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    no not that, but I will just leave it at this. but please continue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by admartian View Post
    We'll see matey.

    Either way - what does it mean now? Sony shut up shop?
    I don't think 3 months from now we will care, but it really is not cool to piss off the media. Why do this? What does it gain Sony? Nothing really.

    P.S. Beer is suggesting via Twitter the next episode of annoyed gamer he will be very annoyed. Should make for interesting viewing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    I don't think 3 months from now we will care, but it really is not cool to piss off the media. Why do this? What does it gain Sony? Nothing really.
    Guaranteed 10/10 scores from the only one website allowed to review it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldierboy View Post
    Guaranteed 10/10 scores from the only one website allowed to review it?
    LOL. That made me laugh.

    Beer is now suggesting its more about being in a controlled environment. I wish these journos would make up their mind about what they are pissed about.

    Edit: Oh Demi, you dont like the post?

    Just for you:

    Let me clarify 1 thing, it's not about "video capture issues", it's about evaluating things in staged environments. Don't trust staged $#@!.
    If I am to comment on a game or system, I need to install/ set up said product myself. Don't let me do it? I get mighty suspicious.
    If it is just that, fark get over it Beer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by admartian View Post
    We'll see matey. Either way - what does it mean now? Sony shut up shop?
    Preorder cancelled. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    LOL. That made me laugh.

    Beer is now suggesting its more about being in a controlled environment. I wish these journos would make up their mind about what they are pissed about.

    Edit: Oh Demi, you dont like the post?

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    If it is just that, fark get over it Beer.
    so don't trust staged $#@! even if it comes from Microsoft and Nintendo, or is it just sony?

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    LOL....Welcome to the corperate world Adam. Most of us that have worked in huge companies are used to them tightly controlling everything. I'm sorry Mr. Video Game reviewer that the world doesn't revolve around you and you trying to stay relevant. Fact is a ton of these reviewers feel the pressure because the only advantage they have over independent reviewers who are far more articulate and just as informing out there on youtube and game sharing sites is the fact that the formal media have exclusive access to these companies...oh my goodness you mean you will have to review it like everyone else....awww. People get soo soo uptight in these console release years. It's the same feeling you get in an election year. To not have access to post video from the console isn't a big deal. Sony has plenty of clips and the companies can provide these guys whatever they want if its relevant to their article but I don't feel bad if Sony's #1 priority isn't about making ways easier for every little twerp that wants to do a video review. I play games...I don't listen to some self-proclaimed video game expert to base my opinions. Honestly I wouldn't miss any of them. This isn't going to go past launch so they just need to get over themselves...none of us care nor feel sorry for them. Sony just keep focusing on having this thing work good at launch and make the best games you can. Aaron Sesslar or whatever his name is needs to realize he is pretty much a glorified Gamestop employee...and the farthest thing from a reporter there is. I got more respect for my trash man then him....which reminds me I need to tip him for picking up those extra bags of lawn clippings.

    Edit...sorry had his name right first time..Adam Sesslar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Sessler tweeted that he was "surly" over some events that had happened, and that he now may have to look for a new job somewhere else
    He then tweeted it had nothing to do with the his employees, or XBO or the whole res thing, and was waiting to here back for clarification from the company in question.

    Adam Dent eventually spilled the beans on gaf that only one reviewing outfit (my guess is IGN), has access to a PS4 debug kit, which will allow for video capture unimpeeded. Everybody else cant do any post processing on any video.
    In short, no one can do video reviews with actual in game video until the HDMI encryption thing is removed.
    Who is Adam Dent? are you inventing people now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bligmerk View Post
    You people do realize Sessler is an actor paid to appear to be a video game player? When he started at G4, he could barely hold a controller. He was a cable TV host and editor of X-Play. He is ranting about finding another job because he never was a gamer, and with no contract, things might be looking kind of shaky. There wasn't any chance he was going to get a debug unit anyway, and Sony said the HDCP encryption for games was going to be removed.
    Exactly. I remember an interview about how he "fell into video games".

    He was a jobbing actor after his english degree from university and decided to audition for cable TV show, eventually landing at G4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demi_God View Post
    so don't trust staged $#@! even if it comes from Microsoft and Nintendo, or is it just sony?
    I don't know, I'm more confused than ever. I guess his next Annoyed Gamer will clarify things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by victorijapoosp View Post
    Who is Adam Dent? are you inventing people now?
    Probably, Arthur Dent then?

    Hell I cant tell a Phill from a Phill.

    Kevin Dent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    LOL. That made me laugh.

    Beer is now suggesting its more about being in a controlled environment. I wish these journos would make up their mind about what they are pissed about.

