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    XBOX One 1st Party stuff better than ps4 according to Patcher

    Wedbush Securities analyst Michael Pachter believes that Xbox One has the stronger first-party launch lineup when compared to PlayStation 4.

    Speaking on the latest episode of Pach-Attack!, he said, "In my humble opinion, the first party stuff on the Xbox One is better than the first party stuff on the PS4." He then went on to highlight both Forza 5 and Dead Rising 3 as the two major standouts, noting the lack of a first-party racing game from Sony for PS4's launch.

    But despite the stronger launch lineup, Pachter still believes PS4 will outsell Xbox One this holiday. "I think Microsoft will sell fewer Xbox Ones than Sony will sell PS4s because of that $500 price point. That extra hundred bucks is almost two games you could buy instead. So I think a lot of gamers would rather save the hundred bucks."
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    Yeah.....that hundred bucks makes a difference.
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    Yeah, DriveClub being delayed really hurt the PS4s launch lineup. Though, IMO, it purely depends on the individual which lineup is truly better.

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    i think he means exclusives. First party means the manufacturer owns the studio. Crytek and Capcom are third party developers.

    Unless he's referring to the publisher...though i wouldn't consider that being first party per se.

    PS4 had a bunch of delays so its unsurprising. Planetside and Drive Club would've helped bolster the repertoire so to speak. Right now there's only Knack and KZ for first party offerings?

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    Well...it does. Sony has KZ and thats it.....although DR3 and ryse are seemingly getting panned by reviwers

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    Quote Originally Posted by three3-times View Post
    Well...it does. Sony has KZ and thats it.....although DR3 and ryse are seemingly getting panned by reviwers
    Well....hate it, but KZ isn't exactly lighting up the 8s and 9s in most reviews.
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    Quote Originally Posted by three3-times View Post
    DR3 and ryse are seemingly getting panned by reviwers
    DR3 is getting good reviews (78 on Metacritic), and we haven't seen any reviews for Ryse yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    DR3 is getting good reviews (78 on Metacritic), and we haven't seen any reviews for Ryse yet.
    Its not a next gen quality game albeit it being fun and ive seem several rumors that ryse is sexy but short......either way MS offers are better than Sonys at the start

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    Quote Originally Posted by three3-times View Post
    Well...it does. Sony has KZ and thats it.....although DR3 and ryse are seemingly getting panned by reviwers
    I hate when people just disregard Knack, as if it obviously sucks because its an old school beat em up platformer and not a FPS.
    Knack is awesome! I'ts a great game that is highly underrated.
    I would rather play Knack over Forza any day, without question.

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    Forza is doing well too. Mostly good scores.

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    Meh....multiplats are going to have the best scores for both consoles it looks like. Kinda disappointing.
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    People need to play DC Universe Online...

    No Planetside at launch was a huge pisseroff for me.
    Drive Club delay.... it's certainly not Engine related... that one surprised me.

    All of our 3rd Party games are better on PS4 though, and that's a HUUUGE problem for Microsoft....

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Willaford View Post
    People need to play DC Universe Online...

    No Planetside at launch was a huge pisseroff for me.
    Drive Club delay.... it's certainly not Engine related... that one surprised me.

    All of our 3rd Party games are better on PS4 though, and that's a HUUUGE problem for Microsoft....

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    Not true and obviously not a problem so far. So far, both COD games have the same score on metacritic for example.






    Metacritic so far:

    Knack---56
    KZ----73
    Resogun-----83



    KI----73
    Forza-----82
    DR3------78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    Not true and obviously not a problem so far. So far, both COD games have the same score on metacritic for example.






    Metacritic so far:

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    Dont forget that hyped up Crimson Dragon that some people have been waiting for. It's got a 55. :]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenix View Post
    Dont forget that hyped up Crimson Dragon that some people have been waiting for. It's got a 55. :]
    So what? I will still get it for only $20:00. People were waiting for Knack and it's reviews are no better and it cost $60.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    Not true and obviously not a problem so far. So far, both COD games have the same score on metacritic for example.






    Metacritic so far:

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    KI----73
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    DR3------78
    Lets see what NON META Critic says, you know, FANS who are playing games on XBO and see it on PS4 the next day? Let's go with that and see how people feel about paying $100 more for the experience MS wants to deliver that includes getting less graphic punch for your money for $100 more!

