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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Oh its not debunked, PS4 SDKS's are PC's. Its just not all that interesting, in development games running in development environment shouldn't shock anyone. As for Forza, it is in a sense, but then again, it is a lot to port the old code across without loosing out on what makes Forza, forza. Still a lot of work involved, and in some sense, more work than making a completely new thing for scratch. Still, if they announce Forza Horizon 2 anytime soon and I may be very interested.
    Whatever, I'm sure both systems games were running on development kits and not retail units. As for Turn 10 porting old code rather than making a proper next gen engine is just lazy or its rushing it out to make it a launch title. Either way the end result is still Forza 4.5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mistercrow View Post
    It was debunked last I heard. As for Forza porting old code rather than making a proper next gen engine is just lazy or its rushing it out to make it a launch title. Either way its still Forza 4.5.
    What was debunked that the games were running on PC's? Of course they were.
    Yoshi even confirmed they weren't running on retail kits, why the hell would in development game be running on retail kits anyway? They were running on PC's. Not you avergae PC, but rather a PC that had a special mainboard with a PS4 APU and GDDR ram.
    Still ran on Windows 7 though, cause that's the SDK environment.

    As for Forza, its not lazy, every version has built on previous versions code, scrapping the entire engine makes no sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    What was debunked that the games were running on PC's? Of course they were. Yoshi even confirmed they weren't running on retail kits, why the hell would in development game be running on retail kits anyway? They were running on PC's. Not you avergae PC, but rather a PC that had a special mainboard with a PS4 APU and GDDR ram. Still ran on Windows 7 though, cause that's the SDK environment. As for Forza, its not lazy, every version has built on previous versions code, scrapping the entire engine makes no sense.
    Try reading my post above yours. As for Forza you just confirmed my point. And thats why each Forza has only looked marginally better than the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistercrow View Post
    Try reading my post above yours. As for Forza you just confirmed my point. And thats why each Forza has only looked marginally better than the other.

    Oh you sneaky stealth editor

    At Forza, tis the way of code development, least you get stuck in development hell, there is something to be said about slight improvements, I haven't seen it in the flesh so I cant compare how big those improvements are this time around, but yes, it's certainly never going to be as big a jump as if they spent another two years making it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Oh you sneaky stealth editor At Forza, tis the way of code development, least you get stuck in development hell, there is something to be said about slight improvements, I haven't seen it in the flesh so I cant compare how big those improvements are this time around, but yes, it's certainly never going to be as big a jump as if they spent another two years making it.
    If I was an X1 owner I would just rather have seen Turn 10 make a proper next gen engine and do day/night cycles even if that means releasing later instead of rushing out an only marginally better looking game and without day/night cycles or even weather. No excuse for a next gen sim racer not to have that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistercrow View Post
    If I was an X1 owner I would just rather have seen Turn 10 make a proper next gen engine and do day/night cycles even if that means releasing later instead of rushing out an only marginally better looking game and without day/night cycles or even weather. No excuse for a next gen sim racer not to have that.
    How many launch day racers have a day night cyle?

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    Let's please not turn this into yet another DC vs Forza thread.
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    On the plus side, with Watch Dog's and DC delayed to 2014, along with everything else previously going to be launched that year, it's going to be a kick-ass year in gaming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ps3freak18 View Post
    Let's please not turn this into yet another DC vs Forza thread.
    Not really a DC vs Forza thing more of a delay vs features thing.
    I think we can all agree the more a game is in production the more features it will likely have...

    Unless its Duke Nukem...or Colonial Marines..

    Ahem...

    I think we can all agree that for most games, the more a game is in production the more features it will likely have...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Still, if they announce Forza Horizon 2 anytime soon and I may be very interested.
    Yes. Yes. Yes. Forza Horizon is possibly the best racing game I've ever played. If not, it's at least the best since NFS:MW.

    Are Playground Games own by MS? As I'd be all over another racer developed by them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TGO View Post
    Myself is uneffected by this if true.

