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    XBOX One 1st Party stuff better than ps4 according to Patcher

    Wedbush Securities analyst Michael Pachter believes that Xbox One has the stronger first-party launch lineup when compared to PlayStation 4.

    Speaking on the latest episode of Pach-Attack!, he said, "In my humble opinion, the first party stuff on the Xbox One is better than the first party stuff on the PS4." He then went on to highlight both Forza 5 and Dead Rising 3 as the two major standouts, noting the lack of a first-party racing game from Sony for PS4's launch.

    But despite the stronger launch lineup, Pachter still believes PS4 will outsell Xbox One this holiday. "I think Microsoft will sell fewer Xbox Ones than Sony will sell PS4s because of that $500 price point. That extra hundred bucks is almost two games you could buy instead. So I think a lot of gamers would rather save the hundred bucks."
    http://www.gamerevolution.com/news/p...-the-ps4-22691

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    Yeah, DriveClub being delayed really hurt the PS4s launch lineup. Though, IMO, it purely depends on the individual which lineup is truly better.

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    i think he means exclusives. First party means the manufacturer owns the studio. Crytek and Capcom are third party developers.

    Unless he's referring to the publisher...though i wouldn't consider that being first party per se.

    PS4 had a bunch of delays so its unsurprising. Planetside and Drive Club would've helped bolster the repertoire so to speak. Right now there's only Knack and KZ for first party offerings?

    regardless, everyone knows where the first party talent lies
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    Well...it does. Sony has KZ and thats it.....although DR3 and ryse are seemingly getting panned by reviwers

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    Quote Originally Posted by three3-times View Post
    Well...it does. Sony has KZ and thats it.....although DR3 and ryse are seemingly getting panned by reviwers
    Well....hate it, but KZ isn't exactly lighting up the 8s and 9s in most reviews.
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    Quote Originally Posted by three3-times View Post
    DR3 and ryse are seemingly getting panned by reviwers
    DR3 is getting good reviews (78 on Metacritic), and we haven't seen any reviews for Ryse yet.

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    Forza is doing well too. Mostly good scores.

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    Meh....multiplats are going to have the best scores for both consoles it looks like. Kinda disappointing.
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    People need to play DC Universe Online...

    No Planetside at launch was a huge pisseroff for me.
    Drive Club delay.... it's certainly not Engine related... that one surprised me.

    All of our 3rd Party games are better on PS4 though, and that's a HUUUGE problem for Microsoft....

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Willaford View Post
    People need to play DC Universe Online...

    No Planetside at launch was a huge pisseroff for me.
    Drive Club delay.... it's certainly not Engine related... that one surprised me.

    All of our 3rd Party games are better on PS4 though, and that's a HUUUGE problem for Microsoft....

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    Not true and obviously not a problem so far. So far, both COD games have the same score on metacritic for example.






    Metacritic so far:

    Knack---56
    KZ----73
    Resogun-----83



    KI----73
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    DR3------78
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    all of a sudden scores means something to you when it's convenient.

    well see about sales. oh wait. sales don't matter to you probably.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Serinous View Post
    all of a sudden scores means something to you when it's convenient.

    well see about sales. oh wait. sales don't matter to you probably.
    I just posted those for comparison since the thread is about games. I don't base my purchases on them. For example, knack is getting killed by reviewers but when I buy my ps4, i still will be getting that game.

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    I wonder how much supply MS has given to NA and UK markets? I'm looking at amazon for both markets(I know it's not the end all indicator) and the exclusive games aren't tracking too well.

    Amazon(US) doesn't have a xbone exclusive cracking the top 100 of 2013 yet. Call of duty is the only title and it's at #97

    Amazon(UK) doesn't have a xbone exclusive cracking the top 100 of 2013 yet. Call of duty is the only title and it's at #79

    Destiny and Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor is all I need for the rest of the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    I wonder how much supply MS has given to NA and UK markets? I'm looking at amazon for both markets(I know it's not the end all indicator) and the exclusive games aren't tracking too well.

