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    Wow....bit of a low blow by the dev team....

    Call of Duty developer Infinity Ward has suggested that the people most engaged with the franchise aren't really gamers at all, as they don't play any titles that aren't affiliated with the series.

    That's according to executive producer Mark Rubin, who told OXM that he didn't expect the imminent arrival of the next-gen consoles to have much of an impact on the make-up of COD's audience.

    "Regardless of platform - people's gaming habits aren't going to change just because there's a new platform," he said. "We have an enormous amount of players who are more in the casual game space, but they play a lot.

    "It's kind of a weird, ironic thing to say; They aren't hardcore gamers, or even gamers, but they play Call of Duty every night. And those guys are going to continue to play regardless of platform. So I think not only will we continue to engage with that existing player base, but we'll take next gen and see how far we can go with it."

    Last week, Call of Duty publisher Activision threw down the gauntlet, warning GTA dev Rockstar that Ghosts would be snatching back all the records GTA V has managed to accrue since it released. By the sounds of things, the franchise's fiercely loyal fanbase will be crucial if it's to succeed.

    Call of Duty: Ghosts is set to release on PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, PC and Wii U on November 5, with PlayStation 4 and Xbox One versions being available when the consoles launch.
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    What is so wrong in what they said?

    They are right.

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    More interesting to see if they can make good with trying to take on rockstar with its sales records

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    Quote Originally Posted by sainraja View Post
    What is so wrong in what they said?

    They are right.
    You think so? I duno maybe its just me but if you are someone that spends time playing video games of any variety on a regular basis then you are a gamer.

    I'm not a call of duty fan personally, but I wouldn't call someone that goes home every day after work and devotes a few hours or more to a COD title...not a gamer. My mother in law spends hours everyday playing facebook games. She's addicted to Candy Crush. I'd call her a gamer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sajuuk Khar View Post
    More interesting to see if they can make good with trying to take on rockstar with its sales records
    Probably will, but will it be due to over-hyping of PS4 and X1 or just it's a good game. Me personally I did like Black Ops 2, but not too fussed about this one because the last good COD game I played really was COD: 4 lol.

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    The meaning of "hardcore" game differs from person to person so to make a sweeping statement like that doesn't make much sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shepard View Post
    You think so? I duno maybe its just me but if you are someone that spends time playing video games of any variety on a regular basis then you are a gamer.

    I'm not a call of duty fan personally, but I wouldn't call someone that goes home every day after work and devotes a few hours or more to a COD title...not a gamer. My mother in law spends hours everyday playing facebook games. She's addicted to Candy Crush. I'd call her a gamer.
    Anyone that plays any type of game is a gamer. The distinction they were making was between casual and hardcore.

    They are basically talking about those people who play COD a lot (so you can mistake them as hardcare) when they are really not -- since they wouldn't really keep playing games if they didn't have COD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sainraja View Post
    Anyone that plays any type of game is a gamer. The distinction they were making was between casual and hardcore.
    Not true, he said: "They aren't hardcore gamers, or even gamers"

    The guy doesn't even acknowledge his playerbase as gamers at all....hardcore or otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shepard View Post
    Not true, he said: "They aren't hardcore gamers, or even gamers"

    The guy doesn't even acknowledge his playerbase as gamers at all....hardcore or otherwise.
    /sigh

    To say the millions of people who buy your game in record numbers every year even tho theres little real change every year by saying they are not gamers is insulting...

    You heard it from the horses mouth. COD players are not gamers.... XD
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    Lol cod has never been a hardcore game! Thank God the devs recognize that too.

    The gamers part? Ehhh that's a bit of a stretch lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by faaeng View Post
    /sigh

    To say the millions of people who buy your game in record numbers every year even tho theres little real change every year by saying they are not gamers is insulting...

    You heard it from the horses mouth. COD players are not gamers.... XD
    So true, and I might add, facebook games does not make you any gamer, there are no games on facebook.
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    Either way - I don't see how it should have any tangible effects on anyone how they're labelled (gamers I'm mainly talking about).

    I'll do it right now: I'm a 'Pineapple Paper Box Water Bottle' ​gamer. Done.

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    I guess the term gamer has been made to sound too exclusive, and more involved. We don't have a separate name for that in other fields. In truth mostly every person plays, reads, watches movies, listens to music etc. There are film buffs, bookworms, audiophiles though, but not for the casual person.

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    i kinda agree with mark rubin, i have more friends on my psn list that just play call of duty then anything else then the other way around. i mean hey they can play what they want, but rubin has a point imho. now to say they aren't hardcore gamers...well eeeeeehhh......thats speculative.

    in my eyes they are gamers, but "hardcore" shouldn't be in the discussion here



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    At least he's honest. :shrug:

    Black Ops II was my final COD. Just done with it, too many kids, idots, and try hards on there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shepard View Post
    Not true, he said: "They aren't hardcore gamers, or even gamers"

    The guy doesn't even acknowledge his playerbase as gamers at all....hardcore or otherwise.
    OK. I missed that, but still....the people he is talking about only play Call of Duty -- could be for any reason, it is a mainstream type of game. That's all they care about...

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    He's right. Yelling 12-year old kids who are stuck in puberty aren't gamers. In fact, I'd love if everyone under 16 wasn't allowed to play online.
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