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    1080p Native vs 1080p Upscaled

    Saw a very interesting comparison on gaf today

    1080p native


    1080p Upscaled


    I can't see any difference without going full digital foundry crazy zoom on it
    I feel like anyone who says the blurring is visible is full of sh*t

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    What was the original resolution of the upscaled image? If it wasn't too far below 1080P then the difference would be negligible. Also over all detail of the render makes a difference too, just because it is rendered natively in 1080P doesn't mean the quality is great!

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    There is a handy thing in BF4 that does this exact thing. Runs the game at a lower resolution but upscales it to your actual native resolution.

    Open in tabs (middle click mouse) and flick between tabs

    1080p Native
    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...3-28-21-26.jpg

    75% 810p
    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...3-30-35-84.jpg

    55% 594p
    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...3-29-50-88.jpg

    i think my math is correct

    1080/100 = 10.8 * 75 = 810

    should do a 900p an 720p
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    There is lots of reasons why it may be good or bad, they way its upscaled, the sampling method, original image size etc etc.
    But by in large going from say 900 to 1080? only images represented by a single pixel will be noticeable.
    And considering we don't notice single pixels.....meh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keefy View Post
    There is a handy thing in BF4 that does this exact thing. Runs the game at a lower resolution but upscales it to your actual native resolution.

    Open in tabs (middle click mouse) and flick between tabs

    1080p Native
    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...3-28-21-26.jpg

    75% 810p
    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...3-30-35-84.jpg

    55% 594p
    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...3-29-50-88.jpg

    i think my math is correct

    1080/100 = 10.8 * 75 = 810

    should do a 900p an 720p
    BRB
    Do an 83.3%
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmatt View Post
    What was the original resolution of the upscaled image? If it wasn't too far below 1080P then the difference would be negligible. Also over all detail of the render makes a difference too, just because it is rendered natively in 1080P doesn't mean the quality is great!

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    its 900p upscaled (for the Ryse comparison)

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    Interesting. Still don't like it. Real 1080p or go home devs!!

    and there is an odd level of crispness missing from the second image. without zooming in you can see the line of the hud isn't as smooth. running however i wouldn't be noticable


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    Judging by those screens, if the game is exclusive, people won't know if the textures aren't up to par or if the resolution took a hit. In the upscaled screen you can see the textures are slightly blurred compared to the native 1080 screen.

    I think this will only be an issue when concerning multiplats. And if it's like anything this gen, the difference will be bashed over the losing team head and that game will be declared unplayable on that console lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Do an 83.3%
    Not possible nearest is 85% since its in 5% increments.

    Looks gradually blurrier to me although something strange happened on the first screen with the texture on the left.

    1080p native
    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...0%20native.jpg

    85% 918p
    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...le/85-918p.jpg

    65% 702p
    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...le/65-702p.jpg
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    I can clearly see a difference, though this comparison is admittedly not perfect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keefy View Post
    Not possible nearest is 85% since its in 5% increments.

    Looks gradually blurrier to me although something strange happened on the first screen with the texture on the left.

    1080p native
    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...0%20native.jpg

    85% 918p
    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...le/85-918p.jpg

    65% 702p
    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...le/65-702p.jpg
    The blurring is very obvious in those screens. I guess what Mynd says is true; depends on the quality of the upscaling

    Also @two and D3: I cannot for the life of me see any of the differences you guys are talking about :/
    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgotha View Post
    I can clearly see a difference, though this comparison is admittedly not perfect.
    yeah they resized a native image down and later re-scaled it back up. That certainly preserves the detail via the initial downsampling
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    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi View Post
    Saw a very interesting comparison on gaf today

    1080p native


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    I can't see any difference without going full digital foundry crazy zoom on it
    I feel like anyone who says the blurring is visible is full of sh*t
    I saved both pics. Loading them in preview and switching between them, I CAN see the blur difference.. it's just really faint. Just scrolling from one pic to the other in the thread I can see subtle differences. Sorry.




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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    I saved both pics. Loading them in preview and switching between them, I CAN see the blur difference.. it's just really faint. Just scrolling from one pic to the other in the thread I can see subtle differences. Sorry.
    What is your screen size? Maybe that's why, cuz my 15" 900p laptop screen might be at fault here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    if the game is exclusive, people won't know if the textures aren't up to par or if the resolution took a hit.
    Fundamental truth.
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    Look at the helghast soldier on the far left. Look at the details in his pants in the native picture then look at them in the upscaled pic.

    There's other examples too but that's the easiest one to point out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi View Post
    What is your screen size? Maybe that's why, cuz my 15" 900p laptop screen might be at fault here
    27" from two feet away.




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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    27" from two feet away.
    That's what she said......
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    That's what she said......
    As you walked in and saw her with someone else...




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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    As you walked in and saw her with someone else...
    27 inches from two feet away?

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    I zoomed it in and i can tell the upscale is more blurry. Especially on the ground textures.




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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    27 inches from two feet away?

    ROFLMFAO!!! I'm cleaning up the mess I just made laughing too hard lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by ps3freak18 View Post
    I zoomed it in and i can tell the upscale is more blurry. Especially on the ground textures.
    I can tell w/o having to zoom in. How many times during actual game play are you going to zoom in? lol




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    on my calibrated notebook, 17.3 in 1080p Dell Precision.. it's not as sharp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    I can tell w/o having to zoom in.
    I thought that but it depends on his screen size/resolution I guess. I'm on a sub 16" monitor and can tell the difference without zooming.
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