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Willaford View Post
    Lets see what NON META Critic says, you know, FANS who are playing games on XBO and see it on PS4 the next day? Let's go with that and see how people feel about paying $100 more for the experience MS wants to deliver that includes getting less graphic punch for your money for $100 more!
    When i look at games like Ryse and forza 5 I don't see less graphic punch. I think people care more about what they get for that 100 dollars. I expect to pay more because i'm getting more of the things that matter to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by PS4freak View Post
    So just because an exclusive franchise is not popular it doesn't count? Like you said it is the one of the best sports games out. It is a quality game. Just because it doesn't sell a ton doesn't mean it isn't a selling point for some. Your logic about exclusives is just all over the place right now. It's hard to follow.
    I never said that. I just expected more out of the gate from the one that supposedly has more of a focus on games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    When i look at games like Ryse and forza 5 I don't see less graphic punch. I think people care more about what they get for that 100 dollars. I expect to pay more because i'm getting more of the things that matter to me.


    I never said that. I just expected more out of the gate from the one that supposedly has more of a focus on games.
    But all in the same sense you are discrediting it because it isn't as popular as say Madden or FIFA. Sony offered it. What does that have to do with it being popular. You can't buy it on any non Sony platform. Just because it isn't popular it isn't any less an exclusive as Titanfall or Ryse.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    I never said that. I just expected more out of the gate from the one that supposedly has more of a focus on games.
    Erm what is this post?

    At the risk of your post not sounding trollish- please clarify what you did expect? 32 games from 16 studios at launch? Maybe 16 games in 6 months? Unicorns?

    What' ​is acceptable to you?


    And as mynd said above, the studios are more or less on par in terms of numbers. So apart from Forza, where are MS' 1st party stuff? Dead Rising 3 and Ryse are purchased, non-1st party (sorry Sub, I guess I'm moving the goal posts -it's only fair ).






    Oh, and you did say that- by saying MLB isn't "as popular" you are saying that. Otherwise, why else would you apply that qualifier? $#@!s and giggles?


    Here is your post again:
    I'd say it's very dry when you look at all the studios they have, and while MLB the show is a great baseball sim it's not a very popular game among sports titles. Its hands down the best baseball game but not near as popular as the soccer, football and basketball games are.
    IIRC, that quote from you, is in response to listing exclusives. Again, by saying "it's not as popular' is adding an extra layer of parameters, with no other logical reason but to say that it doesn't count.

    Therefore, what PS4freak summarised, is more or less accurate.
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    all of a sudden scores means something to you when it's convenient.

    well see about sales. oh wait. sales don't matter to you probably.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Serinous View Post
    all of a sudden scores means something to you when it's convenient.

    well see about sales. oh wait. sales don't matter to you probably.
    I just posted those for comparison since the thread is about games. I don't base my purchases on them. For example, knack is getting killed by reviewers but when I buy my ps4, i still will be getting that game.

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    I wonder how much supply MS has given to NA and UK markets? I'm looking at amazon for both markets(I know it's not the end all indicator) and the exclusive games aren't tracking too well.

    Amazon(US) doesn't have a xbone exclusive cracking the top 100 of 2013 yet. Call of duty is the only title and it's at #97

    Amazon(UK) doesn't have a xbone exclusive cracking the top 100 of 2013 yet. Call of duty is the only title and it's at #79

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    I wonder how much supply MS has given to NA and UK markets? I'm looking at amazon for both markets(I know it's not the end all indicator) and the exclusive games aren't tracking too well.

    Amazon(US) doesn't have a xbone exclusive cracking the top 100 of 2013 yet. Call of duty is the only title and it's at #97

    Amazon(UK) doesn't have a xbone exclusive cracking the top 100 of 2013 yet. Call of duty is the only title and it's at #79
    Doesn't mean anything. No one claimed one game was gonna outsell the other. It's more about what's available. Right now xb1 seems to have the edge on the launch titles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    Doesn't mean anything. No one claimed one game was gonna outsell the other. It's more about what's available. Right now xb1 seems to have the edge on the launch titles.
    It does mean something but I'm not going to get into that. I'm just saying people's purchasing habits don't seem to reflect that the better quality xbone games are all that important over lower scoring ps4 exclusives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    It does mean something but I'm not going to get into that. I'm just saying people's purchasing habits don't seem to reflect that the better quality xbone games are all that important over lower scoring ps4 exclusives.

    That's always been the case with games. Some people don't think COD is good but it still outsells 99% of games out there. People buy it because they like COD.

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