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    TechRadar: How PS3 won the console war

    How the PlayStation 3 won the console war

    Fighting talk Despite its shaky start, Sony's seventh-gen powerhouse played a blinder

    By Phil Iwaniuk November 5th
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    The PS3 definitely won the current generation. Definitely... Related stories


    The Xbox 360 didn't win the console war, the PS3 did!
    It's a true underdog story. PlayStation 3 launched in Europe some 14 months after Xbox 360 in March 2007, delayed by a shortage of diodes used in its Blu-Ray drive, of all things.
    When it finally did arrive, it came with a considerably bigger price tag than Microsoft's offering, and was plagued by second-rate versions of cross-platform releases. The writing, it appeared, was on the wall: Xbox 360 was going to win this generation's console war.
    But incredibly, Sony turned that less-than-desirable start to its advantage, and as we stand on the precipice between seventh and eighth generation consoles and take stock of the last six years, any fool can see PlayStation 3 ends the era victorious.
    The PS3 has now outsold the Xbox 360Numbers don't lie

    Don't believe me? Here, have some numbers. Mattrick & co's box of tricks has sold 78.84 million units worldwide so far. Kutaragi's mean machine has sold 80.29 and counting.
    In fact, PlayStation 3's still selling so well in its twilight that there's a genuine chance it can surpass the Wii's 100 million mark and enter the books as this generation's biggest seller hands down (let's be clear: no-one is buying Wiis anymore).
    Those numbers are impressive enough at face value, but factor in Xbox 360's 14-month headstart and they illustrate a miraculous reversal of fortune for Ken's console. How it managed to keep shifting units while its competition was offering irresistibly beguiling titles like Kinectimals is some wonder.
    The third iteration of the PS3 is a looker...The games

    Yes, let's touch base with each console's respective games library, because it's here, particularly in first-party titles, that Sony really turned the tide over the past six years.
    Microsoft started strongly with Halo 3, Gears of War and Dead Rising in its platform-exclusive ranks, and while Sony did have Resistance: Fall Of Man and Uncharted up its sleeve, you wouldn't say it had the edge in the early days.
    Fast forward to present day, in which three stunning Uncharted games grace PS3's pastures, along with Gran Turismo 5, Metal Gear Solid 4, Heavy Rain and countless other first-party treasures. Xbox appeared to have a considerable ace up its sleeve with Kinect, and Peter Molyneux's Milo demo looked set to revolutionise gaming. The end result of all that tech: Kinectimals et al.
    Sony's first-party releases this year alone include Naughty Dog's award-winning, critically beloved The Last Of Us, David Cage's ambitious and technically impressive Beyond: Two Souls, and Sony Santa Monica's gorgeous God of War: Ascension. They're just the big-hitters in a 13-strong lineup that also includes the likes of Puppeteer and a new Sly Cooper.
    What exclusives have 360 owners had to console themselves with (apologies for the excellent pun) this year? Literally three games: Gears Of War: Judgement, State Of Decay and a re-release of Fable. If those aren't grounds to emphatically drop the metaphorical mic and leave this article, hands held aloft, I don't know what are.
    Except I'm not done, because I haven't even begun to rile Xbox fanboys about having to pay a subscription fee for online gaming yet. Parting ways with £30 each year for the privilege of watching a Finnish tween teabag your Master Chief's corpse is a concept we'll never stop laughing at in the realm of PS3.
    DualShock 3 is a great pad and that is a fact!Your network sucks

