Page 1 of 2 1 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 38
  1. #1
    Ultimate Veteran
    Metal King Slime's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Age
    23
    Posts
    22,051
    Rep Power
    190
    Points
    2,445 (0 Banked)
    Achievements IT'S OVER 9000!

    So, let's talk about PS4 visuals...

    I wonder if something like this is out of the realm of possibility for the PS4?



    So far, I'm really impressed with The Division and inFAMOUS: Second Son but, as newer games release, I expect to see a significant jump in visual fidelity, similar to how The Last of Us looks next-gen when compared to Resistance: Fall of Man.
    Thanks to Kwes for the avatar and Sylar for the signature!

    Metal King Slime, formerly Black. Gaming since Super Mario World (SNES).

  2. #2
    Valar Morghulis
    Serinous's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    PSN ID
    SerinousTSE
    Posts
    10,871
    Rep Power
    94
    Points
    21,035 (0 Banked)
    Items PS3 FatVitaPS3 Slim
    Achievements IT'S OVER 9000!
    I think there will be a diminishing return of that jump in visual fidelity. But it will be noticeable though. Maybe not a huge jump?




  3. #3
    Apprentice
    N0REGARD4LIFE's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    PSN ID
    N0REGARD4LIFE
    Posts
    446
    Rep Power
    11
    Points
    1,146 (0 Banked)
    Items PlayStationDiceBattlefield 3
    Don't be too impressed with The Division. Remember how great Watchdogs looked when Ubi was showing it early on, and then we saw it later on the graphics were no where near as good? I have a feeling The Division will suffer the same downgrade. Fingers crossed it doesn't though.

    I'm happy with the PS4 visuals so far, especially since I'm a huge Battfield fan(boy). I don't think what I've seen so far is a HUGE leap, but it's definitely a leap. Unfortunately I don't think graphics will ever meet my expectations in my life time, but that Dark Sorcerer demo wowed me.

  4. Likes VayMasters86 likes this post
  5. #4
    Superior Member
    JDizzleNO1's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    where the sun don't shine
    PSN ID
    JDizzleNO1
    Posts
    875
    Rep Power
    30
    Points
    2,350 (0 Banked)
    Items Diablo IIIMetallicaUser name styleDark Souls CoverDemons Souls CoverPS3 Fat
    what i believe we will see is not the hugest jump in graphics, but in fidelity, texture detail, minute details, resolution and other small but important graphical jumps. although, killzone shadow fall looks $#@!ing great!



  6. #5
    Super Moderator
    PS4freak's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Louisiana
    PSN ID
    lsutigers19
    Age
    26
    Posts
    13,712
    Rep Power
    143
    Points
    83,338 (190,439 Banked)
    Items Final Fantasy XIIIFinal Fantasy XCall of Duty: Black OPSDragon Ball ZPS3 SlimGoogle Chrome
    Achievements IT'S OVER 9000!
    I'm pretty impressed right now. KZ is absolutely gorgeous!




    Currently Playing: ​ Watch Dogs
    Currently Waiting For: ​​ ​Destiny

  7. Likes dondidit likes this post
  8. #6
    Ultimate Veteran
    coolguy's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    long island ny
    Age
    38
    Posts
    20,889
    Rep Power
    111
    Points
    29,022 (0 Banked)
    Achievements IT'S OVER 9000!
    I think the ps4 will come close to this video at the end of its cycle

  9. #7
    Apprentice

    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Posts
    173
    Rep Power
    7
    Points
    2,204 (0 Banked)
    Is it just me or do characters in games appear bigger? I don't know if it's because games are running in 1080p or what but it's awesome. The helghast in KZ are freaking huge same for 2k the guys are big and lifelike.

  10. #8
    Ultimate Veteran
    Metal King Slime's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Age
    23
    Posts
    22,051
    Rep Power
    190
    Points
    2,445 (0 Banked)
    Achievements IT'S OVER 9000!
    Quote Originally Posted by N0REGARD4LIFE View Post
    Don't be too impressed with The Division. Remember how great Watchdogs looked when Ubi was showing it early on, and then we saw it later on the graphics were no where near as good? I have a feeling The Division will suffer the same downgrade. Fingers crossed it doesn't though.

    I'm happy with the PS4 visuals so far, especially since I'm a huge Battfield fan(boy). I don't think what I've seen so far is a HUGE leap, but it's definitely a leap. Unfortunately I don't think graphics will ever meet my expectations in my life time, but that Dark Sorcerer demo wowed me.
    I don't believe The Division will suffer a downgrade, since it isn't cross-gen like Watch Dogs.
    Thanks to Kwes for the avatar and Sylar for the signature!

    Metal King Slime, formerly Black. Gaming since Super Mario World (SNES).

  11. Likes TEST SUBJECT 83 likes this post
  12. #9
    Dedicated Member
    John Willaford's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    Owings Mills, MD
    Age
    39
    Posts
    1,072
    Rep Power
    19
    Points
    412,130 (0 Banked)
    Quote Originally Posted by Black View Post
    I wonder if something like this is out of the realm of possibility for the PS4?



