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    I have been thinking they rushed it in the first place. It sucks for the devs working on the games, they are the ones that need to put out sub par games, because of MS,s screwing around.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MATRIX 2 View Post
    Do you really believe that? Do you really think the 360 could bear year another year (9 total) before the X1 launched (presumably in the fall of 2014)? (remember the last big exclusive (halo 4) launched in december 2012) (similarly Halo 2 launched in November 2004, just over a year before the 360 launched)

    No, the hardware is fine. The problems have been with the OS/drivers. Having to make all the software changes, isn't as simple as "flipping a few switches" so to speak.

    And seeing as certain games have been delayed for a few months, it would see that it isn't just sony and microsoft that hare having issues.

    I don't really see how it even matters that much, if at all. This upcoming generation won't even properly start till this time in 2014 when we have certain titles being released.

    Not to mention, there is usually some kind of issue (or issues) present at launch. Last gen it had to do with the hardware (regarding reliability/malfunctions).

    This upcoming gen, it seems to be the OS/drivers and development tools.
    Yes, I really believe it. I never said anything about the hardware. I never said they were going to release it another year from now either.

    I think they were going to release it in April 2014. So, when they heard Sony releasing in Nov. they were scrambling to get their $#@! together, software wise, and it just hasn't been able to get done in such a shorter time than they were scheduling before.




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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    Yes, I really believe it. I never said anything about the hardware. I never said they were going to release it another year from now either.

    I think they were going to release it in April 2014. So, when they heard Sony releasing in Nov. they were scrambling to get their $#@! together, software wise, and it just hasn't been able to get done in such a shorter time than they were scheduling before.
    It's a similar situation that they did with the 360 at launch and one of the main reason it had the RRoD. It's just unfortunate that consumers need to pay for poor planning and mark position that doesn't effect them as gamers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Man Gamer View Post
    The thing that you need to remember is that NONE of this matters to the customer base that MS is after.

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    Which customer base is that exactly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sajuuk Khar View Post
    Which customer base is that exactly?
    The cloud dwellers ofc, rainbow kittens, unicorns, ect.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Man Gamer View Post
    The thing that you need to remember is that NONE of this matters to the customer base that MS is after.

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    I'm not sure that the X1 matters to the customer base MS is after......if that is even the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Man Gamer View Post
    The thing that you need to remember is that NONE of this matters to the customer base that MS is after.

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    yup, that fanbase that already belongs to nintendo.

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    no, that fan base have already moved on to their smartphones


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    Ok... I was wrong. Happy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Shafty- View Post
    no, that fan base have already moved on to their smartphones
    yep, they are on smartphones and tablets now, that ship has sailed, they should have looked at WiiU sales numbers to know that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Agriel View Post
    It's a similar situation that they did with the 360 at launch and one of the main reason it had the RRoD. It's just unfortunate that consumers need to pay for poor planning and mark position that doesn't effect them as gamers.
    So true , they need to pay, but not have to. Most of this base actually know which one is logical choice, in this case, it is PS4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shingo View Post
    So true , they need to pay, but not have to. Most of this base actually know which one is logical choice, in this case, it is PS4.
    You can't play the xbox one exclusives/first party on the pS4 .




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    This is what happens when you choose to be a jack of all trades and a master of none. It's Ok though, the console won't be marketed to those looking for a master as it wasn't designed for this demographic. It's only forum going enthusiasts who really care about max resolution and FPS anyway, so with MS's usual marketing, it will sail just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    You can't play the xbox one exclusives/first party on the pS4 .
    link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
    link?

    if the rumor is true and each game comes with its own OS, these machines are not so different, if modded properly you could very well be able to play them off the disc on to the PS4. When it get jailbroken


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    Quote Originally Posted by -Shafty- View Post
    no, that fan base have already moved on to their smartphones

    ahh ok i am corrected

    so this fan base is nothing more than an illusion

    drugs are a very powerful thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    This is what happens when you choose to be a jack of all trades and a master of none. It's Ok though, the console won't be marketed to those looking for a master as it wasn't designed for this demographic. It's only forum going enthusiasts who really care about max resolution and FPS anyway, so with MS's usual marketing, it will sail just fine.
    And a fair whack of launch sales are due to the enthusiasts. Who else is willing to spend top dollar for hardware that has a limited selection of software ( more of a point of view on any console, not the X1). MS is going to have to do some very broad and highly motivational advertising to bring in casuals/cable subscribers or who ever else they are aiming the system at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    Yes, I really believe it. I never said anything about the hardware. I never said they were going to release it another year from now either.

    I think they were going to release it in April 2014. So, when they heard Sony releasing in Nov. they were scrambling to get their $#@! together, software wise, and it just hasn't been able to get done in such a shorter time than they were scheduling before.
    April 2014? Why would they release near the period of slow months for videogames and miss out on the holiday shoppers? Doesn't make much sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Agriel View Post
    It's a similar situation that they did with the 360 at launch and one of the main reason it had the RRoD. It's just unfortunate that consumers need to pay for poor planning and mark position that doesn't effect them as gamers.
    #1 are you really equating software issues to hardware issues?

    #2 Do you even know what the main cause of the RROD was? It wasn't actually something that a quick change could fix.

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    Like i said, these games won't have 720p resolution...

    It's 1.28k resolution, hell, that's 1.3K.
    It's K, like 4K, not small like 720p.
    Spindoctors at work.

    And the XBONE has 32megs more RAM than the PS4 as well.

    And it comes with the NFL, so you can watch football games, on your own TV, using your own Cable Box, but ON the XBONE featuring adjustable screen sizes (smaller) and sports aps (like the sports apps on my X1 Xfinity box).

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    You forgot "balanced"

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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    You can't play the xbox one exclusives/first party on the pS4 .
    And you cant play PS4 exclusives/first party on the X1. Diffrence is that alot of MS "exclusives" end up on the Playstation later down the road often times with all the DLC included on the disc. MS doesn't exactly have an abundance of first party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demi_God View Post
    Everytime I see Don Mattrick, I always get the urge to punch his face. If I knew for a fact I wouldn't get sued for a ton of money and I was looking at him face to face, I would punch his stupid looking face.
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