    The PlayStation network's had its problems and outages, but that's okay, because it's a service that costs you /nothing/, gives you multiplayer gaming, and an enormous online store filled with the latest releases, PS1 classics and indies.
    There was that one extremely high-profile intrusion perpetrated by lovers of Lulz that we won't talk about or they'll DDoS my Quantum Leap fan fiction blog… But even in the midst of a Global PR nightmare, Sony came up trumps and gave you two free games from a list of four that included Infamous and LittleBigPlanet to say sorry. That, and 30 days of free membership to PlayStation Plus.
    Yep, Sony has its own subscription service, and rather than holding a basic gaming right to ransom like Xbox 360's Gold membership, it showers you with free games and cloud saves. And let me stop you before you embarrass yourself by mentioning the free games you get with Gold membership, because I'm talking about games you'd actually want to play.
    This month on PS Plus, Metal Gear Rising and Remember Me are the highlights of the instant game collection, replacing the likes of Far Cry 3 and Spec Ops: The Line in October. Over on Games With Gold this November? Iron Brigade and World Of Keflings. Both of which are usually priced at £6.75. You can go ahead and insert your Ferrero Rocher meme here, because truly you're being spoiled.
    Microsoft had an open goal in the early days of this generation, and PlayStation 3 cunningly built a wall of fantastic first-party titles in front of that goal in the six years that followed.
    Verdict

    It's been a miraculous turnaround for PlayStation 3, and Sony's carrying a tremendous amount of that momentum into generation eight, where it appears to have the same kind of advantage Xbox did back in December 2005. Hold it together, Kaz…
    http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming...le-war-1196215

    Not that this should really be news to anyone.

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    Not this again....lol. That journalist didn't check the facts. Xbox360 went over 80 million already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    Not this again....lol. That journalist didn't check the facts. Xbox360 went over 80 million already.
    says who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by on the rocks View Post
    says who?
    Says MS.

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    lol Losing around 25% of their global console marketshare is not a 'remarkable turnaround' in my book.

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    It depends what you use as the criteria for "winning".

    This article is simply going by who has the most momentum going into next-gen. That seems like a silly way to decide a winner. If anything, that just means Sony has a good chance of winning the NEXT console war.

    Nintendo sold the most consoles and made the most money. I'd say they won.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    Says MS.
    Got a link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by on the rocks View Post
    Got a link?
    On October 17th, MS announced they sold 80 million. On November 5th, Sony announced they sold 80 million. So, essentially, Sony closed a one year gap to within a week or two of console sales. It is a very real possibility that as of Xbox One's launch day, PS3 will have outsold the 360.

    Meanwhile, the Wii has stopped production and sales are at a stand-still. If you throw in the fact that MS had an update that rendered hard drives unusable for over 1 million 360s and also the attrition/re-buy rate caused by the RRoD, it is very easy to make a case that Sony has not only out-sold the Xbox in raw unit sales, but also won many more unique system owners in the process.

    PS3 has won.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefein View Post
    On October 17th, MS announced they sold 80 million. On November 5th, Sony announced they sold 80 million. So, essentially, Sony closed a one year gap to within a week or two of console sales. It is a very real possibility that as of Xbox One's launch day, PS3 will have outsold the 360.

    Meanwhile, the Wii has stopped production and sales are at a stand-still. If you throw in the fact that MS had an update that rendered hard drives unusable for over 1 million 360s and also the attrition/re-buy rate caused by the RRoD, it is very easy to make a case that Sony has not only out-sold the Xbox in raw unit sales, but also won many more unique system owners in the process.

    PS3 has won.
    Winning can mean different things, i guess. Who gained the most? Who lost the most? Sometimes it depends on who's writing the article. In this case that editor is obviously biased towards playstation:

    Phil Iwaniuk is Games Editor of Official PlayStation Magazine UK. Stares blankly when the words 'Forza' or 'Master Chief' are uttered in his vicinity.
    Im sure you noticed that at the end of the article.


    Here is one on the xbox360 posted the next day on the same site written by a pro xbox editor:

    How the Xbox 360 won the console war


    http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming...le-war-1196990

    Jon Hicks is the editor of Official Xbox Magazine. He thinks Kill Zone is part of a basketball court and has an irrational fear of PlayStation Move controllers.
    So i guess it all depends on what you mean by "win".

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    Japan.

    Outside of that they lost, but only because of the year head start, otherwise they were about neck and neck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Japan.

