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    This is ridiculous. Does Sony not want there to be any PS4s available during Christmas? And what the hell do I have to do to get a damn text message from Amazon when they get PS4s available?!!??! I'm tired of playing the guessing game. *sigh*

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    Quote Originally Posted by skyballin View Post
    This is ridiculous. Does Sony not want there to be any PS4s available during Christmas? And what the hell do I have to do to get a damn text message from Amazon when they get PS4s available?!!??! I'm tired of playing the guessing game. *sigh*
    Don't use Amazon for notification use something like this http://www.nowinstock.net/videogaming/consoles/ps4/. I have also hear/read that Walmart, Frys and maybe some other retailers are holding stock for this Sunday like Best Buy did this past Sunday.
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    Anyone want to make a betting thread when PS4 will regularly be available on store shelves and online warehouses?




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    I'm betting readily available by mid feb.possibly by end of January. It's going to catch up a bit after the holidays.




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    My local Tesco store had 10 in yesterday and they where all snapped up within half an hour!

    Man they are selling out fast!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HellsJester View Post
    Anyone want to make a betting thread when PS4 will regularly be available on store shelves and online warehouses?
    not til mid next year lol




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    Argos had 9 in for Reserve & collect today at one of my local stores but I couldn't bring myself to Buying one , Just gonna wait till more games are out for it ,Funny thing is I have twice went round every game shop in Town trying to find one now :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by skyballin View Post
    This is ridiculous. Does Sony not want there to be any PS4s available during Christmas? And what the hell do I have to do to get a damn text message from Amazon when they get PS4s available?!!??! I'm tired of playing the guessing game. *sigh*
    Sure, they could have upset the userbase like MS and put them off buying the system. There is a limit to how fast you can make systems and the demand as far out passed that limit, I'm sure Sony would never had guessed at the number of high profile own goals MS had done thats swapped many from MS to PS.

    Also pre-orders went up in loads of time, so anyone who is moaning they can not walk in a store and just pick one up only as self to blame im sorry to say.

    Its also a fact its been by far the biggest ever system launch and if Sony could have kept pace with demand i think we would have been looking at 4 million plus sold already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John25 View Post
    Argos had 9 in for Reserve & collect today at one of my local stores but I couldn't bring myself to Buying one , Just gonna wait till more games are out for it ,Funny thing is I have twice went round every game shop in Town trying to find one now :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by C.Birch View Post
    Sure, they could have upset the userbase like MS and put them off buying the system. There is a limit to how fast you can make systems and the demand as far out passed that limit, I'm sure Sony would never had guessed at the number of high profile own goals MS had done thats swapped many from MS to PS.

    Also pre-orders went up in loads of time, so anyone who is moaning they can not walk in a store and just pick one up only as self to blame im sorry to say.

    Its also a fact its been by far the biggest ever system launch and if Sony could have kept pace with demand i think we would have been looking at 4 million plus sold already.
    What's the limit on how fast Sony can make the system?

    The next point.. pre-orders. It is ones self to blame? Hell, a lot of people that pre-ordered haven't been able to get their system yet. So no, it isn't any single consumer to blame as to why they can't get a system today.

    Fact of biggest console launch? No. That is pure supposition. What Sony have put forth as a fact is that the PS4 is the biggest PLAYSTATION launch of all time. They can't remotely even claim what anyone else have sold, or that it would be lower than what they've sold. 4 million plus? LOL. Puhlease... Might as well say, 10 million, because that has as much guessing painted on it as the 4 million.




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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    What's the limit on how fast Sony can make the system?

    The next point.. pre-orders. It is ones self to blame? Hell, a lot of people that pre-ordered haven't been able to get their system yet. So no, it isn't any single consumer to blame as to why they can't get a system today.

    Fact of biggest console launch? No. That is pure supposition. What Sony have put forth as a fact is that the PS4 is the biggest PLAYSTATION launch of all time. They can't remotely even claim what anyone else have sold, or that it would be lower than what they've sold. 4 million plus? LOL. Puhlease... Might as well say, 10 million, because that has as much guessing painted on it as the 4 million.
    There is always a limit on how fast you can make something, without setting up total new lines for making the system, then you got the parts, you can only make systems with all the parts needed, Staff, you need staff to make things last time i checked, Time.

    Read what i said without trying to twist it, i clearly pointed out that if people think they can just walk in to a shop and pick one up with no per-order. The warnings have been there for months that it was going sell out, per-orders started back in May, if you did not per-order and think you can just go and get one at launch, you can not blame Sony for that, can only blame yourself.

    How can you say its not the fact that its the biggest system launch, when the numbers clearly show that in its opening weeks it as sold more than any other system had sold in the same time, them numbers are official numbers and not numbers Sony have hand picked.

