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    I just think it reeks of $#@!ery that a console is struggling to deliver 720p games at a time when 1080p television sets are going to be bargain binned for 4K TVs in just a few years. MS was incredibly short-sighted when designing this console.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefein View Post
    I just think it reeks of $#@!ery that a console is struggling to deliver 720p games at a time when 1080p television sets are going to be bargain binned for 4K TVs in just a few years. MS was incredibly short-sighted when designing this console.
    Its a fundamental flaw somewhere.
    We aren't talking about a console struggling with rendering 720p/60. We are talking about a console "limited" to 720 regardless of what the hell you are drawing.

    NO one can tell me that COD and BF4 are even similar sort of pixel processing power (well clearly they aren't if BF4 is 900p on PS4).

    All other things being equal then COD should really be around 900p (with the assumption that they are pushing the PS4 to its max at 1080p in COD which I doubt).

    In other words their is an artificial ceiling being put on this GPU on the XBO.
    Software? hardware?, $#@!ed if I know, but its unacceptable to be saying that the new generation is 720p.

    That's what you said last gen MS.

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    The scary part is that GPU Compute Isn't even being used yet. Can you imagine the difference in visual fidelity in say the next Uncharted or whatever from Naughty Dog? Presumably they knew about the HW before any other dev studio.
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    thread title is now updated due to official announcement. Also.....



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    Quote Originally Posted by victorijapoosp View Post
    The scary part is that GPU Compute Isn't even being used yet. Can you imagine the difference in visual fidelity in say the next Uncharted or whatever from Naughty Dog? Presumably they knew about the HW before any other dev studio.
    I wouldn't frame it in quite those terms. I'm sure that the middleware running on PS4 is utilizing GPUCompute to some degree. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Havok, for instance, wasn't offloading a lot of stuff from the CPU.

    That being said, we are definitely barely scratching the surface with what the PS4 can do. Once games start coming out that have had a full and mature development cycle on final PS4 devkits, this generation will be truly under way.

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    I say it is just rushed ports. The PS4 is very easy to get up and running with minimal effort as they stated. If you are looking at 720p come the second round of games then I'd say you have a problem.

    Of course I'd easily lay the blame on designing the system with Kinect at the core.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrin8X View Post
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    Where is the official announcement?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrin8X View Post
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    Famousmortimer certainly has proven his street cred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    Where is the official announcement?
    http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rqqa5o

    Well, from the horse's mouth actually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kauldron View Post
    http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rqqa5o

    Well, from the horses mouth actually.
    P.S. I called he'd be the one to break the news

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Famousmortimer certainly has proven his street cred.
    So is the math famousmortimer > CBoat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    Where is the official announcement?
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kauldron View Post
    http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rqqa5o Well, from the horse's mouth actually.
    Boom.

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    Wow. For a game that is featured for X1, this isn't looking good for the near future.




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    NOW OFFICIAL: PS4 COD: GHOST is 1080P, Xbone 720P

    Quote Originally Posted by admartian View Post
    So is the math famousmortimer > CBoat?
    Currently yup.
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    I think the performance issues are a result of the multiple OS/hypervisor architecture. Really. You hear the same BS about performance being the same as on hardware with VDI and it's not true. You do take a performance hit. What I'm really worried about with the XB1 is how it will perform under load with a game and a bunch of apps being run in the background, etc. Not gonna be pretty, IMHO.

    Well, at least all the people saying that the hardware differences wouldn't result in any noticeable differences at launch can move on at this point. It was getting a little ridiculous. Efficiency and efficient code matters, of course, but there are few substitutes for raw power. We're seeing it here. Both consoles will get better over time and as devs get more comfortable with them. I really wonder by HOW MUCH though, given that both architectures are supposedly so PC like and generic now. Are there any "super secrets" left for programmers to discover that will bring magical results? I dunno...

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    well gaf is having a field day with this (im apart of that btw)

    like this little gem:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrin8X View Post
    well gaf is having a field day with this (im apart of that btw)

    like this little gem:

    What thread is that on..can you link it? I'm looking for stuff on GAF as I'm curious to see if anyone can talk about a technical reason for the disparity now....at least more than my own guesses on the subject!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Currently yup. @mistercrow - you are a bit late to the party. You have a life or something. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free
    Yeah that pesky thing called life gets in the way sometimes. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by jphuff View Post
    What thread is that on..can you link it? I'm looking for stuff on GAF as I'm curious to see if anyone can talk about a technical reason for the disparity now....at least more than my own guesses on the subject!
    http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=706779

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    Infinity Ward confirms... CoD is 720p on xbox one

    http://www.geek.com/games/infinity-w...x-one-1575665/


    OHH THE HUMANITY!!!

    Kinda bummed as I am getting a xbox one. I'm hoping this is a driver/bad dev tools thing. Not that I even own a 1080p tv at the moment but who wouldn't want the highest res possible for down the road.
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    Developer Issue with ESRAM = 720P

    Case Closed.....

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    All im seeing so far at the start of the next gen, its that its just the same of the last gen with some polish.....ive still got both pre orders live, but the more and more im seeing and hearing isnt filling me with confidence.

    maybe i set my inner bar too high

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    Quote Originally Posted by three3-times View Post
    All im seeing so far at the start of the next gen, its that its just the same of the last gen with some polish.....ive still got both pre orders live, but the more and more im seeing and hearing isnt filling me with confidence.

    maybe i set my inner bar too high
    Any multiplatform title that is on both current and next gen is going to be mostly just that. Res increase with a bit of polish. For a glimpse of next gen you really have to look at the exclusives at launch. They are designed with no concessions having to be made for the previous systems.

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