    Outside of that they lost, but only because of the year head start, otherwise they were about neck and neck.
    They lost Europe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    They lost Europe?
    No, they lost the rest of the world.
    They sold worldwide outside of Japan at the exact same rate. The only difference was the years headstart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefein View Post

    PS3 has won.
    I'm sure the irony's not lost on you that it's taken you until 2013 to even suggest that the PS3 'won'.

    Anyway, I know how much you love balanced debate and so I found this

    The PS3 didn't win the console war, the Xbox 360 did.And in looking for proof of the Xbox 360's position as the defining console of the age, you can refer to no less an authority than President Barack Obama.
    It was he who criticised Republican behaviour over the recent US government shutdown by saying "You don't get a chance to call your bank and say, 'I'm not going to pay my mortgage this month unless you throw in a new car and an Xbox.'"
    This bit of partisan point-scoring represents the zenith of Microsoft's incredible success in the seventh console generation - the point at which even the President admitted that "Xbox" had became interchangeable with "games console"in the way that "Playstation" had at the turn of the century.
    It was, and is, the device on which most self-described gamers play games.

    The Xbox 360 is only slightly behind PS3 on sales

    America led the way


    This status is due in part to the console's incredible success in North America: it was the best-selling US console for more than two and a half years, with 32 uninterrupted months between the Wii's downfall in January 2011 to the PS3's GTA-powered boost last month. (It's a position it'll probably reclaim post-Xbox One, when the inevitable price cuts kick in.)
    It enjoyed similar success in the UK, and while diehard Sony loyalists in Europe and Japan helped PlayStation 3 close the lead in terms of worldwide sales, Sony still can't claim to be the most influential.
    Neither, of course, can Nintendo - the Wii did very well in its time in the sun, and still claims the sales trophy, but the sales collapse of first third-party software and, in the Wii U, Nintendo's own hardware, marks the Wiimote as more fad than fundamental change in the market.

    Hardware faults are a thing of the past

    The games


    No, it was the Xbox 360 that defined this generation in a way that no other console managed. It was on Xbox 360 that Gears of War made cover shooters the signature genre of the era (and, in Horde Mode, added a new standard to multiplayer gaming, alongside hoary stalwarts like Team Deathmatch).
    In doing so, it established Unreal Engine as the de facto next-gen development platform, shaping the look and feel of everything from Mirror's Edge to Arkham Asylum.
    It was on the Xbox 360 that we played those first intoxicating rounds of Call of Duty: Modern Warfare's multiplayer beta - the other great defining gaming experience of the generation, and the first console game to build a gigantic, mass-market player base off online, rather than offline play.
    It did so off the back of Xbox Live, which built on one of the few outright successes of the original Xbox to become what's still the most reliable, best-equipped console gaming service.

    Xbox Live is the best multiplayer gaming platform

    YOUR network sucks


    At the launch of Xbox 360, console multiplayer was a new and uncertain frontier for people playing Project Gotham and Rainbow Six. Xbox Live and Call of Duty took it mainstream, to the point where it's become entirely normal to join your friends for a round of CoD, match of FIFA, or killing spree on GTA Online.

    Sony's online service got there in the end, but it's signature achievement remains one of the world's biggest ever data breaches and the inability to support cross-game chat fives years after it became a standard feature.


    On Xbox 360, meanwhile, a far more successful Achievement flourished. The digital rewards that debuted with Microsoft's second console have become an industry standard.
    Valve lifted them in their entirety for Steam, Sony rebranded them as Trophies, but neither challenged Microsoft's design. Similarly sincere flattery was extended to the Xbox 360's controller, with Nintendo mimicking it entirely for its "pro"gamepad.
    Admittedly, Microsoft returned the favour with Kinect, but even that's a mark in the Xbox 360's favour: its motion sensor became the fastest-selling consumer electronic device in history, and Microsoft releasing it as a peripheral meant it did so without compromising the console's strengths in traditional "hardcore" gaming.
    And what strengths they were. It was the Xbox 360 on which we first experienced the spectacular environmental storytelling of Bioshock, the vast universe of Mass Effect, and the huge open worlds of Dead Rising and Crackdown.

