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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Did you complain about being charged for the Wii sensor bar?
    Did consumers?
    I can't believe you fucking said that shit. about as pathetic as those that say the ps3 had blu ray so what's the difference with kinect being packed in...

    Quote Originally Posted by YoungMullah88 View Post
    Yep, I've been saying the same thing also. I wish they would have stayed with there vision...obviously people voted with there wallets, hence the low pre order numbers which prompted the 180s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Man Gamer View Post
    The reaction around here is like MS is holding a gun to every gamers head and forcing them to buy the One. If people aren't happy with Kinect being packaged with it, they can simply not buy it.
    It's not complicated: Plenty of people want to buy the XB1 to enjoy it and its games. So, naturally, they're not exactly pleased at the prospect of having to spend an extra $100 for something they deem unnecessary or useless. Microsoft is forcing people to but the Kinect, not the XB1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistercrow View Post
    lol So much irony.
    indeed.......Now keep saying that over and over....lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    Basically, yes, they are holding a gun to my head. I want to play the exclusives... so I need to buy the console. I dislike the one option they gave. I did buy the console, but that doesn't mean I'm not disappointed in their money grabbing.
    That is a decision that you have made. You don't HAVE to play the exclusives, you WANT to.

    Personally, I think the exclusives suck. There is not one of them that interest me. But that's my opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    God forbid that people share a different opinion to you xbone fans.
    No, but how many threads and how many times are people going to post complaining about this? I think people here understand.

    It's time to kill a horse and beat that one for a while. Maybe about MS changing their policies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Man Gamer View Post
    That is a decision that you have made. You don't HAVE to play the exclusives, you WANT to.

    Personally, I think the exclusives suck. There is not one of them that interest me. But that's my opinion.



    No, but how many threads and how many times are people going to post complaining about this? I think people here understand.

    It's time to kill a horse and beat that one for a while. Maybe about MS changing their policies.

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    Correct. It's my decision ultimately. That doesn't remove the disappointment aspect of it. Kinect is the gun, and it's being held to my head.

    All in all, I'm getting the system, pros and cons all in fold.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Man Gamer View Post
    That is a decision that you have made. You don't HAVE to play the exclusives, you WANT to.

    Personally, I think the exclusives suck. There is not one of them that interest me. But that's my opinion.

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    People don't get that part. If you don't like what is offered don't buy it. Voice your opinion about it but it's obviously not gonna change. At lest not now.

    My car comes with a cigarette lighter, but I don't smoke so I don't want the car now.... They are forcing a cigarette lighter for non smokers...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    People don't get that part. If you don't like what is offered don't buy it. Voice your opinion about it but it's obviously not gonna change. At lest not now.

    My car comes with a cigarette lighter, but I don't smoke so I don't want the car now.... They are forcing a cigarette lighter for non smokers...lol
    I never said I don't want the system. I don't want kinect ffs, and I have to pay for it if I want the console.

    If that cigarette lighter made a dent into the actual price, then I'd complain about that.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    I can't believe you fucking said that shit. about as pathetic as those that say the ps3 had blu ray so what's the difference with kinect being packed in...

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    If I bought a Wii U for AC3 why the fuck do I want a sensor bar?

    Shit I could bitch about my favourite chips not coming in a pack half the size.
    I could bitch about a particular car coming only with passenger Airbags when I only drive it.

    You know what, the seller gets to offer you a product.

    Don't see value in what he sells you? Don't buy it.
    That's the way the free economy works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    If I bought a Wii U for AC3 why the fuck do I want a sensor bar?
    That's a bit different mynd. Is the cost of the Wii U being driven up by the sensor bar? Retailing for $9.00... I'm going to make a pretty easy assumption here.




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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    I never said I don't want the system. I don't want kinect ffs, and I have to pay for it if I want the console.

