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    Xbox One "Crazy Bandwidth" A Benefit To Developers Says Microsoft

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    Microsoft's Ken Lobb counters criticisms of the Xbox One.

    Published on Sep 24, 2013

    Sony has made much of the close relationship that they are fostering with developers and has been at pains to point out how the company consulted developers closely when designing the PS4.

    When it comes to the Xbox One, developers have been critical of the console, even going so far as to describe the Xbox One as "horrible" to work with.

    Microsoft's Ken Lobb claims that, on the contrary, the Xbox One will actually be great for developers to work with due to the Xbox One's eSRAM.

    “They maybe have a little more GPU,” said Lobb, referring to the PS4, in an interview with Edge. “We have eSRAM and crazy bandwidth to that eSRAM.

    "Which is going to be better in the long run? We’re going to see as the games go head to head," Lobb continued. "A lot of it will come down to – as always – which exclusive teams push a piece of hardware best.”

    Lobb's statements contradict claims that we previously reported on, in which a developer said, referring to the Xbox One, "it’s a pain to use its eSRAM".

    Edge also spoke to Microsoft's Phil Harrison, who claimed that Microsoft are "winning the games message."

    "We had over 100 awards coming out of E3 for games on our platform," said Harrison.

    "That is more than twice as many awards as any other platform. So the media recognised our games on Xbox One as being the best lineup – including Titanfall, which is the most awarded game in the history of E3, coming to Xbox One and to Xbox 360.”

    Lobb's right about one thing: when it comes to both console power and games, we'll have to wait to see who comes out on top in the long run.
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    "Which is going to be better in the long run? We’re going to see as the games go head to head," Lobb continued. "A lot of it will come down to – as always – which exclusive teams push a piece of hardware best.”
    He better watch out what he says lol. Based on this generation, I'm going to say the odds aren't in the Microsoft favor.




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    I am taking this with a grain of salt, it is one thing to hear someone from Microsoft or Sony talk about great their hardware is, but I would rather hear what developer are saying about the hardware, and right now Sony is dominating in that area!


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    I wish these journalists would stop talking to MS and Sony, and rather talk to Third Party developers (Not First or Second)

    Both Sony and Microsoft are going to say there console is better, I'd rather read about the actual facts of the matter from those that are currently using both.

    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    He better watch out what he says lol. Based on this generation, I'm going to say the odds aren't in the Microsoft favor.
    It's going to be hard to beat out Naughty Dog, I dont think MS really has an exclusive team that can match them.

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    It's not like the ps4 is going to be maxed out day one either. So as devs make progress "in the long run" on the xbone, devs will make progress "in the long run" on the ps4 too. MS should have just stuck to their message of not talking about the specs and games/services only. They're giving fans false hope of games actually being equal despite the power difference.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenix View Post
    I wish these journalists would stop talking to MS and Sony, and rather talk to Third Party developers (Not First or Second)

    Both Sony and Microsoft are going to say there console is better, I'd rather read about the actual facts of the matter from those that are currently using both.
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    MS talking about exclusive teams? Sony definitely has a huge advantage there. We saw that this gen and with the PS4 with its ease of development coupled with powerful hardware we'll see it again but on a whole new level.

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    When it comes to the Xbox One, developers have been critical of the console, even going so far as to describe the Xbox One as "horrible" to work with.

    Microsoft's Ken Lobb claims that, on the contrary, the Xbox One will actually be great for developers to work with due to the Xbox One's eSRAM.
    lol soooo according to MS we should disregard what devs are saying and believe what there PR team is telling us? gotcha!


    lol in the long run....with a question mark
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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungMullah88 View Post
    lol soooo according to MS we should disregard what devs are saying and believe what there PR team is telling us? gotcha!


    lol in the long run....with a question mark
    It seems that's what the message is. Unless anyone cares to clarify further, it seems rather desperate imo.

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    ****SARCASM INBOUND****

    i FEEL TOTALLY RIPPED OFF.
    All of this time all they needed was 32MB of REALLY FAST RAM thats actually slower than the GDDR5 on my video card? So, my video card should have DDR3 as well and a small KIND OF REALLY FAST ESRAM cache to get the best performance? So my video card was expensive for no reason? It's a total lie?
    My NVIDIA 670 SuperClock 4GB GDDR5 would work better if it were just slower ram and a FAST CACHE! Microsoft just told me that!

    AMAZING. I feelz totally ripsed off!
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Willaford View Post
    ****SARCASM INBOUND****

    i FEEL TOTALLY RIPPED OFF.
    All of this time all they needed was 32MB of REALLY FAST RAM thats actually slower than the GDDR5 on my video card? So, my video card should have DDR3 as well and a small KIND OF REALLY FAST ESRAM cache to get the best performance? So my video card was expensive for no reason? It's a total lie?
    My NVIDIA 670 SuperClock 4GB GDDR5 would work better if it were just slower ram and a FAST CACHE! Microsoft just told me that!

    AMAZING. I feelz totally ripsed off!
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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungMullah88 View Post
    lol soooo according to MS we should disregard what devs are saying and believe what there PR team is telling us? gotcha! lol in the long run....with a question mark
    /thread. MS PR just keeps sounding more and more in desperate damage control mode.
    Last edited by mistercrow; 09-25-2013 at 09:36.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistercrow View Post
    /thread. MS PR just keeps sounding more and more in desperate damage control mode.
    To be fair they are in damage control mode though!

    It has been kind of funny but I cant wait now for the consoles to release so we can get our next gen gaming on

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    Quote Originally Posted by roy8846 View Post
    To be fair they are in damage control mode though!

    It has been kind of funny but I cant wait now for the consoles to release so we can get our next gen gaming on

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    Yeah. TBF, we'll all forget these the moment we get the consoles. Or at least I will. Just game, no need to front up.

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    You know, if someone at Microsoft had realized that admitting you weren't trying to build the most powerful console right off the bat was a bad idea, perhaps their PR department wouldn't be so desperately trying to control the fall out. I can't figure out what is going on in the Xbox division, they are usually smarter than this. I'm starting to think MS wasn't expecting the PS4 for another 6 months or something, because they don't seem to have anything finalized and everything they say ends up being reversed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venger View Post
    You know, if someone at Microsoft had realized that admitting you weren't trying to build the most powerful console right off the bat was a bad idea, perhaps their PR department wouldn't be so desperately trying to control the fall out. I can't figure out what is going on in the Xbox division, they are usually smarter than this. I'm starting to think MS wasn't expecting the PS4 for another 6 months or something, because they don't seem to have anything finalized and everything they say ends up being reversed.
    Seems to me they are right on schedule. They did pass fcc before without many people knowing so you can't really believe everything that's floating around on the internet.

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