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    Quote Originally Posted by $Greatness$ View Post
    This is the $#@! I'm talking about. We as gamers have to put a stop to this bull$#@!. I hate Microsoft, that isn't a secret, but this could've very well happened to Sony as well. We need to tell these $#@!suckas to put out standard and efficient equipment and stop $#@!ing us like everything will be OK. Day one patches, broken promises that will be 'fixed' months down the line. $#@! all that noise. We're spending $400-600 on hardware, games and accessories. This $#@! has to stop and we have to be the ones who put a stop to it. We already gave them an inch and they've taken MILES. If this is indeed true, that sucks for MS gamers and Gamers in-general.
    You think this only happens in the video game market? Lol. This happens in many consumer goods markets.

    Here's the key. Don't be an early adopter. Wait 6-8 months for bugs to be worked out. The games aren't going anywhere. You can still buy them next year. In fact you'll danger a few bucks on the games.

    Everyone is acting like the world will end of everything doesn't work 100% perfect on day one. Guess what. The One AND PS4 ate going to have hiccups out of the box. With everything that these consoles can do it's bound to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sajuuk Khar View Post
    So then the logical thing to do is provide a video that shows we haven't really seen the OS in real life?

    Using an unsubstantiated video to disprove a rumor get you no where.
    That video was released by MS after the rumors about it's OS popped up. That is the OS in real life. The OS has been shown several time before that too. Believe what you want though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    Believe what you want though.
    And same to you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    That video was released by MS after the rumors about it's OS popped up. That is the OS in real life. The OS has been shown several time before that too. Believe what you want though.
    In a way I would almost like to see MS fail. With them out of the way Sony would have no competition and then we'll see their real colors.

    They're only playing nice with gamers because they have no choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Man Gamer View Post
    In a way I would almost like to see MS fail. With them out of the way Sony would have no competition and then we'll see their real colors.

    They're only playing nice with gamers because they have no choice.

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    Either company, no competition means they are unrestricted in their policies and they will screw over all of us.

    Competition is what drives pricing and features. For sure, if one or the other failed, the gaming industry would suffer tremendously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sajuuk Khar View Post
    And same to you
    Absolutely. I can only go by what i've seen. I will trust that over rumors any day.

    Quote Originally Posted by Old Man Gamer View Post
    In a way I would almost like to see MS fail. With them out of the way Sony would have no competition and then we'll see their real colors.

    They're only playing nice with gamers because they have no choice.

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    I think some people just need to grow up. All this rooting for one or the others doom is ridiculous because it's not gonna happen. Console gamers have a tendency to always blow things out of proportion.
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    ^ you say that after the $#@! hit the fan and sprayed on some of you guys.
    Quote Originally Posted by Old Man Gamer View Post
    In a way I would almost like to see MS fail. With them out of the way Sony would have no competition and then we'll see their real colors.

    They're only playing nice with gamers because they have no choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuguy View Post
    Either company, no competition means they are unrestricted in their policies and they will screw over all of us.

    Competition is what drives pricing and features. For sure, if one or the other failed, the gaming industry would suffer tremendously.
    I don't care about none of that jazz.

    The ps2 dominated and had tons of games. PS4 would be fine along with the industry.

    PS5 is what I'd be worried about...as in sony going back to the ps3 launch era/xbone drm brief era. But I'd doubt that would happen. New people are in charge of things and they've seen that customers won't settle just for any bs(twice).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    ^ you say that after the $#@! hit the fan and sprayed on some of you guys.
    I don't care about none of that jazz.

    The ps2 dominated and had tons of games. PS4 would be fine along with the industry.

    PS5 is what I'd be worried about...as in sony going back to the ps3 launch era/xbone drm brief era.
    That's exactly what i mean right there. There is nothing going on that's any different than any other console gen. Just the same old fanboy stuff. Nothing but unproven rumors and gossip passed back and forth among the forums. People are too busy trying to defend their choice to realize that both consoles are more alike than different. Buy what you want and don't worry about anyone else's choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    That's exactly what i mean right there. There is nothing going on that's any different than any other console gen. Just the same old fanboy stuff. Nothing but unproven rumors and gossip passed back and forth among the forums. People are too busy trying to defend their choice to realize that both consoles are more alike than different. Buy what you want and don't worry about anyone else's choice.
    edit:not needed

    Some of the stuff people consider "fanboyism" isn't what it seem. It's just that that person is upset about another person's opinion on their system of choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuguy View Post
    Either company, no competition means they are unrestricted in their policies and they will screw over all of us.

