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    Reviewing the forum layout - community feedback

    So, this came up in the thread about merging sections. I just want to have a bit of a community brainstorming session about the layout of the forum. This is not because there is an impending revamp looming, I just want to see if anyone has any ideas about possible improvements because there will be a new Twitch section coming, possibly a section for clan gaming and maybe sometime a lil down the line a trophy section. PSU is in a time of growth so I just want to see what possible changes could be made to accommodate expansion as we develop more ways for people to engage the site. If you have any ideas for whole forum OR single sections, please use the format that was kindly posted by Mr Ixion.

    These are new sections that will probably be coming in the very near future:

    [PSU Community Gaming]

    [Twitch TV]
    --> PSU Live Streaming Schedule
    --> Community Streamers

    As these are all PSN related I think we could maybe we could take PSN section out of PlayStation Chat and make PlayStation Network a new section.

    ALSO! The somewhat absent Mr DeviousOne often talked about having a section for new members to make a thread to introduce themselves. He said that a lot of forums do this and after h said that; i kinda noticed he was right. Thoughts on this? Yay? Nay? Is the existing thread enough? Would you like to create an introduction thread to engage the community with if you were new?

    Anyway, feedback please!

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    Here is the current layout. For those who want to submit layout suggestions, you can use this as a template, and adjust it from there.


    WELCOME TO PSU FORUMS

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    PLAYSTATION CHAT

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    [PlayStation 4]
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    MICROSOFT XBOX CHAT

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    OTHER GAMING CHAT

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    GENERAL FORUMS

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    -->Sports
    -->Technology
    -->Forum Games
    [Design Corner]
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    [Community Reviews & Opinions]
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    Ok, remove Xbox section please

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    I was thinking about:

    OTHER GAMING CHAT

    [Microsoft]
    -->XBox Games
    -->Xbox One
    -->Xbox 360
    [Nintendo]
    [PC]
    [Other Gaming]
    [PlayStation vs Xbox]

    How ever, there are currently no plans to remove the section from the site.

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    I agree, there needs to be a new members' section in which new members can introduce themselves and there'd be stickies about the rules and forum behavior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    How ever, there are currently no plans to remove the section from the site.
    I hate to be a pain in the bottom, but why not? I mean, why not minimize it? Reduce it, have one whole Xbox section or Microsoft gaming section. That would put more focus on the PlayStation part of the site and forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Wolf View Post
    I hate to be a pain in the bottom, but why not? I mean, why not minimize it? Reduce it, have one whole Xbox section or Microsoft gaming section. That would put more focus on the PlayStation part of the site and forums.
    It brings good traffic to the site. Removing it would be counterproductive unless there is a need or overwhelming outcry to. Having said that, last time the issue was raised there was a lot of support for the idea...but yeah, as I said, I currently have no plans to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Wolf View Post
    I hate to be a pain in the bottom, but why not? I mean, why not minimize it? Reduce it, have one whole Xbox section or Microsoft gaming section. That would put more focus on the PlayStation part of the site and forums.
    In what way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapture View Post
    In what way?
    I guess you could say by perceptions. If Playstation fans or guests see the forum and see it has promoted the playstation section, it may encourage them to join.

    I know when I first joined this forum, I found it odd that there are so many Xbox fans and owners on here. That could be discouraging others from joining.

    That's my tiny 2 cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    I was thinking about:

    OTHER GAMING CHAT

    [Microsoft]
    -->XBox Games
    -->Xbox One
    -->Xbox 360
    [Nintendo]
    [PC]
    [Other Gaming]
    [PlayStation vs Xbox]

    How ever, there are currently no plans to remove the section from the site.
    I don't want Xbox discussion wiped off the forum but it should live in 'other gaming' similar to how it used to be. That forum is there for a reason, Ninty and PC don't have their own fully fledged forums. Xbox should have the one sub-forum and no more

    If you're looking to minimise the site a little bit that is the first place you should look

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    I don't think we need to remove forums for the other platforms.

    If we are going to do that, then discussing other platforms within PlayStation specific discussions should be allowed but that is unnecessarily complicating things.

