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    SteamOS announced by Valve, a free operating system “available soon” for living room



    Following up on its enigmatic announcement-of-an-announcement last week, Valve has unveiled SteamOS, a free stand-alone operating system “for living room machines.”
    The OS “combines the rock-solid architecture of Linux with a gaming experience built for the big screen,” according to the announcement. In-house streaming to a TV, similar to what’s used in Nvidia’s Shield, is a feature of the OS.
    Valve also emphasizes SteamOS’s openness. Users can “can alter or replace any part of the software or hardware they want,” and hardware manufacturers are free to “iterate in the living room at a much faster pace,” setting it apart from console-style closed systems.
    A vague component of the announcement is Valve’s claim to have “achieved significant performance increases in graphics processing” in SteamOS. Valve adds that it’s “now targeting audio performance and reductions in input latency at the operating system level.” It’s also unclear how many of the 3,000 games on Steam will run natively on SteamOS–Valve says you’ll be able to “access the full Steam catalog” through in-home streaming. We’re also curious how well the operating system will be suited to desktop PCs or laptops that aren’t used in the living room.
    Check back on Wednesday for the second of three announcements expected from Valve this week.
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    Very interesting, Valve.

    Shall be keeping my eyes on this. While it isn't aimed at me it's a very good development for PC gaming.

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    We all speculated this would happen and no it is confirmed. Will for sure give ths a try and I expect the "steam boxes" to release shortly afterwards.

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    If SteamOS isn't running on a licensed version of Windows, it will be for not. Ninety-five percent of all PC games are for Windows, not this "SteamOS."

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    It's running on linux. more and more games are starting to support Linux and most of the source engine games support it so it is already picking up speed. For sure it isn't going to rival Windows as the gaming platform of choice however more and more developers will start to support it.

    It just needs to start getting frequent driver updates as well as a API to rival DirectX as i can't see MS letting Valve use that. The streaming sounds interesting


    i'm still willing to try it and see how it goes. imagine that. Half Life 3 exclusive to SteamOS
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    Lol they already said somewhere , there are at least 500 games ready to run on this OS. I am expecting alot from Steam, they may help me get rid of expensive,useless windows bull$#@!.
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    The countdown for the next announcement (going by the icons it appears to be the Steam Box) ends on September 25th, which is the same day AMD is revealing their new GPUs.
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    Next to follow suite is development software.
    • I no longer use MS Office but instead LibreOffice
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    The list is endless, the only reason I still use Windows is because most of the development software I use requires it as well as most of my games. On the games front however it has already begun, slowly but it's happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varsh View Post
    Next to follow suite is development software.
    • I no longer use MS Office but instead LibreOffice
    • I no longer use WMP but instead MusicBrainz Picard and Songbird
    • I no longer use IE but instead use Chrome
    • I no longer use Windows Messenger but instead Instantbird
    • I no longer use Outlook but instead use Thunderbird
    The list is endless, the only reason I still use Windows is because most of the development software I use requires it as well as most of my games. On the games front however it has already begun, slowly but it's happening.
    Definitely!! If steam can make a good os with solid gaming, entertainment experience ( Everyone know they can)that means I am finally done with MS.
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    This means that if someone finds a bug they can fix it if they have the know how or even create their own version of the OS with more features that Valve included and then maybe Valve will add those features to their version int he future, saw this happen with Yellow Dog Linux for PS3 a fair few times.

    Here is the Linux store.
    http://store.steampowered.com/browse/linux/


    Regarding Libre an open orifice I tried them but doesn't support everything that MS Office does. I like the idea of them being free but I had to mess and fiddle around just to get MS Office spreadsheets to format properly and when I emailed my CV to people who use MS Office they couldn't open it properly despite their documentation saying it should
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    That why you should always send your CV and other documentation and covering letters in PDF format. Granted Office does have some really nice features but those features can easily be left out. So far I have been able to open up all of my documents in the corresponding application so that's fine but yes some reformatting is required in some areas but overall it's fine.

    As for Linux, it doesn't matter what distro you have, the amount of people constantly striving to making it better means that more people work on Linux than all Windows OS's put together.

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    It's just their latest monetisation strategy. Funnel even more gamers into Steamworks. Valve aren't really a games company, they're a money making juggernaut and when you see it through that lens, you can see a lot of what they do in sharper context.

    It's funny that they criticised MS for fencing off windows 8 when it's clear that is their intention as well, they're halfway there already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyn View Post
    It's just their latest monetisation strategy. Funnel even more gamers into Steamworks. Valve aren't really a games company, they're a money making juggernaut and when you see it through that lens, you can see a lot of what they do in sharper context.

