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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    I say leave it how it is now. It doesn't cause any disruption, it's easy to navigate, and extremely easy to find categories of your interest without having to sort through other content.

    Honestly, just leave it the way it is.
    There is always room for improvement. It's easy to say something is easy to navigate and find stuff on when you've been using it for a while.

    But yeah, if the current set-up works, then we don't need to change it. Specially if it isn't causing any problems.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenix View Post
    Agreed. Any changes done is pretty much just change for the sake of change.
    I don't think that's fair to say. People are trying to put some thought into it. Change for the sake of change would be to just go ahead and change it and see what happens.
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    Does Nintendo and PC even get enough threads to warrant there own categories?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenix View Post
    Does Nintendo and PC even get enough threads to warrant there own categories?
    Ixion brought that point up earlier. That type of layout may not work as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    It's not for the sake of change, it's for the sake of growth. New sections are coming and I think there need to be a few minor adjustments made to accommodate these.
    I'll add the new sections to my fake site and let you look at it from an actual forum state.
    Quote Originally Posted by sainraja View Post
    There is always room for improvement. It's easy to say something is easy to navigate and find stuff on when you've been using it for a while.

    But yeah, if the current set-up works, then we don't need to change it. Specially if it isn't causing any problems.



    I don't think that's fair to say. People are trying to put some thought into it. Change for the sake of change would be to just go ahead and change it and see what happens.
    You seriously don't have to have been using these forums for a while for it to be super easy to find information on the PS4, the PS Vita content, the Xbox One content, etc.




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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    You seriously don't have to have been using these forums for a while for it to be super easy to find information on the PS4, the PS Vita content, the Xbox One content, etc.
    No one is saying it is super-complicated right now. That doesn't mean it can't be improved. The main forum page is pretty overwhelming at first glance. You think it's easy, you've also been here a while.

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    I put the PSU media in, well, the PSU section. That makes more sense since it's actually site specific.

    Added the Community Gaming section, and put Twitch TV on there. Also put the Community reviews/opinion section in there too since it fits just nicely under the name of the category.
    Kept the Forum/sub-f of system/games for the consoles.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sainraja View Post
    No one is saying it is super-complicated right now. That doesn't mean it can't be improved. The main forum page is pretty overwhelming at first glance. You think it's easy, you've also been here a while.
    It isn't overwhelming at all. Since you posted that I asked my daughter, 12 years old, who hasn't ever been on these forums.... to come find something. I asked her what she likes the most, and she said, of course, Pokemon. I told her to find a discussion about Pokemon. She opened the page via bookmark, scrolled down, clicked on the Nintendo section, and went to the first thread in the section; Pokemon X/Y.

    It can't be any easier by grouping more things together. I asked her if there was a problem. She said the Nintendo words were smaller than the other, so she had to look a little closer. Hmm...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varsh View Post
    Code:
    Community
    -> Announcements
    -> Forum Rules, Help and Feedback
    ---> Infractions and Bans
    ---> Introductions
    -> Reviews and Opinions
    Sony
    -> Playstation 4
    ---> Games
    ------> [popular game franchises]
    -> Playstation 3
    ---> Games
    ------> [popular game franchises]
    -> Playstation Vita
    -> Playstation Legacy (PS1, PS2, PSP)
    -> Sony Entertainment Network (PSN)
    Other
    -> Microsoft Xbox One
    ---> Legacy (Xbox, X360)
    -> Nintendo Wii U
    ---> Legacy (everything else of theirs)
    -> PCs
    ---> OSs
    -> Other gaming devices
    General
    -> Off-Topic
    ---> Movies
    ---> Sports
    ---> Technology
    -> Graphics and Art
    ---> Requests
    That's a pretty good layout, but it doesn't include some of the new sections that PSU wants in there.