    Some type of menu option that lets you jump to any forum on all pages would be nice (and wouldn't require a new design or anything -- similar to what I suggested, but not all the way.)

    I know we have a drop-down that lets you do that but it's not obvious (you learn it's there after using the site.)
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    This is what I would personally like to see:

    WELCOME TO PSU FORUMS

    [Announcements]
    [Introductions]
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    PLAYSTATION CHAT

    [PSU Media Content]
    -->PlayStation Community Question Of The Week
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    [PlayStation 4]
    [PlayStation 4 Games]
    [PlayStation 3]
    [PlayStation 3 Games]
    -->DUST 514
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    [PlayStation Vita]
    [PlayStation Legacy]

    PLAYSTATION NETWORK CHAT

    [PlayStation Network]
    [PSU Community Gaming]
    [Twitch TV]
    --> PSU Live Streaming Schedule
    --> Community Streamers
    [Trophies] (sometime in the future perhaps)


    OTHER GAMING CHAT

    [Microsoft]
    -->XBox Games
    -->Xbox One
    -->Xbox 360
    [Nintendo]
    [PC]
    [Other Gaming]
    [PlayStation vs Xbox]


    GENERAL FORUMS

    [Off-Topic]
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    -->Sports
    -->Technology
    -->Forum Games
    [Design Corner]
    -->Sig/Avy Requests
    [Community Reviews & Opinions]
    [PSU Buy, Sell, Trade]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    I was thinking about:

    OTHER GAMING CHAT

    [Microsoft]
    -->XBox Games
    -->Xbox One
    -->Xbox 360
    [Nintendo]
    [PC]
    [Other Gaming]
    [PlayStation vs Xbox]
    The problem here is with the [Microsoft] forum. It's only there to act as the parent to those three Xbox sub-forums. It would end up being pretty barren, just like the [Other Gaming] forum is now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    This is what I would personally like to see:
    I like it.

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    If are going to do it by platform then PlayStation should be the same way. We should just be consistent. If merging forums wouldn't work (we have good reasons to keep them separate) then it's just better to be consistent in my opinion.

    [Sony]
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    Quote Originally Posted by sainraja View Post
    If are going to do it by platform then PlayStation should be the same way. We should just be consistent. If merging forums wouldn't work (we have good reasons to keep them separate) then it's just better to be consistent in my opinion.

    [Sony]
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    -->PS4
    -->PS3
    But when would we post in the [Sony] forum?

    You're doing that to make it cleaner, but then you're left with a parent forum without much of a purpose. We have to be wary of that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sainraja View Post
    If are going to do it by platform then PlayStation should be the same way. We should just be consistent. If merging forums wouldn't work (we have good reasons to keep them separate) then it's just better to be consistent in my opinion.

    [Sony]
    -->PlayStation Games
    -->PS4
    -->PS3
    That format is only really for the other platforms. Sony is the main focus of the forums which is why it isn't condensed like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    The problem here is with the [Microsoft] forum. It's only there to act as the parent to those three Xbox sub-forums. It would end up being pretty barren, just like the [Other Gaming] forum is now.
    Hmmm, that's a good point. How was it in the past when it was under other gaming? I can't remember.


    Suggestion:

    OTHER GAMING CHAT

    [Microsoft Consoles]
    -->XBox Games
    [Nintendo Consoles]
    -->Nintendo Games
    [PC]
    -->PC Games
    [Other Gaming]
    [PlayStation vs Xbox]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    Suggestion:

    OTHER GAMING CHAT

    [Microsoft Consoles]
    -->XBox Games
    [Nintendo Consoles]
    -->Nintendo Games
    [PC]
    -->PC Games
    [Other Gaming]
    [PlayStation vs Xbox]
    You think we should add more forums for Nintendo and PC?

    Personally, I would do this:

    OTHER GAMING CHAT
    [Xbox]
    -->Xbox Games
    [Nintendo]
    [PC Gaming]
    [Other Gaming]
    [PlayStation vs Xbox]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    But when would we post in the [Sony] forum?

