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    Xbone costs $90 more to build than PS4

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    You should quote the person instead of forcing us to go to another forum to see their post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lethal_NFS View Post
    You should quote the person instead of forcing us to go to another forum to see their post.
    Neogaf poster Jarmel:

    "Somebody $#@!ed up.

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    also, sony paid less for the superior GPU while ms paid more for the gimped GPU

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    25+pg gaf thread incoming guyz

    this thread: 5 lol

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    looks like a kinect-less xbone is out the question

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    looks like a kinect-less xbone is out the question
    dat ESRAM. o_O

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    Saw some of the neogaf responses like "So the console is still more costly to make minus the kinect?" Uh....yeah, how did that happen?
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    this is not good.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
    Saw some of the neogaf responses like "So the console is still more costly to make minus the kinect?" Uh....yeah, how did that happen?
    no way, is it really? lol ouch

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    Left: PS4
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    Notice how much space the ESRAM takes up.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgotha View Post
    Left: PS4
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    Notice how much space the ESRAM takes up.

    damn man

    ms aint no experts when it comes to hardware design

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    Such bad research.
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    So basically...IBM makes the $#@! for them...they don't actually design it, right?

    I find it hard to believe that it costs more to make...how is that even possible? is there stuff in the X1 we don't know about? how much would the ESRAM cost? It has a low grade RAM in there, then the GPU isn't as powerful, the thing doesn't look they spent money to make it look smaller.

    i mean, what is there that's costing all this money?

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    So minus Kinect it is still $15 more to make? Can't say I saw this coming.




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    As long as they financially back the console like they did with the 360, I could care less what it costs them to make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatSpaceKoaster View Post
    As long as they financially back the console like they did with the 360, I could care less what it costs them to make.
    you should care because that's cost that you're paying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    you should care because that's cost that you're paying.
    No... they are. Those prices don't fully include R & D costs and marketing. They have to make that up somehow. Either by the console buyer or subsidized by their Windows money. My guess is mainly through Windows money for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatSpaceKoaster View Post
    No... they are. Those prices don't fully include R & D costs and marketing. They have to make that up somehow. Either by the console buyer or subsidized by their Windows money. My guess is mainly through Windows money for now.
    oh trust me it does even if indirectly. Add in Kinect costs. I’m fairly sure that was part of the cost, and getting azure ready for the X1. It’s all part of the bigger picture. The amount of research they put into the product, they will align their profit margins accordingly. Every company looks at how much the product will cost and how much they will get back in what time frame. Otherwise games would not cost more than a few bucks. Those discs are cheap…DD is cheaper.

    The overall costs will affect price cut, bundle deals, exclusive deals, content deals etc. it’s all pre-configured. Why do you think PS3 could never lower their prices on time? Blu-ray was the main problem but the bigger picture was that they needed to make profit for the fiscal year, more importantly they also needed to at least break even for the total costs. Which I don’t know if they ever did. All I know is that they called the PS3 a disaster if memory serves me right.

    Of course cell wasn’t built for the PS3, neither was the blu-ray but the thing still was in development for a good number of years and its design was too specialized, which didn’t pay off in the end.

    Yes, it’s more important “when” those price cuts happen but total costs matters in the end because budgets are finite. What they don’t spend on the research, can be spent on marketing, what isn’t spent on marketing, can be spent on exclusive deals, and so on with in-house development > buying a new company for future development. It’s all about how you allocate your overall resources. MS as a whole might help out the company come out of disastrous situations but they ain’t sittin’ there giving them free checks.

    It’s the same thing I said back when people were jumping up and down arguing that X1 can’t possibly be less powerful than the PS4 because MS has deep pockets. Lol.

    e.g. that TV thing MS is doing? You’re paying for that. If they had priced the X1 $499 without the TV feature, they would’ve at least been able to lower the price quicker. Same goes for Kinect. And you are paying for these features because they’re reserving power from your console. So if you love these features, more power to you, if not, your s is out of l. and here I was pissed off about the share button on the controller thinking sharing was going to cost money lol…I’m a bit critical when it comes to opportunity costs.

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    you mean $90 lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    you mean $90 lol.
    Um, no. I paid $499.99 for the console and it costs $471 to make.




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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    Um, no. I paid $499.99 for the console and it costs $471 to make.
    my perspective was wrong lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    oh trust me it does even if indirectly. Add in Kinect costs. I’m fairly sure that was part of the cost, and getting azure ready for the X1. It’s all part of the bigger picture. The amount of research they put into the product, they will align their profit margins accordingly. Every company looks at how much the product will cost and how much they will get back in what time frame. Otherwise games would not cost more than a few bucks. Those discs are cheap…DD is cheaper.

    The overall costs will affect price cut, bundle deals, exclusive deals, content deals etc. it’s all pre-configured. Why do you think PS3 could never lower their prices on time? Blu-ray was the main problem but the bigger picture was that they needed to make profit for the fiscal year, more importantly they also needed to at least break even for the total costs. Which I don’t know if they ever did. All I know is that they called the PS3 a disaster if memory serves me right.

    Of course cell wasn’t built for the PS3, neither was the blu-ray but the thing still was in development for a good number of years and its design was too specialized, which didn’t pay off in the end.

    Yes, it’s more important “when” those price cuts happen but total costs matters in the end because budgets are finite. What they don’t spend on the research, can be spent on marketing, what isn’t spent on marketing, can be spent on exclusive deals, and so on with in-house development > buying a new company for future development. It’s all about how you allocate your overall resources. MS as a whole might help out the company come out of disastrous situations but they ain’t sittin’ there giving them free checks.

    It’s the same thing I said back when people were jumping up and down arguing that X1 can’t possibly be less powerful than the PS4 because MS has deep pockets. Lol.

    e.g. that TV thing MS is doing? You’re paying for that. If they had priced the X1 $499 without the TV feature, they would’ve at least been able to lower the price quicker. Same goes for Kinect. And you are paying for these features because they’re reserving power from your console. So if you love these features, more power to you, if not, your s is out of l. and here I was pissed off about the share button on the controller thinking sharing was going to cost money lol…I’m a bit critical when it comes to opportunity costs.
    I would be very surprised if there wasn't some price cut/price reduction promotion for the X1 sometime in 2014. I would also be surprised if MS didn't have an aggressive strategy for cost reduction regarding the X1 hardware/ components.

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