    I would tweak it to this:

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    Community
    -> Announcements
    -> Forum Rules, Help and Feedback
    ---> Infractions and Bans
    -> Reviews and Opinions
    -> PSU Media Content
    ---> PlayStation Community Question Of The Week
    ---> PSUTube
    ---> PlayStation Unchained Podcast 
    ---> PSU Live Streaming
    PlayStation
    -> PlayStation 4
    -> PlayStation 4 Games
    ----> Popular game franchises
    -> PlayStation 3
    -> PlayStation Vita
    -> PlayStation Legacy
    -> PlayStation Network
    Other
    -> Xbox One
    ---> Xbox Legacy
    -> Nintendo
    -> PC
    -> Other Gaming
    General
    -> Off-Topic
    ---> Movies
    ---> Sports
    ---> Technology
    ---> Forum Games
    -> Graphics and Art
    ---> Requests

    Condensed, it would look like this:

    Code:
    Community
    -> Announcements
    -> Forum Rules, Help and Feedback
    -> Reviews & Opinions
    -> PSU Media Content
    PlayStation
    -> PlayStation 4
    -> PlayStation 4 Games
    -> PlayStation 3
    -> PlayStation Vita
    -> PlayStation Legacy
    -> PlayStation Network
    Other
    -> Xbox One
    -> Nintendo
    -> PC
    -> Other Gaming
    General
    -> Off-Topic
    -> Graphics and Art


    Quote Originally Posted by Fenix View Post
    Agreed. Any changes done is pretty much just change for the sake of change.
    The current layout may be fine, but why not make it better? Attention to detail!
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    I like this:

    Other
    -> Xbox One
    ---> Xbox Legacy
    -> Nintendo Wii U
    ---> Nintendo Legacy
    -> PC
    -> Other Gaming

    However, I see the Vs section has gone? This should be done away with IYO?

    Also, I think that Twitch TV ought to be in the forum title, perhaps:

    PSU Twitch TV Streaming Sheduel
    --> Community Streaming Sheduels

    But I'd have to talk to Steven about that. This section has to be up by Monday at the latest. Also, Community gaming (aka clan gaming)? Trophies?
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    The way I have it, it's under PSU Community Gaming, so adding PSU to the Twitch label would be a little redundant.

    Look at the layout i put up and tell me what you think of that.

    I wouldn't put Xbox under Other. I wouldn't add Legacy to either the Xbox or Nintendo. There aren't any active legacy type systems for them. Xbox and Gameboy?? Nah..




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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    The way I have it, it's under PSU Community Gaming, so adding PSU to the Twitch label would be a little redundant.

    Look at the layout i put up and tell me what you think of that.

    I wouldn't put Xbox under Other. I wouldn't add Legacy to either the Xbox or Nintendo. There aren't any active legacy type systems for them. Xbox and Gameboy?? Nah..
    By community gaming, I mean a HUB for people to form clans and hook up for multiplayer gaming. I want the site to have organised info on who likes to play what and a focal point for people to arrange this. I'm already looking into this with the Boys n Warhawk guys. So yeah, when I say community gaming, I mean us guys playing togther more.

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    Forgot about the newer additions to the site coming soon which is why I forgot to add it into my initial idea though it seems that you have included the same idea that I would have done anyway and in the right category.

    I still think that the Nintendo forum should be "Wii U" to keep it inline with it being a current generation console like what's done with the Xbox One and then give it a legacy sub-forum.

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    The 3ds is a legacy system? It has more games and activity than the Wii U, but we'll make a Wii U section? Doesn't make real sense there.

    Ghost,

    Just add a section in how I have it now under the community gaming category. I don't think it'll be that active at all to be honest.




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    Can always have the 3DS up there as well then. I was just thinking of the main larger consoles though rather than handhelds.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    However, I see the Vs section has gone? This should be done away with IYO?
    The Vs section is nothing but a form of flamebait and does cause an unnecessary rift between gamers.

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    As in Varsh's example, just have a big 'Other' parent forum and whack everything that isn't Playstation in there as separate sub forums. You're halfway there already.

    We do not need this

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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    The 3ds is a legacy system? It has more games and activity than the Wii U, but we'll make a Wii U section? Doesn't make real sense there.

    Ghost,

    Just add a section in how I have it now under the community gaming category. I don't think it'll be that active at all to be honest.
    Well not doing something because it might not is not how I roll, I'd rather do something and see if it works or not, putting effort to make it work, then scrapping it if its a flatout failure. A few people told me the writing section wouldnt work and that now has around 100 reviews or something.

    People come to PSU and read about the latest games..."WOW BF4 is the $#@!, I'm gonna gt that tomorrow...huh...what's this? PSU has its own BF4 clan? Cool, I can get my news and play here at PSU".

