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    AMD Benchmarks Show Radeon R9 290X Outgunning Nvidia GeForce GTX 780 at 4K Reso

    http://www.maximumpc.com/amd_benchma...ia_geforce_gtx
    At a modest price it is hard to overlook the r9 290x and its performance.


    AMD Benchmarks Show Radeon R9 290X Outgunning Nvidia GeForce GTX 780 at 4K Resolution
    Posted 10/17/2013 at 1:07pm | by Paul Lilly
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    AMD steals thunder from Nvidia's press event
    Nvidia is hosting a two-day press event in Montreal, but it's AMD that's stealing some of the headlines. The Sunnyvale chip designer decided to crash Nvidia's party by setting up shop in a hotel across the street to showcase its Radeon R9 290X graphics card and compare benchmarks against Nvidia's GeForce GTX 780 part. It's a brazen tactic and we hear Nvidia isn't real happy with AMD's stunt, but GPU politics aside, we have some benchmarks AMD is allowing the media to share.

    AMD benchmarked both cards on a test system consisting an Intel Core i7 3960X processor clocked at 3.3GHz, MSI X79A-GD65 motherboard, 16GB DDR3-1600 RAM, and Windows 7 64-bit with SP1. AMD used a future Catalyst 13.11 beta driver release for its own graphics card, and Nvidia driver 331.40 for the GTX 780.

    Here's how the benchmarks came out:

    BioShock Infinite (3840x2160, Ultra Settings)

    AMD Radeon R9 290X "Quiet Mode" average frame rate: 44.25
    Nvidia GeForce GTX 780 average frame rate: 37.67
    Tomb Raider (3840x2160, Normal Preset w/ TressFX On Off)

    AMD Radeon R9 290X "Quiet Mode" average frame rate: 40.2
    Nvidia GeForce GTX 780 average frame rate: 34.5
    It's worth noting that TressFX runs better on AMD hardware currently, and You can bank on future driver releases improving performance on Nvidia's side. For now, however, this is a pretty good showing for AMD's R9 290X.

    Expect more information about AMD's flagship card in the coming weeks. In the meantime, have a look at specs and details of five other upcoming Radeon R7 and R9 Series graphics cards.

    Update
    The Tomb Raider benchmarks were run with TressFX turned off, not on.

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    PAge not found!!!!
    There is still an embargo apparently
    http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd...nce,24732.html
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    For the most part it looks like it Beats the TItan and for at least 300 cheaper.

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/7457/t...-290x-review/8

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    Quote Originally Posted by keefy View Post
    Bump

    For the most part it looks like it Beats the TItan and for at least 300 cheaper.

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/7457/t...-290x-review/8
    There was a thread on Gaf about this. apparently under load the card runs at 95c heat which made some posters think a fan cooled pc couldnt handle it and you would need water cooling.





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    Quote Originally Posted by HellsJester View Post
    There was a thread on Gaf about this. apparently under load the card runs at 95c heat which made some posters think a fan cooled pc couldnt handle it and you would need water cooling.
    My 8800GT ran that hot and so did my ATI x850XT.
    Yes they were hot but they worked fine. The X850 is still alive and kicking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HellsJester View Post
    There was a thread on Gaf about this. apparently under load the card runs at 95c heat which made some posters think a fan cooled pc couldnt handle it and you would need water cooling.
    That's friggin' toasty.
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    I would like to see the stats on a normal gaming set-up as stated 4k is too expensive for the average PC gamer


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    Better than i was expecting. By the looks of things it is more or less the same speed as my GTX780 Superclocked (assuming they are using a Vanilla GTX780) give or take a few frames.

    Good job, AMD.

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    Hats off to AMD. I've been considering picking up another Titan for SLI Titan goodness, but I'm almost tempted to create another gaming system with Crossfire 290Xs. Though, I'm a little uneasy about those temps. On the other hand, winter is coming, so, you know, I could use it as a space heater. I haven't built an AMD centric system for a looong time.

    My other hesitation is that you miss out on PhysX with AMD. But is that worth a couple hundred dollars?
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    I would wait to see what variants other manufactures come up with. Im partial to saphaire vapor-x or msi twin frozer.
    its good to see AMD pushing the pricing and hopefully that drives the market.
    Also its great that both AMD and Nvidia are pushing 4K really hard, hopefully that impacts display manufactures to get it together and start offering some 4K panels at a reasonable price.


