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    every reviewer who has played the two versions of the game says that the PS4 version looked better.

    I really don't know how DF thought they could get away without a disclaimer in the first article. But it's what we've come to expect from Leadbitter.

    This barrage of bull from DF for the last 8 months has really knocked their credibility...

    I don't know man it's like he wants revenge because Sony had an affair with his wife and got her pregnant with a baby vita or something.
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    Maths is biased! It keeps telling me the PS4 is 50% more powerful than XboxOne!
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    I've always put DF and lens of truth in the same boat when it comes to comparisons. They always do a piss poor job at it. Because everytime whenever LoT or DF do comparisons, one version always has this weird haze. When actually playing the game, that weird haze is never there, but only for their comparisons. LOL

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    Personally I love the look of black crush, can't get enough of it. Sometimes I watch The Dark Knight with my tv's powersave setting on, the contrast maxed out and and the back light turned way down. Even in the daytime scenes batman could be in any of those shadows and you would never know, it's very exciting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    God they really $#@!ed up those gamma settings.

    And why doe sthe PS4 version have completly different camo to the other two?
    That was my first thought. Those Gamma' are hiding alot of good detail!

    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Isn't JF only on youtube though? Or does he have another place to watch his videos?

    Also he is the only one who has had access to DICE, everyone else had access only at the review event. So he likely had far more time to calibrate his gear.



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    Footage definitely looks better all around.



    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Question now is. Is this really cause of
    the esram (which i find hard to believe) or the GPU? That missing AO would point to something more that supposed deficit in GPU power. I dunno as I have said elsewhere, somethings really not right between the theoreticals and whats really happening.

    On another note I just realised, BF4 is apparently just "ok" according to the critics actual reviews.


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    This game is stretched across alot of platforms.
    Lets see how NBA 2K14 does as it's Next Gen version was worked on as a separate beast and has a new ground up engine. It could be a case of the engine needing some things tweaked for large open world games. It seems to do wonders on both versions of FIFA.
    Is there any new footage of Destiny for both systems we can look at? I'm sure Bungie is pushing boundaries on both machines.
    It could be that Frostbite 3 on XBO needs some serious tweaks for certain kinds of high bandwidth events, like large open worlds.
    Dunno.

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    Anyone that wants a 360 shouldnt be discouraged by this anyway.

    I was a ps3 owner only this gen and I knew 360 was getting slightly better multiplats and it didnt bother me a bit. Now if the game is broken thats a different story.



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    Quote Originally Posted by roy8846 View Post
    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...-4-face-off-qa

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    EA provided Elgato Game Capture HD consumer-level devices at the Stockholm event. They're great little units but they are unsuitable for DF work because they cannot acquire 1080p at 60 frames per second and they do not provide lossless video. The reason they do not show crushed blacks on Xbox One is because they operate at limited range RGB (16-235) and the XO dashes were set accordingly. We are told that the current Xbox One appears to be fine operating in limited range RGB, so this is a good match for the unit. We also know that both PS4 and XO hardware at the EA event was set by default to limited range RGB, so other attendees were good to go straight off the bat while we had to make changes to suit our more specialised equipment.
    Ohhhhh..well that makes sense then.
    16-255 vs 0-255 willl crush your blacks.

    At least it aint that dam Xenon gamma curve.

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    Rather despicable of Leadbitter throwing their "New Freelancer" under the bus though. They made a mistake on the captured video, they knew they hadn't calibrated the xbox video Colour range properly and that the pictures did not accurately represent the footage displayed on the TV screen. Yet went ahead with it anyway. Eventhough this renders the comparison null and void because it no longer compares like for like.

    Full range RGB for PC, Full Range for PS4, both look "washed out" when captured vs XBOne limited range RGB give you DARKER image due it being unable to render the subtler shades so gives you a harsher contrast making the picture "POP" plus a sharpness filter. This is basically [analogy time] going to PC world and seeing 2 identical TVs one that is on the garsish "dynamic/VIVID" default instore setting with extra sharpness playing 720p video, vs a properly calibrated tv set playing 1080p. Instore the 720p could look better due to the conditions of the store's lighting etc, where the details are lost but wow POPS OUT catches your eye. vs in your living room were the calibrated set with 1080p video would look much better because there isn't a silly spotlight aimed at the TV.

    When videos are compressed to youtube the subtleties and smaller details are lost on all platforms, On the PS4 and PC this leads to softer image on YT, But on the XBONE there were less details to begin with so the compression affects it less, thus it looks sharper after this compression due to the contrast, limited RGB and extra sharpness filter.

    John Linneman [DF employee] AKA Dark10x on neogaf tried to help Leadbitter by explaining that it was a work flow error, which it was.

    As soon as they realised the issue, they should have stopped the comparison and sought out better footage, regardless of the time it would have taken.

    But Leadbitter is too Pig headed and egotistical to admit his mistake. Instead he is in denial and says that he will carry on using the the same compromised video assets from that event. DF stinks at the moment, they were anxious to get the clicks, rather than do their job properly. Now Leadbitter has been caught with his pants down and throws his colleague under the metaphorical bus. Not a nice way to treat your employees.
    Last edited by victorijapoosp; 10-29-2013 at 23:46.
    Maths is biased! It keeps telling me the PS4 is 50% more powerful than XboxOne!
    Great song, should have more views :'(

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    http://i.imgur.com/bP50xuM.png

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedOrb_Collector View Post
    Wow. Huge difference.



