't matter if you bought the best, you can still get pwnd.

    Majority of F2P games are bad and some even go overboard with money microtransaction, however there are some F2P games that are good. Not all F2P games are bad, not all F2P games go overboard with money microtranscation. So it's silly people will pass this game up because it's now a F2P game. It could be a really good game that saves you $60.
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    I would say it's great but being Capcom, they'll still probably force us to buy stuff in order to progress.


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    Quote Originally Posted by daLa View Post
    I would say it's great but being Capcom, they'll still probably force us to buy stuff in order to progress.
    Sony helping with this game might mean good news though?

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    Guild Wars 1 had a perfect model. Buy the game once, no subscription, if you want to buy anything in the shop it's just stupid cosmetic $#@! like 'armor' that goes over your actual armor and has no statistic value, or skins for weapons that were of equal value to weapons earned in the actual game.

    I don't know if Guild Wars 2 followed suit store-wise (game-wise it's $#@!), but the first Guild Wars was a shining example of how a proper F2P game would work.

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    Had a funny feeling this would be a free game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roy8846 View Post
    I don't get how people go from Hype to not touching it when its f2p? Its free so there is nothing to lose!

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    Except for the quality of the product

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkVincent07 View Post
    Except for the quality of the product
    But it costs nothing so you can see for yourself and try it.

    If you dont like it move on and its cost you NOTHING

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    thats pre rendered from the initial trailer and really doesn't represent the recent gameplay videos

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkVincent07 View Post
    thats pre rendered from the initial trailer and really doesn't represent the recent ALPHA gameplay videos
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    is it pre-rendered though? it's not running real-time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkVincent07 View Post
    Except for the quality of the product
    Can you really make this statement without seeing a finished product?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyRules View Post
    Can you really make this statement without seeing a finished product?
    sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    sometimes.
    Idk, this game is in pretty early stages

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    well for this game, i'd give it benefit of the doubt because i know capcom is a good developer and this looks high-production value. also like i mentioned earlier, the poking is likely a weak weapon and/or the enemies might just be dumb.

    it looks almost exactly like demon souls and for this reason, it might just be a really good game. so yes, i can't say for sure that the gameplay sucks...if someone was implying that.

    it's an RPG, it's not going to play like God of War.

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    Where the games look cool so far and really waaay too early to judge it as a final product, the concept of F2P has been horribly done on most games of its type. As someone else said, Guild Wars 1 was a perfect way to do it, another example is Team Fortress 2.

    The reason I really couldn't get into Planetside 2 was the ridiculous long grind to unlock different weapons in the game. The experience just felt shallow and void of any real fun because the whole time I felt like I was playing with a starter pack or something.

    I'm still really excited to see what Deep Down has in store, but F2P is really restrict a bunch of content and try to fool you into spending waaay more money on tiny decisions. If every action, respawn, etc starts getting microtransactions, then I don't wanna bother. It just ruins the experience.


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    Guild Wars isn't true F2P. You still have to buy the game.

    TF2 is only there because it's not really a big title. it doesn't get any updates either.

    the PS2 model is probably the best we can get without microtransactions being shoved down our throats.

    i think most F2P models will suck this generation. because publishers can get away with it on the consoles.

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