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    Me too.....if BF4 and Resogun are delayed, now that would be a different story altogether!
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    Well I can live without DriveClub for a while as I'll be playing more than enough F2P games to keep me busy until its release anyway but still I was looking forward to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Not really a DC vs Forza thing more of a delay vs features thing.
    I think we can all agree the more a game is in production the more features it will likely have...

    Unless its Duke Nukem...or Colonial Marines..

    Ahem...

    I think we can all agree that for most games, the more a game is in production the more features it will likely have...
    Oh i know. I had no problem with the conversation. It was very civil. All it takes is one person to not like what is said and wildfire. Don't misunderstand my intentions. I'm just trying to futureproof the thread from turning into a battle royale. Stay classy!




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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    How many launch day racers have a day night cyle?
    Drive Club for one (unless the delay rumor is true) and NFS Rivals which has day/night cycles AND dynamic weather. http://www.xbox360achievements.org/n...the-Wheel.html and looking at the hardware and ease of development of both systems it should be easily done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mistercrow View Post
    Drive Club for one (unless the delay rumor is true) and NFS Rivals which has day/night cycles AND dynamic weather. http://www.xbox360achievements.org/n...the-Wheel.html and looking at the hardware and ease of development of both systems it should be easily done.
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    Why is Drive Club in all the launch commercials on National TV during Baseball Divisional Series and MNF and Sunday Football if it is being delayed? I can understand if it needs to be done....but I don't see why you would then invest so much advertising with it if that was the case....sorry..until I hear officially from Sony...this game gets launched in some shape or form.

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    I was skeptical at first cause who is this website?
    But it seems famousmortimer from Gaf is getting behind this rumour.
    If true I wonder what game Sony will put on PS+ in it's place!?

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    I'm glad i decided to wait til next year for ps4 if this turns out to be true. It really hurts the exclusive lineup. First it was Kinect sports and Watch dogs, and now this one.

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    Kick in the balls for Sony if true. I'm a huge Sony fan but anyone saying forza 5 looks more like 4.5 is blind in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_gooner View Post
    Kick in the balls for Sony if true. I'm a huge Sony fan but anyone saying forza 5 looks more like 4.5 is blind in my opinion. Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk
    Looking at the Alps and Laguna Seca videos Forza 5 does not look like a generational leap to me. Plus no day/night cycle or weather. Yeah, Forza 4.5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    What was debunked that the games were running on PC's? Of course they were.
    Yoshi even confirmed they weren't running on retail kits, why the hell would in development game be running on retail kits anyway? They were running on PC's. Not you avergae PC, but rather a PC that had a special mainboard with a PS4 APU and GDDR ram.
    Still ran on Windows 7 though, cause that's the SDK environment.

    As for Forza, its not lazy, every version has built on previous versions code, scrapping the entire engine makes no sense.
    I seem to remember in one of his past keynotes at Quakecon Carmack said he scrapped most of the code for idtech4 to create idtech5. It took ages and he said he will not do it again.

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    So now I'm 2 games down for Launch week counting Watchdogs. These delays are getting out of hand! For Christ's sake it's less than a month away from release!! With Watchdogs being pulled from the Launch title list, and The Crew being pulled from Launch Window list was already painful enough, but this is just complete BS. I, for on,e am not so much affected since I wasn't purchasing the game. But I was getting the PS Plus version, and this is a kick in the balls to not only the company and it's products image, but the fans of this game as well.

    What's next to be delayed, Battlefield 4? Destiny in 2015?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermes View Post
    So now I'm 2 games down for Launch week counting Watchdogs. These delays are getting out of hand! For Christ's sake it's less than a month away from release!! With Watchdogs being pulled from the Launch title list, and The Crew being pulled from Launch Window list was already painful enough, but this is just complete BS. I, for on,e am not so much affected since I wasn't purchasing the game. But I was getting the PS Plus version, and this is a kick in the balls to not only the company and it's products image, but the fans of this game as well.

    What's next to be delayed, Battlefield 4? Destiny in 2015?
    Try PS4 and XBox One............... till next year


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