    If that cigarette lighter made a dent into the actual price, then I'd complain about that.
    Yep, complain but it's still not going anywhere, and it's still something you pay for and won't use, but comes in handy. Just like paying for homeowners insurance and plenty other things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    That's a bit different mynd. Is the cost of the Wii U being driven up by the sensor bar?
    Of course it is. Maybe by a only ten dollars, but of course it makes a difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    Yep, complain but it's still not going anywhere, and it's still something you pay for and won't use, but comes in handy. Just like paying for homeowners insurance and plenty other things.
    What does any of that have to do with kinect being in the box, and driving up the price? I never said anything was going anywhere. I'm simply saying that it's shit for Microsoft to force consumers to pay for Kinect if they want the system. It's simple math really. Home owners insurance? wtf does that have to do with Kinect being in the box with the console? Home owners insurance isn't forced on your if you paid for your house. It's an OPTION.
    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Of course it is.
    It is what? Driving up the price by a few dollars?




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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    If I bought a Wii U for AC3 why the fuck do I want a sensor bar?

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    What fool buys a wii u for 3rd party?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    What fool buys a wii u for 3rd party?
    I bought AC3 on Wii U.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    indeed.......Now keep saying that over and over....lol
    You mean like you do on the other side of the topic?......lol

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    I never used more than one USB at a time on my PS3, nor the wifi chipset. Sony didn't have to charge up the paying price for those features I wouldn't use. I also didn't need the rumble in those controllers. I call shenanigans.

    See how silly that is? There's a common sense factor involved here. There's a difference between the Wii-U sensor and the 100+ dollar Kinect being forced onto the consumer. It's not the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapture View Post
    I never used more than one USB at a time on my PS3, nor the wifi chipset. Sony didn't have to charge up the paying price for those features I wouldn't use. I also didn't need the rumble in those controllers. I call shenanigans.

    See how silly that is? There's a common sense factor involved here. There's a difference between the Wii-U sensor and the 100+ dollar Kinect being forced onto the consumer. It's not the same thing.
    Is there an echo in here??




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    Quote Originally Posted by mistercrow View Post
    You mean like you do on the other side of the topic?......lol
    The other side...lol That's a new one there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapture View Post
    I never used more than one USB at a time on my PS3, nor the wifi chipset. Sony didn't have to charge up the paying price for those features I wouldn't use. I also didn't need the rumble in those controllers. I call shenanigans.

    See how silly that is? There's a common sense factor involved here. There's a difference between the Wii-U sensor and the 100+ dollar Kinect being forced onto the consumer. It's not the same thing.
    Nothing is being forced on you.
    MS makes a games console.

    Part of that console is that it uses a controller.
    It also comes with a Kinect sensor camera, that doubles up as an IR blaster.

    They are offering it to you.

    They aren't "forcing" you to buy it.

    They are saying this is our product offering.

    And for all this, the XBO is STILL cheaper than I paid for my original Xbox360.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Nothing is being forced on you.
    MS makes a games console.

    Part of that console is that it uses a controller.
    It also comes with a Kinect sensor camera, that doubles up as an IR blaster.

    They are offering it to you.

    They aren't "forcing" you to buy it.

    They are saying this is our product offering.

    And for all this, the XBO is STILL cheaper than I paid for my original Xbox360.
    Lol by them packaging it with the Console and not having any other options is in essence forcing it

    Cheaper than the 360...more expensive than the competition

    (Channeling greatkoaster)...this out going Gen, all ms and the fans where yelling where options this options that! What the hell happened to that meme?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Nothing is being forced on you.
    MS makes a games console.

    Part of that console is that it uses a controller.
    It also comes with a Kinect sensor camera, that doubles up as an IR blaster.

    They are offering it to you.

    They aren't "forcing" you to buy it.

    They are saying this is our product offering.

    And for all this, the XBO is STILL cheaper than I paid for my original Xbox360.
    That only applies to us here though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    Basically, yes, they are holding a gun to my head. I want to play the exclusives... so I need to buy the console. I dislike the one option they gave. I did buy the console, but that doesn't mean I'm not disappointed in their money grabbing.
    Exactly. (Except I don't plan on buying an Xbone until there is a significant price drop, probably in 3-4 years.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by admartian View Post
    That only applies to us here though.
    Correcting myself here:
    http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=5499

    You may have gotten it cheaper, but the XBone isn't cheaper than the 360 - not at launch prices. E.g. I can't compare PS3 price reductions prices, to that of the PS4, and say that the PS4 is expensive.

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    Definitely getting one (will not buy it myself), and I will certainly enjoy Kinect to the fullest (and the hdmi pass through)

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