    Edit: Oh Demi, you dont like the post?

    Just for you:





    If it is just that, fark get over it Beer.
    Lol i swear you want to see what you want to see. Go see my first post where I specifically told you the whole thing was about being invited to review the games in a controlled setting!

    But noooo you wanted to believe it was about ps4 being HDCP locked

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    Quote Originally Posted by victorijapoosp View Post
    Who is Adam Dent? are you inventing people now?



    Exactly. I remember an interview about how he "fell into video games".

    He was a jobbing actor after his english degree from university and decided to audition for cable TV show, eventually landing at G4.
    Ohhh....now I have much more respect for him. He was a crappy actor telling me what I supposedly need to know about games. Gotcha!! That changes everything...get this man a working console stat!!! We don't need another unemployed actor waiting tables at Olive Garden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungMullah88 View Post
    Lol i swear you want to see what you want to see. Go see my first post where I specifically told you the whole thing was about being invited to review the games in a controlled setting!

    But noooo you wanted to believe it was about ps4 being HDCP locked

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    I think we will just have to wait and see what happens. The upshot is, more than one journalist is pissed..at something other than the XBO....

    Makes a change.

    Beer did say it wasn't the controlled environment in his post at Gaf.

    What these boys really need to do is pick a subject to be pissed about and stick to it.
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    Mate we just don't what the end game is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by admartian View Post
    Mate we just don't what the end game is.

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    Uhh hmmm....

    What?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Here are the tweets.



















    They are still all there.
    I see, when I glanced over, I was expecting something more.

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    Wtf is going on here! I'm beyond confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ps3freak18 View Post
    Wtf is going on here! I'm beyond confused.

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    Nobody really knows....journalists upset about multiple things or one thing or something.
    All we really know is more than one journo is pissed off.


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    All these "Journalists" get upset at the same time it's revealed how crippled the Xbone is?

    Just a coincidence.

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    Well they do have a PS4 at Adem's workplace because Tara Long at Rev3 said that she's been reviewing a PS4 game for the past few weeks. Its right at the beginning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Here are the tweets.



















    They are still all there.

    Well, based on these tweets, if the issue is Sony not having review units out until 2 days before launch, I'd say this IS an "over reaction." After all, how would THAT "affect the livelihood" of Mr. Sessler and his colleagues, at least to the point where he or they may need to find a new career? I mean, that's just a delay but then going forward they'd be fine. ??

    No, if that's the issue then it's definitely over reacting. I would say the issue is something else, otherwise they're just being silly jumping up and down about this. Maybe it's a new review POLICY from Sony that will affect how reviewers have to do things? THAT might have some affect on game journo's jobs...although I still hardly can see how that might make them need to find a new career.

    So I'm betting that it IS just a bunch of extra noise about not much at all. Maybe it even IS an attempt to distract from all the bad MS press right now, although I doubt it. Some of these folk are just high strung, pure and simple so I'm betting that's it. No conspiracy and in the end, really no big deal. Just some kind of mistake on Sony's end.

    I am surprised though as IGN has a debug unit and has had it for a while. Makes me think that MAYBE a career affecting change might be that Sony won't give out debug units to sites unless they fulfill certain requirements maybe? THAT would limit some current sites that have had that kind of equipment in the past and could ultimately affect their careers when their competitors DO have access to the hardware. Oh well, we'll see. I'm still betting that it's much ado over nothing.

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    He is butt hurt that Sony will no longer give small sites and journalists free consoles. I don't blame them. Sessler is irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    How did it spread, through twitter, these guys are under NDA's they cant sya exactly what is going on for fear of not getting any thing to review form Sony, bit that latest thing form Beer makes it far worse than simply vidoe capture restrictions.

    You now have:

    1/ Sony not allowing reviews to post actual footage of the game they were playing.

    2/Not allowing review consoles to arrive till 2 days before the console launches.

    That's either

    1/ a pretty god aweful way to try and control the video press.

    2/ Simply a collosal $#@! up in the Sony PR department.

    Either way, its hardly an overreaction
    So, Sony chose to gather all of the major media outlets to its 2 day review event instead of sending out consoles it seems. Who knows what the reason for this is, could be because of the patch that's needed or the current state of the console, who knows. Youtubers weren't invited to this event and as Sessler is mainly a YT personality these days, I'm assuming he wasn't invited?

    In any event, this is an overreaction. While it's not perfect, I don't think it warrants the bunched panties that it seems to be causing. Beer is hardly any kind of meter to the situation. The console supports free 15 mins of game recording and has an HDMI out, so people will be able to capture video when Sony opens the port. It's not the apocalypse!
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