    You're doing that to make it cleaner, but then you're left with a parent forum without much of a purpose. We have to be wary of that!
    Good point -- that would apply to the Microsoft / Nintendo platforms as well. So, it wouldn't work if set-up that way. But you're right, the parent forum is left without much of a purpose.

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    Why not merge some of the 'Console' and 'Console Games' sections? Do we really need a section only for the PS3 console then a section for its games? It seems like an unnecessary split.
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    The reason given for keeping them separate is that it keeps hardware discussion separate from game discussions making it easier to find what you want -- so if you are looking for game specific discussion you have a separate forum for it, etc.

    It is a good reason -- I was thinking that it could be a sub-forum of the main PlayStation [#] forum. Others suggested the same with minor variations.

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    To be honest I think having the competitors on here is much better than not having them on at all. They're already fairly minimised and the Playstation sections are already quite large and easily overcrowd the other sections. There could definitely be better organisation though like:
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    -> Reviews and Opinions
    Sony
    -> Playstation 4
    ---> Games
    ------> [popular game franchises]
    -> Playstation 3
    ---> Games
    ------> [popular game franchises]
    -> Playstation Vita
    -> Playstation Legacy (PS1, PS2, PSP)
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    -> Nintendo Wii U
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    -> Other gaming devices
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    -> Off-Topic
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    ---> Sports
    ---> Technology
    -> Graphics and Art
    ---> Requests
    As you can see I've removed the trading forum which is pointless, a thread a month shows that the forum is clearly not required. Other than the Playstation Legacy forum, the others can easily but put into relevant sub-forums. PC Gaming should just be renamed to "Personal Computer" or "PCs" as it's far too broad a term and we talk mostly about hardware in there. The first category I renamed from "Welcome to PSU Forums" to "Community" instead and moved "Reviews and Opinions" from the bottom to the top as it's not a general forum but a community based forum so it should be categorised as such. Everything in the "Other" category is condensed in a way that a user that does not wish to have any of those forums shown and can simply minimise it with the right arrow, it will make things look cleaner and emphasises the Sony category more without getting rid of the other competitor forums.

    Regarding the Playstation category though I've renamed it to "Sony" as it makes more sense (to me anyway). Each console has it's own forum however I've moved the games forums as sub-cateogries, again this is to keep the main forum front page cleaner and less to scroll through as it makes things less convoluted and easier to read. Playstation Network I've also renamed to "Sony Entertainment Network" as that's the new name for it.

    Lastly "Design Corner" I renamed to "Graphics and Art" as having it as "Design Corner" and purely labelled for avatars and signatures I feel detracts from other types of art and graphics, renaming it as such (and changing the caption!) should promote more artistic flair and freedom rather than what it currently is. The "Sig/Avy Requests" forum did just that so renaming that to just "Requests" would be much better.

    Of course all of this is just my opinion and ideas thrown together so take it as you will but these are my thoughts anyway. Just one thing I do want to say though is that the front page is FAR too long and seriously requires condensing.

    Code:
    ====================
    Condensed front page
    ====================
    Community
    -> Announcements
    -> Forum Rules, Help and Feedback
    -> Reviews and Opinions
    Sony
    -> Playstation 4
    -> Playstation 3
    -> Playstation Vita
    -> Playstation Legacy (PS1, PS2, PSP)
    -> Sony Entertainment Network (PSN)
    Other
    -> Microsoft Xbox One
    -> Nintendo Wii U
    -> PCs
    -> Other gaming devices
    General
    -> Off-Topic
    -> Graphics and Art

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    I say leave it how it is now. It doesn't cause any disruption, it's easy to navigate, and extremely easy to find categories of your interest without having to sort through other content.

    Honestly, just leave it the way it is.




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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    I say leave it how it is now. It doesn't cause any disruption, it's easy to navigate, and extremely easy to find categories of your interest without having to sort through other content.

    Honestly, just leave it the way it is.
    Agreed. Any changes done is pretty much just change for the sake of change.

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    It's not for the sake of change, it's for the sake of growth. New sections are coming and I think there need to be a few minor adjustments made to accommodate these.

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