    If I can get 250 people signing upto DUST 514 by pimping the corp at the end of my articles, that can be EASILYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY be done for all of the more mainstream games. DUST 514 clan is a bit dead atm, due to my neglect over the past months but it is a testament that people will come and sign up and be part of clans set up here. I bet we could kick ass if we set up and pimped a BF4. Start throwing in special events like PSU community vs PSU staff...streamed on twitch, and things get interesting. Sections will work if we as a community make them work and get involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    I like this:

    Other
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    -> Nintendo Wii U
    ---> Nintendo Legacy
    -> PC
    -> Other Gaming
    That's fine. We could even try to encourage things like board games or Warhammer in the "other gaming" bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    I put the PSU media in, well, the PSU section. That makes more sense since it's actually site specific.

    Added the Community Gaming section, and put Twitch TV on there. Also put the Community reviews/opinion section in there too since it fits just nicely under the name of the category.
    Kept the Forum/sub-f of system/games for the consoles.


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    It isn't overwhelming at all. Since you posted that I asked my daughter, 12 years old, who hasn't ever been on these forums.... to come find something. I asked her what she likes the most, and she said, of course, Pokemon. I told her to find a discussion about Pokemon. She opened the page via bookmark, scrolled down, clicked on the Nintendo section, and went to the first thread in the section; Pokemon X/Y.

    It can't be any easier by grouping more things together. I asked her if there was a problem. She said the Nintendo words were smaller than the other, so she had to look a little closer. Hmm...
    I think it can be overwhelming -- good that your daughter was able to figure out where the Nintendo forum was.

    Just to point out, I am not pushing to group things together, lol. If there isn't a lot of activity in two forums that are related then we should group it, otherwise, we should leave them separate as far as grouping is concerned.

    Let others come up with ideas, and let them discuss. You seem to want to shoot down any idea others come up with.

    EDIT

    Went over the previous thread and I see now why you keep thinking I am pushing for grouping forums together but I am not sure how you missed the post where I conceded the fact that we have good reasons to keep them separate.
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    PSU COMMUNITY

    [Announcements]
    [PSU Media Content]
    -->PlayStation Community Question Of The Week
    -->PSUTube
    -->PlayStation Unchained Podcast
    [Community Reviews & Opinions]
    [Design Corner]
    -->Sig/Avy Requests
    [Forum Rules, Help, & Feedback]
    -->Infractions & Bans

    PLAYSTATION CHAT


    [PlayStation 4]
    -->PlayStation 4 Games
    [PlayStation 3]
    -->PlayStation 3 Games
    ---->DUST 514
    ---->GTA V
    ---->Call of Duty
    ---->FFXIV: AAR
    [PlayStation Vita]
    [PlayStation Legacy]

    PLAYSTATION ONLINE CHAT

    [PlayStation Network]
    [PSU Community Online Multiplayer]
    [PSU Twitch TV Streaming Schedule
    --> Community Streaming SHeduels
    [Trophies] (sometime in the future perhaps)


    OTHER GAMING CHAT

    [XBox One]
    -->Xbox Legacy
    [Wii U]
    -->Nintendo Legacy
    [PC]
    [Other Gaming]
    [PlayStation vs Xbox]


    GENERAL FORUMS

    [Off-Topic]
    -->Entertainment
    -->Sports
    -->Technology
    -->Forum Games

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    I like how the above brings out the main forums for the other platforms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyn View Post
    As in Varsh's example, just have a big 'Other' parent forum and whack everything that isn't Playstation in there as separate sub forums. You're halfway there already.

    We do not need this
    There's nothing wrong with having it. It has plenty of activity. I merged it a little in my example.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    Well not doing something because it might not is not how I roll, I'd rather do something and see if it works or not, putting effort to make it work, then scrapping it if its a flatout failure. A few people told me the writing section wouldnt work and that now has around 100 reviews or something.

    People come to PSU and read about the latest games..."WOW BF4 is the $#@!, I'm gonna gt that tomorrow...huh...what's this? PSU has its own BF4 clan? Cool, I can get my news and play here at PSU".