    So far, I'm really impressed with The Division and inFAMOUS: Second Son but, as newer games release, I expect to see a significant jump in visual fidelity, similar to how The Last of Us looks next-gen when compared to Resistance: Fall of Man.
    I'll be impressed with either title when I play it and see real graphics.
    Sofar, PS4 is equal to or better than my i7 970 with a Radeon 6950, and should continue to get better as it's understood and maximized better.
    I'd guess alot of titles actually don't use the memory management quite optimally and just take advantage of the speed and shared pool. There are nuances which will lead to great speed ups.

  13. #10
    Veteran
    daLa's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Age
    24
    Posts
    4,609
    Rep Power
    74
    Points
    56,971 (0 Banked)
    The Sorcerer game from Quantic looks much better than this video imo, and it's already running real time in PS4.


  14. Likes TEST SUBJECT 83 likes this post
  15. #11
    Member

    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Posts
    128
    Rep Power
    12
    Points
    1,348 (0 Banked)
    I would like to see a great improvement in lip sync this gen it's one of those little annoyances(spl?) this gen that is apparently being held back by the tools at hand. I can't really see visuals take a great leap more stepping stones as the years roll on. Most people have 1080 tv's so really to go beyond that won't make sense for developers

  16. #12
    Super Moderator
    PS4freak's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Louisiana
    PSN ID
    lsutigers19
    Age
    26
    Posts
    13,712
    Rep Power
    143
    Points
    83,338 (190,439 Banked)
    Items Final Fantasy XIIIFinal Fantasy XCall of Duty: Black OPSDragon Ball ZPS3 SlimGoogle Chrome
    Achievements IT'S OVER 9000!
    Quote Originally Posted by daLa View Post
    The Sorcerer game from Quantic looks much better than this video imo, and it's already running real time in PS4.
    More of a tech demo than anything.




    Currently Playing: ​ Watch Dogs
    Currently Waiting For: ​​ ​Destiny

  17. #13
    Master Poster
    RedOrb_Collector's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Age
    26
    Posts
    3,005
    Rep Power
    105
    Points
    14,250 (0 Banked)
    Items User name style
    The thing with people promising greater graphics as time goes on, while that's true, expectations also increase as time goes on.

    By the time I saw Last of Us I simply thought "this is a pretty nice looking game". Similar to how I felt about Uncharted 1 at the same time frame.

    Anyway, Killzone SF has shown a decent jump, even from late PS3. So for now I'm happy.

  18. #14
    Forum Overseer
    Omar's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Addison, TX.
    Age
    32
    Posts
    30,278
    Rep Power
    190
    Points
    105,140 (0 Banked)
    Achievements IT'S OVER 9000!
    I hope so, that doesn't even look that good. Horrible lip syncing and expressions. watch LA Noire...we should be able to achieve that this generation but it probably won't happen due to high costs.

  19. #15
    Ultimate Veteran
    Metal King Slime's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Age
    23
    Posts
    22,051
    Rep Power
    190
    Points
    2,445 (0 Banked)
    Achievements IT'S OVER 9000!
    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    I hope so, that doesn't even look that good. Horrible lip syncing and expressions. watch LA Noire...we should be able to achieve that this generation but it probably won't happen due to high costs.
    I've seen L.A. Noire. It's good. Synchronicity is the best I've seen in a while though.
    Thanks to Kwes for the avatar and Sylar for the signature!

    Metal King Slime, formerly Black. Gaming since Super Mario World (SNES).

  20. #16
    Forum Overseer
    Omar's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Addison, TX.
    Age
    32
    Posts
    30,278
    Rep Power
    190
    Points
    105,140 (0 Banked)
    Achievements IT'S OVER 9000!
    Quote Originally Posted by Black View Post
    I've seen L.A. Noire. It's good. Synchronicity is the best I've seen in a while though.
    maybe visuals...not expressions nor the lip syncing. here is a video as a refresher



    this video shows not only more accurate expressions but more dynamic ones and more of them.

    really, there isn't anything better than this yet, i'm sorry, no contest. we just need to go from there and incorporate next-gen tech.



    another close one, it's just amazing how they were able to do this.
    Last edited by Omar; 11-19-2013 at 06:41.

  21. #17
    Superior Member
    TEST SUBJECT 83's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Oregon
    PSN ID
    TEST SUBJECT 83
    Posts
    521
    Rep Power
    10
    Points
    4,876 (0 Banked)
    Quote Originally Posted by PS4freak View Post
    More of a tech demo than anything.
    Yeah, still was running in realtime on the PS4 6 months before it was launched.
    Im pretty sure will see those visuals in 5 plus years.