    It was Xbox 360 that lead the way in digital distribution, starting with Zuma and stepping up to classics like Geometry Wars 2, Braid and Shadow Complex. Amid Sony's recent touting of its indie credentials, it's worth pointing out that Microsoft blazed a trail in digital distribution of smaller titles, and went so far as to open a completely homebrew route to market in the form of its Xbox Live Indie Games channel.

    While the latter never took off as many hoped it might, it was the first time anybody could get their game on a console without a publisher's involvement, and foreshadowed the indie game-dev revolution of the present day.


    Verdict


    Ultimately, Xbox 360 ends what became the longest generation as the most influential console on the market - an incredible achievement when you consider Microsoft's first stab at console gaming: the original Xbox barely made a dent in the Playstation's armour, and ended its short life as the Halo-and-emulation box.
    Xbox 360 passes the baton as the king of the hill - a position that puts all the more pressure on its successor, Xbox One.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Japan.

    Outside of that they lost, but only because of the year head start, otherwise they were about neck and neck.
    Sony closed the game this year... so if you look like sales per year on average as a ratio, you'll probably find that Sony selling more per year in existence.




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    I can't say with any certainty whether or not MS won or PS3, but Sony did NOT win. That much I do know- the fact remains that Sony released an inferior system that was not ready when they launched it. Quite frankly Sony should have kept the ps3 in dev longer and they might have stood a chance; instead, they waited a year later than MS and still released a console that was incomplete. If we are so busy fighting in the name of a faceless corporation, it's pretty easy to forget that both companies have, in their own turn, done some pretty awful things to their supporters, and I really don't understand why some people are so blindly faithful. (end rant:P)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serinous View Post
    Sony closed the game this year... so if you look like sales per year on average as a ratio, you'll probably find that Sony selling more per year in existence.
    Only if you include Japan numbers.
    Take away japan numbers an you find they sold the same amount every year.
    There were some years where Sony's had a few hundred thousand more, and others where it was the other way around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Only if you include Japan numbers.
    Take away japan numbers an you find they sold the same amount every year.
    There were some years where Sony's had a few hundred thousand more, and others where it was the other way around.
    Only if you include US, take away US and you will find Sony trounced the 360 every year!

    See what I did there? Got SELECTIVE in WW figures just like you did! Hows that selectiveness look for your brand of choice now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by snooper71 View Post
    Only if you include US, take away US and you will find Sony trounced the 360 every year!

    See what I did there? Got SELECTIVE in WW figures just like you did! Hows that selectiveness look for your brand of choice now?

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    To win something you have to have a competitor right?

    Put a one legged horse in a race if you must.

    Sony will always have Japan in its back pocket and there isnt anything MS can do about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    To win something you have to have a competitor right?

    Put a one legged horse in a race if you must.

    Sony will always have Japan in its back pocket and there isnt anything MS can do about it.
    hell no. Not even if they changed the name to Mitsubishi Box.

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    Crazy how the 360 had all the advantages and including the years that they were on the market together(not when the 360 was on the market with no next gen compitiion), the ps3 sold 5 million more. They're both tied at 80m with trends looking to put the ps3 passed the 360 after this holiday season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    Crazy how the 360 had all the advantages and including the years that they were on the market together(not when the 360 was on the market with no next gen compitiion), the ps3 sold 5 million more. They're both tied at 80m with trends looking to put the ps3 passed the 360 after this holiday season.
    Nearly 9 million of that 5 million were in Japan.
    <mind blown>

    Crazy how the 360 has "all" the advantages eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Nearly 9 million of that 5 million were in Japan.
    <mind blown>

    Crazy how the 360 has "all" the advantages eh?
    Price(whole generation price advantage), best place for multiplats(95% of the time), kinect(casuals)...

    And it's crazy how the 360 has a 15 or 20 million console lead in the states...your mynd $#@!s don't work on me. Being so selective.

    It's going to be interesting seeing Ms work without the major advantages(price/multiplats/headstart) Seems kinect didn't put them ahead any years either.