    Amazon(US) doesn't have a xbone exclusive cracking the top 100 of 2013 yet. Call of duty is the only title and it's at #97

    Amazon(UK) doesn't have a xbone exclusive cracking the top 100 of 2013 yet. Call of duty is the only title and it's at #79
    Doesn't mean anything. No one claimed one game was gonna outsell the other. It's more about what's available. Right now xb1 seems to have the edge on the launch titles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    DR3 is getting good reviews (78 on Metacritic), and we haven't seen any reviews for Ryse yet.
    Its not a next gen quality game albeit it being fun and ive seem several rumors that ryse is sexy but short......either way MS offers are better than Sonys at the start

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    Doesn't mean anything. No one claimed one game was gonna outsell the other. It's more about what's available. Right now xb1 seems to have the edge on the launch titles.
    It does mean something but I'm not going to get into that. I'm just saying people's purchasing habits don't seem to reflect that the better quality xbone games are all that important over lower scoring ps4 exclusives.

    Destiny and Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor is all I need for the rest of the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    It does mean something but I'm not going to get into that. I'm just saying people's purchasing habits don't seem to reflect that the better quality xbone games are all that important over lower scoring ps4 exclusives.

    That's always been the case with games. Some people don't think COD is good but it still outsells 99% of games out there. People buy it because they like COD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    It does mean something but I'm not going to get into that. I'm just saying people's purchasing habits don't seem to reflect that the better quality xbone games are all that important over lower scoring ps4 exclusives.
    I gamers learned something from ps3/360 era, that is which will have good games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    Not true and obviously not a problem so far. So far, both COD games have the same score on metacritic for example.






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    lol that's no secret Pachter.

    Let's wait for a few years before making it definitive shall we?

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    I was going to write something about Sony's up and coming line up being better but I suddenly realised I have no idea what the hell they are doing next year beyond Second Son and The Order.

    On the other hand, MS seems to have telegraphed their message already, as I awoke to articles about Phil Spencer already discussing Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive, Titan Fall, Fable and Max:The Curse of brotherhood.
    (http://www.polygon.com/2013/11/19/51...ncer-interview)

    Sony needs to start doing the same I think.


    Also, isn't Destiny still a timed exclusive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    I was going to write something about Sony's up and coming line up being better but I suddenly realised I have no idea what the hell they are doing next year beyond Second Son and The Order.

    On the other hand, MS seems to have telegraphed their message already, as I awoke to articles about Phil Spencer already discussing Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive, Titan Fall, Fable and Max:The Curse of brotherhood.
    (http://www.polygon.com/2013/11/19/51...ncer-interview)

    Sony needs to start doing the same I think.


    Also, isn't Destiny still a timed exclusive?
    Aaah - I guess the good old days of people telling Sony (those who don't buy Sony or don't particularly favour Sony) to stop pre-announcing games too early and hold off for a bit, are over eh?

    That's exactly what they used to do. And got blasted for it even in these very forums.

    Damned if you do, and damned.... well you know the rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    I was going to write something about Sony's up and coming line up being better but I suddenly realised I have no idea what the hell they are doing next year beyond Second Son and The Order.

    On the other hand, MS seems to have telegraphed their message already, as I awoke to articles about Phil Spencer already discussing Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive, Titan Fall, Fable and Max:The Curse of brotherhood.
    (http://www.polygon.com/2013/11/19/51...ncer-interview)

    Sony needs to start doing the same I think.


    Also, isn't Destiny still a timed exclusive?
    Don't forget Drive Club and Planetside 2

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    We all know most consoles undergo a drought after launch, sometimes lasting up to a year or even longer. It has happened to almost every console.

    But for the PS4, there won't be a huge drought at all. 2014 has a great line up. I'm listing them in rough order of when they will should release.

    *denotes an exclusive, exclusive content, or console exclusivity.


    2014

    *DriveClub
    *PlanetSide 2
    Thief
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    *Deep Down
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    *MLB: The Show '14
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    *Mad Max
    Dragon Age: Inquisition
    The Crew
    The Witcher 3
    *The Order: 1886
    The Division
    Call of Duty: BOIII (or new subtitle for next-gen)
    *Uncharted 4


    Pretty much all of those have been confirmed for 2014. Uncharted obviously isn't confirmed for 2014, but they released the last 3 Uncharted games in October/November, so that's a good bet.

    There's also a chance Final Fantasy XV comes out in 2014 (in Japan at least). As well as rumors of Far Cry 4. This list will get bigger after the VGX award show on Spike in a few weeks.


    PSN Games
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    *FlOw
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    *Rime
    *Transistor
    *Everybodys Gone to Rapture
    *Shadow of the Beast
    *Hell Divers
    *Doki Doki Universe
    *Secret Ponchos

    and many many more. People often disregard Indie games, but they are often some of the highest rated games.
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