  22. #18
    Forum Overseer
    Omar's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Addison, TX.
    Age
    32
    Posts
    30,278
    Rep Power
    190
    Points
    105,140 (0 Banked)
    Achievements IT'S OVER 9000!
    pretty sure something close to that will be achievable. i'm definitely excited. too bad we'll have to wait before the really amazing games will be out.

  23. #19
    Super Moderator
    PS4freak's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Louisiana
    PSN ID
    lsutigers19
    Age
    26
    Posts
    13,712
    Rep Power
    143
    Points
    83,338 (190,439 Banked)
    Items Final Fantasy XIIIFinal Fantasy XCall of Duty: Black OPSDragon Ball ZPS3 SlimGoogle Chrome
    Achievements IT'S OVER 9000!
    Quote Originally Posted by TEST SUBJECT 83 View Post
    Yeah, still was running in realtime on the PS4 6 months before it was launched.
    Im pretty sure will see those visuals in 5 plus years.
    I agree. Doubt it will be in the near future like you said.




    Currently Playing: ​ Watch Dogs
    Currently Waiting For: ​​ ​Destiny

  24. #20
    Racing Game Fanatic
    Duffman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    PSN ID
    gold106gti
    Posts
    6,391
    Rep Power
    33
    Points
    190,243 (0 Banked)
    Items Title StyleVitaPS3 Slim
    I think we shall see graphics getting better as the evolution of the console continues, again look at The Last of Us compared to Resistance at the beginning of the PS3's life cycle.
    PSN ID: gold106gti

    Twitter ID: Duffman1986

    My New Youtube Gaming Channel: Duffman Gaming



  25. #21
    Master Sage
    Bitbydeath's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Age
    32
    Posts
    14,155
    Rep Power
    129
    Points
    42,364 (0 Banked)
    Achievements IT'S OVER 9000!
    Quote Originally Posted by TEST SUBJECT 83 View Post
    Yeah, still was running in realtime on the PS4 6 months before it was launched.
    Im pretty sure will see those visuals in 5 plus years.
    Not to mention that was simply a ported PS3 game engine (B:2S) running on PS4.
    QD are going to blow everyone away when they show off what they can do with the PS4 power.
    Far and above the vid in the OP.

  26. #22
    Apprentice
    chriharr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    GREAT SOUTHERN LAND
    PSN ID
    chriharr
    Posts
    375
    Rep Power
    26
    Points
    6,391 (0 Banked)
    Expect development cycles to be just as long as PS3 if you're expect graphical leaps and bounds this generation.. Graphics aren't important this generation.. it's physics and particle simulations this gen.
    " A Toll's a toll and a roll's a roll. If we don't get no toll's, then we don't eat no roll's"

  27. #23
    Racing Game Fanatic
    Duffman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    PSN ID
    gold106gti
    Posts
    6,391
    Rep Power
    33
    Points
    190,243 (0 Banked)
    Items Title StyleVitaPS3 Slim
    I am looking forward to seeing what Codemasters do with the next F1 game, especially the power they now have from the latest consoles!
    PSN ID: gold106gti

    Twitter ID: Duffman1986

    My New Youtube Gaming Channel: Duffman Gaming



  28. #24
    Legend
    F34R's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    South Carolina
    PSN ID
    F34RTEHR34PER
    Posts
    40,102
    Rep Power
    243
    Points
    146,174 (0 Banked)
    Items BullySteamGran Turismo 5LiverpoolAppleJoker (limited ICON)Naughty DogMaster ChiefAssassins Creed EzioGears of WarHeavy RainDiablo III
    Achievements IT'S OVER 9000!
    I'm on board with the hope that visuals double over the next few years.




  29. #25
    PSU Technical Advisor
    Varsh's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    W-s-M
    PSN ID
    UK-Varsh
    Age
    32
    Posts
    5,332
    Rep Power
    81
    Points
    18,343 (0 Banked)
    Items User name style
    Quote Originally Posted by Black View Post
    I wonder if something like this is out of the realm of possibility for the PS4?

    Yes and no. I think the better question would be "would we be seeing similar results to something like this on the PS4?", the answer to that is a resounding yes. The problem is is that it is going to take still a good 20+ years before games reach the polygon and fidelity standard of FMV. In every game you play you can clearly see sharp points.straight edges everywhere, the best thing about FMV is that you can simply add in thousands of polygons to smooth things out the way they should be.

    The good thing about having more powerful hardware though is that technically the production cost should drop each console cycle, the more often the console cycle the cheaper the production cost per character/object is. Once we hit the crazy poly limits of FMVs then developers will never need to create any LODs, normals, bumps, etc whatsoever.

    Edit: In case people don't quite understand what I meant by "cheaper production costs per cycle", all developers create an FMV version of any model in-game first and use it for normal/bump maps via projection methods, the cost of production is all down to normal and bump mapping LODs, the lesser the power of a console the more LODs will have to be created. The more powerful the less amount of LODs are required.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
vBCredits II Deluxe v2.1.0 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2010-2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.