    Competition is what drives pricing and features. For sure, if one or the other failed, the gaming industry would suffer tremendously.
    But that's the thing. MS is so they are. Sony is the one that would change their colors. They have before and they would again given the chance. Some here won't ever belive it until it happens again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Man Gamer View Post
    But that's the thing. MS is so they are. Sony is the one that would change their colors. They have before and they would again given the chance. Some here won't ever belive it until it happens again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    Why are you so upset that Sony changed their ways?
    I'm not upset at all. I just think it's funny that some here think they did it out of the goodness of their heart. MS forced then to do it with competition.

    There are some here that think they are angels. I'd like them to see the truth. They're like any other corporation. They do what they have to and get away with what they can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Man Gamer View Post
    You think this only happens in the video game market? Lol. This happens in many consumer goods markets. Here's the key. Don't be an early adopter. Wait 6-8 months for bugs to be worked out. The games aren't going anywhere. You can still buy them next year. In fact you'll danger a few bucks on the games. Everyone is acting like the world will end of everything doesn't work 100% perfect on day one. Guess what. The One AND PS4 ate going to have hiccups out of the box. With everything that these consoles can do it's bound to happen. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk
    Yep goes with being an early adopter. Buying day one is not for the faint of heart. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistercrow View Post
    Yep goes with being an early adopter. Buying day one is not for the faint of heart. lol
    I've been an early adopter of some early Android phones. It's much better now but there are always some issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Man Gamer View Post
    I've been an early adopter of some early Android phones. It's much better now but there are always some issues. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk
    Yep, very true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    ^ you say that after the $#@! hit the fan and sprayed on some of you guys.
    I don't care about none of that jazz.

    The ps2 dominated and had tons of games. PS4 would be fine along with the industry.

    PS5 is what I'd be worried about...as in sony going back to the ps3 launch era/xbone drm brief era. But I'd doubt that would happen. New people are in charge of things and they've seen that customers won't settle just for any bs(twice).
    PS5 will be DD only, with drm up the wazoo. mark my words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MATRIX 2 View Post
    PS5 will be DD only, with drm up the wazoo. mark my words.
    By the time PS5 is out there won't be any physical media anywhere. Not for movies, games, music, anything. And DRM? lol....of course there will be plenty of DRM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MATRIX 2 View Post
    PS5 will be DD only, with drm up the wazoo. mark my words.
    only if you cross your fingers, close your eyes and make a wish really hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
    By the time PS5 is out there won't be any physical media anywhere. Not for movies, games, music, anything. And DRM? lol....of course there will be plenty of DRM.
    Well, apparently you have 2 deniers in this thread. See above and below.

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    Quote Originally Posted by victorijapoosp View Post
    only if you cross your fingers, close your eyes and make a wish really hard.
    More like... it's the logical outcome based on current technological trends. Home broadband needs to really improve by next gen for this to be a possibility, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MATRIX 2 View Post
    Well, apparently you have 2 deniers in this thread. See above and below.



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    That's fine. We don't agree often, but I agree with you on this. I'd even go so far to say blu-ray will be the last physical format for games and movies. Eventually it phase out just like VHS and DD/streaming will take over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    editt needed

    Some of the stuff people consider "fanboyism" isn't what it seem. It's just that that person is upset about another person's opinion on their system of choice.
    I doubt that. The majority of most discussions leads to it. It's all over the web.


    Quote Originally Posted by Old Man Gamer View Post
    I'm not upset at all. I just think it's funny that some here think they did it out of the goodness of their heart. MS forced then to do it with competition.

    There are some here that think they are angels. I'd like them to see the truth. They're like any other corporation. They do what they have to and get away with what they can.

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    I agree. They both have the same goal, and that's to get their product into people's homes.
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