    It's funny that they criticised MS for fencing off windows 8 when it's clear that is their intention as well, they're halfway there already.
    I don't use steam , just have it for FM, but which side of them make them as bad as MS ? Can u explain us? I don't know a thing about them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shingo View Post
    I don't use steam , just have it for FM, but which side of them make them as bad as MS ? Can u explain us? I don't know a thing about them.
    I didn't mean they are as bad as MS in general, just that Steam is already essentially a ring fenced garden, but one that many consumers are happy with. They criticised MS for their plans to make Windows 8 a ring fenced garden, ala Apples app store.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyn View Post
    I didn't mean they are as bad as MS in general, just that Steam is already essentially a ring fenced garden, but one that many consumers are happy with. They criticised MS for their plans to make Windows 8 a ring fenced garden, ala Apples app store.
    The difference is Steam OS is not a general purpose OS to do your word processing or web browsing or banking or watching your porn, its specific purpose is playing Steam games.

    GabeN Criticised windows 8 for not allowing freedom, this OS is free and open source so gives people the option to customise it if they can. And those that can will.

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    So how does this work? You have a PC with this as a dedicated OS on it and you use it purely for gaming? Or is the idea that you would boot partition it and boot into it when you want to game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyn View Post
    I didn't mean they are as bad as MS in general, just that Steam is already essentially a ring fenced garden, but one that many consumers are happy with. They criticised MS for their plans to make Windows 8 a ring fenced garden, ala Apples app store.
    All I now is they deliver lots of games cheap as $#@!, hence lots of countries like Turkey ( where gaming is really an expensive hobby ) , and make lots of gamers leave pirate gaming. But like I said, I don't know a thing about them so you are probably right, but I personally haven't met a company that is not having those aims you mentioned.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparc View Post
    So how does this work? You have a PC with this as a dedicated OS on it and you use it purely for gaming? Or is the idea that you would boot partition it and boot into it when you want to game?
    I guess we will get your questions answered within a few days. There are two more reveals counting down. But the usage of SteamOs on any pc is probably fail, because almost every pc has it is own setup. Maybe they made some deals with some computer companies , some agree to build laptops with steamos in it. Altough I am %100 sure Ms will try really hard to block that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparc View Post
    So how does this work? You have a PC with this as a dedicated OS on it and you use it purely for gaming? Or is the idea that you would boot partition it and boot into it when you want to game?
    Its up to you.
    Computer manufacturers will sell "steam boxes" with it pre installed.
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    A trouble free, solid OS with good pricing and a sofa experience? If current steam library is available I could see me having a steambox.


    Edit: meh. Scratch that. Just read it is a new OS and with no windows library.


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    I think you guy have completely missed what it does, the SteamOS will allow you to STREAM you PC games to the new SteamOS. Think of it like PS Vita TV but for the PC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varsh View Post
    I think you guy have completely missed what it does, the SteamOS will allow you to STREAM you PC games to the new SteamOS. Think of it like PS Vita TV but for the PC.
    Stream the windows only games (or all of them) but should play the Linux games natively such as all Valve's games and a fairly large amount of smaller indie type games.

    All the games you love

    Hundreds of great games are already running natively on SteamOS. Watch for announcements in the coming weeks about all the AAA titles coming natively to SteamOS in 2014. Access the full Steam catalog of nearly 3000 games and desktop software titles via in-home streaming.
    About another 12 or so hours to wait for the next announcement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keefy View Post
    The difference is Steam OS is not a general purpose OS to do your word processing or web browsing or banking or watching your porn, its specific purpose is to stream Steam games form you current Windows PC..

    GabeN Criticised windows 8 for not allowing freedom, this OS is free and open source so gives people the option to customise it if they can. And those that can will.
    And its useless if you don't have a 2nd box.
    No one in their right mind is going to develop triple AAA games for Linux.
    The best this is going to do is be a streaming box.

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    Valve targeted Mac a few years ago and has there been an increase in games for MAc since then?
    I dunno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keefy View Post
    Valve targeted Mac a few years ago and has there been an increase in games for MAc since then?
    I dunno.
    The problem is.

    1/ Devs are going to develop for just Steam O/S, they would require Linux to have a much large install base than it will every have.

    2/ Devs don't need the hassle of a unstable API, they need to know that a game will work on a system ,regardless of the GPU in the system, and at the end of the day, if you don't have unified API, your kinda screwed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varsh View Post
    I think you guy have completely missed what it does, the SteamOS will allow you to STREAM you PC games to the new SteamOS. Think of it like PS Vita TV but for the PC.



    Personally i won't be streaming much from my mac. Might as well build a win7 HTPC to play steam games.

    Its a good move for the future, if there is a lot of development and gamepad support, but currently its too early to make me jump on it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    1/ Devs are going to develop for just Steam O/S, they would require Linux to have a much large install base than it will every have.
    Even if the games are developed for SteamOS in mind we're talking about Linux here, all that would be required 99% of the time is a simple kernel recompile for the relevant settings or additions. That's the beauty of Linux.

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