    Anyway, the game doesn't look anywhere near as good as Shadow Fall from what I'm seeing.
    There's alot more going on in battlefield 4 then Killzone

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Luv_2_Game View Post
    There's alot more going on in battlefield 4 then Killzone
    More importantly it is a cross-gen title and I should also add it has been majorly rushed.
    4 hour game with graphics that barely improved on PC from BF3>BF4.

    The game just sucks all over, they could have done a much better job but sacrificed everything for it to be at launch. Really they should have just called it BF3.5 and included BF3 with it.

    Title does not look to be worth the money they are asking.

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    I knew something was up when I saw the pc version

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    Still from Gametrailers video.

    Maths is biased! It keeps telling me the PS4 is 50% more powerful than XboxOne!
    Great song, should have more views :'(

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    http://i.imgur.com/bP50xuM.png

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Ohhhhh..well that makes sense then.
    16-255 vs 0-255 willl crush your blacks.

    At least it aint that dam Xenon gamma curve.
    3 generations in a row, wouldn't surprise me if it was the gamma curve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by victorijapoosp View Post
    Rather despicable of Leadbitter throwing their "New Freelancer" under the bus though. They made a mistake on the captured video, they knew they hadn't calibrated the xbox video Colour range properly and that the pictures did not accurately represent the footage displayed on the TV screen. Yet went ahead with it anyway. Eventhough this renders the comparison null and void because it no longer compares like for like.

    Full range RGB for PC, Full Range for PS4, both look "washed out" when captured vs XBOne limited range RGB give you DARKER image due it being unable to render the subtler shades so gives you a harsher contrast making the picture "POP" plus a sharpness filter. This is basically [analogy time] going to PC world and seeing 2 identical TVs one that is on the garsish "dynamic/VIVID" default instore setting with extra sharpness playing 720p video, vs a properly calibrated tv set playing 1080p. Instore the 720p could look better due to the conditions of the store's lighting etc, where the details are lost but wow POPS OUT catches your eye. vs in your living room were the calibrated set with 1080p video would look much better because there isn't a silly spotlight aimed at the TV.

    When videos are compressed to youtube the subtleties and smaller details are lost on all platforms, On the PS4 and PC this leads to softer image on YT, But on the XBONE there were less details to begin with so the compression affects it less, thus it looks sharper after this compression due to the contrast, limited RGB and extra sharpness filter.

    John Linneman [DF employee] AKA Dark10x on neogaf tried to help Leadbitter by explaining that it was a work flow error, which it was.

    As soon as they realised the issue, they should have stopped the comparison and sought out better footage, regardless of the time it would have taken.

    But Leadbitter is too Pig headed and egotistical to admit his mistake. Instead he is in denial and says that he will carry on using the the same compromised video assets from that event. DF stinks at the moment, they were anxious to get the clicks, rather than do their job properly. Now Leadbitter has been caught with his pants down and throws his colleague under the metaphorical bus. Not a nice way to treat your employees.
    well said
    he's a piece of $#@! and a corporate apologist


    so these pics pretty much sum up the differences between both versions

    Xbone BF4:



    PS4 BF4:

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    So what we have is what exactly.

    Everybody else used EA provided capture cards, which all means they recorded in 720p, with 16-255 on.
    DF captured at 1080p with 0-255 on.
    JF did is own dam thing and probably caught everything perfectly.

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    JF used the provided Elgato, at the review i think. look at the gametrailers video, its very clear. DF just $#@!ed up.
    BTW i think Limited RGB is 16-235 not 16-255.




    Literally. That's all DF do, That's it. astonishing incompetence. Or a dastardly maneuver. Going by Leadbitter recent history... Well...
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    Maths is biased! It keeps telling me the PS4 is 50% more powerful than XboxOne!
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    Quote Originally Posted by victorijapoosp View Post
    JF used the provided Elgato, at the review i think. look at the gametrailers video, its very clear. DF just $#@!ed up.
    BTW i think Limited RGB is [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YUV[/URL] not 16-255.




    Literally. That's all DF do, That's it. astonishing incompetence. Or a dastardly maneuver. Going by Leadbitter recent history... Well...
    I'm sure PlayStation 3 games have always had low contrast/washed out look in DF comparisons and people always called them out on it but got dismissed untill recently where PS3 games are noticeable better regardless, was Leadbitter behind those older comparisons too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickice View Post
    3 generations in a row, wouldn't surprise me if it was the gamma curve.
    Xenon gamma curve was quite unique, hopefully no hardware will ever reproduce that mistake.
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    DF's not the only one. IGN, DF, and Videogamer all got different results.
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    It this what the 50 percent more powerful console bring?

    http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/media...3/original.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by FightingSmile64 View Post
    It this what the 50 percent more powerful console bring?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FightingSmile64 View Post
    It this what the 50 percent more powerful console bring?

    http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/media...3/original.jpg
    Nope, it brings about 50% higher resulotion and a higher average in FPS, better IQ and much closer to the PC version. Try to atleast read what seriuos gamers that have played it says.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PBM View Post
    I feel like this was a stupid comparison and will be eagerly awaiting a comparison of the final retail versions by a different source. There's a lot of conflicting information and the uncalibrated setups was just stupid. Calibration is a requirement for anything HD.
    I liked your post because I like cats...but I agree with your post too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
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