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    Impressive specs and price but not enough to tempt me from waiting for Maxwell.

    I've been using ATI/AMD cards for many years, but G-Sync and PhysX support in The Witcher 3 and Star Citizen are things I'd like to experience. I therefore feel locked-in to buying an Nvidia card - it's rather annoying, but a clever marketing strategy nonetheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valefor View Post
    Impressive specs and price but not enough to tempt me from waiting for Maxwell.

    I've been using ATI/AMD cards for many years, but G-Sync and PhysX support in The Witcher 3 and Star Citizen are things I'd like to experience. I therefore feel locked-in to buying an Nvidia card - it's rather annoying, but a clever marketing strategy nonetheless.
    For G-Sync You not only need Nvidia GPU but also need a specific monitor or get the addon board for your current monitor. Also currently only seems to support display port.

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    AMD just kicked Nvidia in the nutsack HARD. Nice.




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    Quote Originally Posted by victorijapoosp View Post
    AMD just kicked Nvidia in the nutsack HARD. Nice.




    You do realize that Nvidia is replacing the 780 with the 780 Ti, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HellsJester View Post
    There was a thread on Gaf about this. apparently under load the card runs at 95c heat which made some posters think a fan cooled pc couldnt handle it and you would need water cooling.
    most of those reviews is on a test bench so expect higher temp(even with non ref cooler) inside a closed case unless u go full water. All AMD did was release an OC GPU and also when the 5970, 6970 etc. came out it beat whatever Nvidia had at the time and vice versa. Nothing to celebrate here, Nvidia did not have the bigger GPU market cause they have the fastest GPU, it the constant update support and features that got them on top. Just look at G-Sync, from a PC gamer eye it makes more sense than a 95C video card. I mean $#@!, it 2013 not 2008 lol AMD keep going backwards.

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    It's impressive but who wants to run the card at these temps for longer then 10minutes.
    Even if it can handle the heat (and the tests I've read say that the performance drops by ~8-10 percent after a short time at these temps) it just gets too loud to bear at max.

    It's a great competition to the 780 and Amds prices are much better then nvidias but I bet 99% of the people will just let it run on "normal" which is fast as hell anyway.

    Overclock a 780 and they're probably head to head again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MATRIX 2 View Post
    You do realize that Nvidia is replacing the 780 with the 780 Ti, right?
    Driver support is the #1 reason I've stuck with NVIDIA cards these days.
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    Really hoping that next GPUs will be more interesting in terms of supported features.
    It should be around time when new shader model is introduced. (within 2014)

    So, I will be waiting for Maxwell and what ever AMD has got against it.
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    I would wait for the non reference cards to be released. Would at least make it quieter.

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    Read some more reviews. As much as I'd like to give AMD a try again, I just don't think I want to deal with those temps and noise levels. I guess, in the end, I'm willing to pay for efficiency, low noise, and driver support/features.
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    So basically, it's a damn good GPU for the price, beats the 780 for price/perf and destroys the Titan (although IMO the Titan became irrelevant after the 780 came out). But anyone with a brain who wants one should wait a little while for the better non-reference versions. And will need very good case cooling.

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    So... looks like Nvidia droped the prices for the 780 and 770 by ~100 bucks.
    780 is now at 500$ / 770 350$

    The new 780Ti will cost ~650$

    I'd favor the 780 at the moment.

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    I'm thinking of building another gaming PC for another HDTV in our house (and retiring the GTX 580 system to server duties). I was really interested to see what would happen with the 290X, and now with nVidia's response, I think I'll go with a SLI 780ti system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beast of Bourbon View Post
    So... looks like Nvidia droped the prices for the 780 and 770 by ~100 bucks.
    Quote Originally Posted by Beast of Bourbon View Post
    780 is now at 500$ / 770 350$

    The new 780Ti will cost ~650$

    I'd favor the 780 at the moment.


    780Ti is $699

    Boy, i'm glad i waited on building a new PC

    My best friend just finished his build one month ago and he's now feeling it, cause he bought 2 780 just weeks before the $150 price drop!




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    This is ho the GPU market goes NV and AMD keep leap frogging each other.

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