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    Quote Originally Posted by rene2kx View Post
    i was talking about numbers and the ps4 won't be lighting up the charts in japan/asia in future either. market perception as regards hardcore gaming has changed a lot in the past couple of years. perhaps, that is why sony didn't bother launching ps4 until this year in japan and there are still many asian territories where they have yet to launch. they aren't catering to the asian market like they did with earlier ps consoles and there is an obvious reason for that. from a business perspective, they'd be better off putting the major chunk of resources towards the western market.
    Let's bet our accounts, I say the ps4 will do better than the ps3 did in Japan. Are you game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungMullah88 View Post
    Let's bet our accounts, I say the ps4 will do better than the ps3 did in Japan. Are you game?

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    it will just do decent numbers and keep chugging along with a temporary spike for a week or two when a big name japanese title drops. during the launch week, there was considerable demand but the following weeks it eased down and the ps4 was beaten by the wii u for three weeks. This is the first time sony has released a home console in japan much later than western territories. ps1, 2 and 3 all saw an earlier release in japan. this is because sony now ascertains the market conditions and how much the gamer base in japan as well as rest of asia has transitioned to a more casual base once the tablet/smartphone mania kicked in.

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    ....and I just said to put your account where your mouth is Lol. Put it on the line, if you are so sure

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    yeah, we know Japan is becoming more casual. however, there's no reason to believe that it will do worse than PS3, Wii U or even the Wii. PS4 is fairly cheap compared to the PS3, and PS3 didn't do bad against the Wii. PS4 has been Sony's most successful console yet...so i think they will at least do better than the Wii and with higher price too.

    but yeah, there's nothing left in Japan. the market has shrunk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungMullah88 View Post
    ....and I just said to put your account where your mouth is Lol. Put it on the line, if you are so sure

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    wager some $$$ and then i'll be in. account bet eh, seems like you are trying to play safe there, cos you know even if you lose you'll hop in with an alternate handle the next day lol.

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    Don't have an alternate handle, if this account gets banned, I'm done with psu. I hate starting over. Anyways put the account on the line! Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungMullah88 View Post
    Don't have an alternate handle, if this account gets banned, I'm done with psu. I hate starting over. Anyways put the account on the line! Lol

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    weak proposition but ok i'll take it. lifetime sales of the ps4 v ps3 until sony supports both. and do you only want to bet on japan or the entire asian gaming market? the current market trends are pretty much the same as japan with ipads and samsung galaxies shooting up and dedicated consoles on a continous downward spiral.

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    Which ever floats your boat

    ...You said Japan/asia

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    FYI. PS4 sold 2.5x the XBone in NPD for May. Watch Dogs also sold more on PS4 than any other platform it was out on, including Gen7.

    Figured I'd keep ya'll up to date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefein View Post
    FYI. PS4 sold 2.5x the XBone in NPD for May. Watch Dogs also sold more on PS4 than any other platform it was out on, including Gen7.

    Figured I'd keep ya'll up to date.
    Though is that more because people stopped buying the X1, waiting for the kinect less one, rather than a increase for ps4?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sajuuk Khar View Post
    Though is that more because people stopped buying the X1, waiting for the kinect less one, rather than a increase for ps4?
    Think that was announced half way through the month so the other two weeks is just cause it isn't selling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sajuuk Khar View Post
    Though is that more because people stopped buying the X1, waiting for the kinect less one, rather than a increase for ps4?
    Well did they announce the price drop in anticipation of how badly they were doing? and just said $#@! it, it can't get any worse than this

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    So what are the actual numbers then? Anyone got a link to the source?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TidalPhoenix View Post
    So what are the actual numbers then? Anyone got a link to the source?
    Don't know exact numbers
    PS4 - 170k - 200k
    Xbone - 68k - 80k

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bitbydeath View Post
    Don't know exact numbers
    PS4 - 170k - 200k
    Xbone - 68k - 80k

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    Well thats just awful all round.


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    May-June is never a strong period. I think the PS4 numbers are fine for the period we're in. Xbox One though is poor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bitbydeath View Post
    Don't know exact numbers
    PS4 - 170k - 200k
    Xbone - 68k - 80k

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    pretty low on both sides, but it's that time of the year




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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Well thats just awful all round.


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    June is going to be a strong indicator. If X1 can't match or over come PS4 this month, with the price and kinect drop, MS has a much deeper problem on their hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Well thats just awful all round.


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    Actually, PS4 numbers are about average for the month of May compared to previous years of 360/PS3 sales.

    Numbers from gaf;

    PS4 ~ 197k
    3DS ~ 97k
    XB1 ~ 77k
    Wii U ~ 61k
    360 ~ 57k
    PSV ~ 56k
    PS3 ~ 36k
    Wii ~ 11k
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Well thats just awful all round.
    Haha, awful for who? Certainly not the guy who sold 2.5x its nearest competitor :P
    These are going to be dark days for Microsoft, if gamers hold off a little longer we could see a $299US Xbox One.

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    wish we had yoy numbers because otherwise it's hard to know if X1 is doing better than itself from previously or not. can't just compare month-to-month sometimes because well you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Well thats just awful all round.


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    Not really. The same month after the 360 launched, it sold 221k (May, 2006). Just saying. PS4 is showing excellent momentum in the US market. At just under 200k, it is keeping pace while the XBone has very clearly lost marketshare for MS in its largest territory.

    As for people waiting for price cuts? Plenty of retailers were slashing prices for unmoved units in May. Getting a bundled Kinect and a game for $50 more was supposed to be a bigger enticement than a stripped down SKU, in all honesty. June's NPD may not be the savior that XBox fans are looking for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefein View Post
    Not really. The same month after the 360 launched, it sold 221k (May, 2006). Just saying. PS4 is showing excellent momentum in the US market.
    well 360 is a good reference as MS keeps using it as one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
    Actually, PS4 numbers are about average for the month of May compared to previous years of 360/PS3 sales.

    Numbers from gaf;

    PS4 ~ 197k
    3DS ~ 97k
    XB1 ~ 77k
    Wii U ~ 61k
    360 ~ 57k
    PSV ~ 56k
    PS3 ~ 36k
    Wii ~ 11k
    If the 360 could pull 220k in it's first May and the PS3 86k, I would have expected that to have grown (given all blah blah about these machines being faster selling).

    197+77 is less than 220k+86k.
    The market appears to me to be down .
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