    If I can get 250 people signing upto DUST 514 by pimping the corp at the end of my articles, that can be EASILYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY be done for all of the more mainstream games. DUST 514 clan is a bit dead atm, due to my neglect over the past months but it is a testament that people will come and sign up and be part of clans set up here. I bet we could kick ass if we set up and pimped a BF4. Start throwing in special events like PSU community vs PSU staff...streamed on twitch, and things get interesting. Sections will work if we as a community make them work and get involved.
    The reviews section is a ghost town, no pun intended lol. The sticky threads haven't been touched in seven plus months, and the reviews become few and far between. If it doesn't get a decent amount of use after the PS4 launches, and those exclusives are hitting, well, I say those people that said it wasn't going to be very active were pretty right about it.

    I removed the buy/sale section, not being used beyond a few threads in almost half a year.




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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    There's nothing wrong with having it. It has plenty of activity. I merged it a little in my example.



    The reviews section is a ghost town, no pun intended lol. The sticky threads haven't been touched in seven plus months, and the reviews become few and far between. If it doesn't get a decent amount of use after the PS4 launches, and those exclusives are hitting, well, I say those people that said it wasn't going to be very active were pretty right about it.

    I removed the buy/sale section, not being used beyond a few threads in almost half a year.
    It is a ghost town only because I have let it get that way. Initiatives in community development are like a lil garden: if you give it attention and look after it, it will flourish and if you neglect it it will die. It needs revitalising and I will be working with Sir Scud to revitalise it. With the possibility of a PlayStation wiki here at PSU and a new generation upon us, that section can and will be successful.

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    oh just leave the site alone, its fine the way it is. if anything, consolidate the x-box forums into one. Its a Playstation site afterall. The site works fine just as it is. If it aint broke, dont fix it, and this site aint broke. Its layout is fine. I say, we kick out anyone who says this site should be more like NeoGaf. That site sucks. its pure anarchy (in the uk) haha...see what i did there?

    Seriously, i dont think 1 person being too lazy to move their wrist an extra couple of times once a day is reason enough to change the layout of a site thats worked very VERY well for years. Im not saying it cant be a little more streamlined, but this is just damn absurd.


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    Guys, I say it again, this isn't about change to make things easier to find, it's about change to accommodate growth coming to the site. There WILL be changes because there are new sections that ARE coming and the forum needs to be coherently and logically arranged.

    Also, the drive to focus on community and the community's engagement with PSU as a news site is of greater importance now and this needs to be reflected in the layout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    It is a ghost town only because I have let it get that way. Initiatives in community development are like a lil garden: if you give it attention and look after it, it will flourish and if you neglect it it will die. It needs revitalising and I will be working with Sir Scud to revitalise it. With the possibility of a PlayStation wiki here at PSU and a new generation upon us, that section can and will be successful.
    I wasn't going to be rude and mention it like that, but since you did.... at least you know. Which is why I'm saying we'll see how it goes after the PS4 gets going.

    I've put forth as much as I can at this point. I'll post a summary, and then let ya'll figure out what the place needs.

    My ideal situation:

    Don't put the Xbox section under Other.
    Don't put legacy in the Xbox section. You're removing the 360, but adding Legacy. So the same forum tree is still there, and Legacy has no real bearing on the Microsoft platforms.
    Put the community sections under a community category. The reviews, twitch, clans/PS Network... it would look very cohesive like that.
    Get rid of the buy/sale/trade section completely.
    Don't change Nintendo to Wii U. That would be a failure in common sense. Sorry to be so blunt about it.

    My compromise:
    Put Nintendo in Other
    Put Xbox in Other




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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    Guys, I say it again, this isn't about change to make things easier to find, it's about change to accommodate growth coming to the site. There WILL be changes because there are new sections that ARE coming and the forum needs to be coherently and logically arranged.
    In order to grow, you have to be willing to see if you can make things easier to discover -- since that goes hand-in-hand. I think it would be nice to have some type of navigation that is accessible on all pages that lets you jump to other forums (there is a drop-down but it's placement is a bit hidden.)

    What I am trying to say is we should be willing to look into ways to improve that also, if it can be. Just because the current set-up works doesn't mean you can't explore and try other options.
    Last edited by sainraja; 11-07-2013 at 23:09.

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