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    FY          Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr    Ap-Jn      FY       LTD
    
    2006/07        1.0      4.4      0.5      0.7       6.6     11.6
        
    2007/08        1.8      4.3      1.3      1.3       8.7     20.3  
      
    2008/09        2.2      6.0      1.7      1.2      11.2     31.5  
       
    2009/10        2.1      5.2      1.5      1.5      10.3     41.8
    
    2010/11        2.8      6.3      2.7      1.7      13.7     55.3 
    
    2011/12        2.3      8.2      1.4      1.1      13.0     68.3
    
    2012/13        1.7      5.9      1.3      1.0       9.9     78.2
    
    2013/14        1.2      0.6(avg)  -        -         -      80.0

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    FY06       -         -        1.7       1.8       3.5       3.5
    
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    FY08      1.6       2.4       4.5       1.6       10.1      22.7 
    
    FY09      1.1       3.2       6.5       2.2       13.0      35.7
    
    FY10      2.4       3.5       6.3       2.1       14.3      50.0
    
    FY11      1.8       3.7       6.5       1.9       13.9      63.9
    
    FY12       -          -         -          -      13.0      76.9
    
    FY13      1.1       2.0        -         -        3.1       80.0
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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    Price(whole generation price advantage), best place for multiplats(95% of the time), kinect(casuals)...

    And it's crazy how the 360 has a 15 or 20 million console lead in the states...your mynd $#@!s don't work on me. Being so selective.

    It's going to be interesting seeing Ms work without the major advantages(price/multiplats/headstart) Seems kinect didn't put them ahead any years either.

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    2006/07        1.0      4.4      0.5      0.7       6.6     11.6
        
    2007/08        1.8      4.3      1.3      1.3       8.7     20.3  
      
    2008/09        2.2      6.0      1.7      1.2      11.2     31.5  
       
    2009/10        2.1      5.2      1.5      1.5      10.3     41.8
    
    2010/11        2.8      6.3      2.7      1.7      13.7     55.3 
    
    2011/12        2.3      8.2      1.4      1.1      13.0     68.3
    
    2012/13        1.7      5.9      1.3      1.0       9.9     78.2
    
    2013/14        1.2      0.6(avg)  -        -         -      80.0

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     HW      Ap-Jn     Jl-Sp     Oc-Dc     Ja-Mr      FY        LTD
    
    FY06       -         -        1.7       1.8       3.5       3.5
    
    FY07      0.7       1.3       4.9       2.2       9.1       12.6 
    
    FY08      1.6       2.4       4.5       1.6       10.1      22.7 
    
    FY09      1.1       3.2       6.5       2.2       13.0      35.7
    
    FY10      2.4       3.5       6.3       2.1       14.3      50.0
    
    FY11      1.8       3.7       6.5       1.9       13.9      63.9
    
    FY12       -          -         -          -      13.0      76.9
    
    FY13      1.1       2.0        -         -        3.1       80.0
    Oh I'm not saying they didn't have first mover advantage, they certainly did. But Sony was always going to catch up, the only thing was the rate at which they did it.

    This gen there is no doubt Sony should take at least a 25% more advantage in sales minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    Crazy how the 360 had all the advantages and including the years that they were on the market together(not when the 360 was on the market with no next gen compitiion), the ps3 sold 5 million more. They're both tied at 80m with trends looking to put the ps3 passed the 360 after this holiday season.
    Yep, and it took just about the whole generation to do it. I don't think MS would trade places regardless. They went from 25 mil to over 80 mil. Huge gain. Even if they do managae to surpass xbox this holiday, it will be just that. It's still not an improvement over where they were last gen. When they surpass ps2 that will be a milestone.

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    To win something you have to have a competitor right?

    Put a one legged horse in a race if you must.

    Sony will always have Japan in its back pocket and there isnt anything MS can do about it.
    I could understand this way of exempting the Japan numbers, IF the 360 was never released there. But it was, they sold a decent amount of units ( compared to Xbox) and continue to sell systems, so the numbers should stay and be used when talking about total sales.

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