    And you think 4 Million is a joke target? if Sony had the systems ready to replace stock as fast as they sold out? Fact is it sold over 2 million already (Over 1 Million in 1 day US, Other 1 Million in 2 days in EU), Fact its been sold out for weeks, Fact and you even said it yourself there is still outstanding per-orders waiting for new stock and all this is before Joe public can get hold of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C.Birch View Post
    There is always a limit on how fast you can make something, without setting up total new lines for making the system, then you got the parts, you can only make systems with all the parts needed, Staff, you need staff to make things last time i checked, Time.

    Read what i said without trying to twist it, i clearly pointed out that if people think they can just walk in to a shop and pick one up with no per-order. The warnings have been there for months that it was going sell out, per-orders started back in May, if you did not per-order and think you can just go and get one at launch, you can not blame Sony for that, can only blame yourself.

    How can you say its not the fact that its the biggest system launch, when the numbers clearly show that in its opening weeks it as sold more than any other system had sold in the same time, them numbers are official numbers and not numbers Sony have hand picked.

    And you think 4 Million is a joke target? if Sony had the systems ready to replace stock as fast as they sold out? Fact is it sold over 2 million already (Over 1 Million in 1 day US, Other 1 Million in 2 days in EU), Fact its been sold out for weeks, Fact and you even said it yourself there is still outstanding per-orders waiting for new stock and all this is before Joe public can get hold of it.
    I'm not twisting anything. The blame is on Sony for not having enough systems being out there, and for retailers holding back systems for their own benefits. Nothing to do with a consumer being at blame for not being able to get one.

    Fact that it's the biggest launch, based on the numbers ONLY Sony have released? That isn't fact. That's guessing. Sony guesses that Microsoft numbers aren't more than theirs? What is the launch time frame to determine whether a company has the biggest launch? Do you know that?

    I don't think it's a JOKE, about 4 million. I said it's a GUESS. That is all it is, a guess. I mean, you can call it an "IF" all day long. If Sony had 4 million units, and IF they sold out.. if if guess guess.




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    Yep even setting up a new Manufacturing Line isn't as simple as just buying Machines/Parts & Staff a new factory would have to first get Familiar with Build Specs then build Samples that would have to pass before it that factory could go into mass production ,I worked in an Automotive Electronics Engineering factory a couple years back that was in the Process of transfering it's Work to a new factory in Hungary and even after the factory was setup ready it still took them over 6 months to build a Sample Build that was a Pass & that was with a team of Engineers over there Setting the Machines up & training the new Staff

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    Quote Originally Posted by John25 View Post
    Yep even setting up a new Manufacturing Line isn't as simple as just buying Machines/Parts & Staff a new factory would have to first get Familiar with Build Specs then build Samples that would have to pass before it that factory could go into mass production ,I worked in an Automotive Electronics Engineering factory a couple years back that was in the Process of transfering it's Work to a new factory in Hungary and even after the factory was setup ready it still took them over 6 months to build a Sample Build that was a Pass & that was with a team of Engineers over there Setting the Machines up & training the new Staff
    Been there, done that.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryunosuke View Post
    Don't use Amazon for notification use something like this http://www.nowinstock.net/videogaming/consoles/ps4/. I have also hear/read that Walmart, Frys and maybe some other retailers are holding stock for this Sunday like Best Buy did this past Sunday.
    That's a great site. Thanks, much appreciated.

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    http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/...dd82a3e49cen02

    Apparently it's in stock. And in Futureshop.

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    I got an email this morning from Gamestop that they had them in Stock. Don't think they are there now.




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    Quote Originally Posted by PS4freak View Post
    I got an email this morning from Gamestop that they had them in Stock. Don't think they are there now.
    I got the same ema8l. I called my local store and they were out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John25 View Post
    Yep even setting up a new Manufacturing Line isn't as simple as just buying Machines/Parts & Staff a new factory would have to first get Familiar with Build Specs then build Samples that would have to pass before it that factory could go into mass production ,I worked in an Automotive Electronics Engineering factory a couple years back that was in the Process of transfering it's Work to a new factory in Hungary and even after the factory was setup ready it still took them over 6 months to build a Sample Build that was a Pass & that was with a team of Engineers over there Setting the Machines up & training the new Staff
    Longest sentence ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duffman1986 View Post
    Looks like quite a few places are getting them in stock now, good news for anyone looking to get one before Christmas!
    Yeah I'm thinking this is their year end push. Good news for those in need though for sure.




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    Quote Originally Posted by PS4freak View Post
    Yeah I'm thinking this is their year end push. Good news for those in need though for sure.
    Not heard of many more faulty one's either which is good news!
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