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    PS4 selling 3 to 1 vs XBO at Amazon

    The stats aren't from just some neogaf poster, it is the gaf site owners. In number of units, the PS4 was outselling the XBO by 3 to 1 for the time there was availability. The end of calendar year is probably going to show the same ratio overall.

    PlayStation 4′s Selling 3 to 1 vs. Xbox One on Amazon

    The PlayStation 4 has been a hot item every time it goes on sale at any retailer, online or brick and mortar. The Xbox One is also selling at respectable numbers, but the trends have been pointing to Sony’s PlayStation 4 doing much better sales-wise whenever the console is in stock.

    NeoGaf users have been all over the recent availability of the PlayStation 4 on Amazon, and have been comparing the numbers against the Xbox One’s units available over time. How? As long as the number of units available are under 999, one can add in any amount to their cart and see the left-over amounts showing actual quantities available. Doing this same method for any next gen consoles/bundles will give them enough available data to create some very interesting metrics.
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    This is quite the interesting revelation when using actual data available from Amazon. It gives us a concrete sample to see an actual trend of PlayStation 4 sales vs Xbox One on Amazon for the given time period.

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    Only sales that matter are what sony and MS reports. People give gaf too much credit.

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    PS4 selling 3 to 1 vs XBO at Amazon

    Can't say I'd surprised at all, if it turns out to be true. Microsoft have been on the back foot ever since the reveal for the XBO. All the negativity surrounding the XBO from the start, even although Microsoft backtracked on issues like DRM, is obviously having an effect on sales imo


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    Yeah I'm quite intrigued to see some official figures, though unexpected I can't say I'm surprised if these figures turned out to be accurate. As Gers said, with all the negative publicity and whatnot since reveal Microsoft seem to have been fighting a losing battle.
    Every 'feature' I can recall being revealed was torn to shreds by critics and fans alike.

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    If it's true then thats great.

    I love my PS4 but I don't want the X1 to do too bad or we won't have any competition and thats not good for anyone.

    All in all...I'm loving the PS4. To be honest, considering so many ppl are jumping ship (I'm guessing) from MS, it's a little surprising. I mean, thats an awful lot of ppl that have friends or teams or whatever on their LIVE account that are going to another whole system.

    I guess that just goes to show that if you give ppl what they want they will do whatever it takes.

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    Doesn't surprise me that the PS4 is selling more. Definitely the better system.

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    The sales from the gaf thread are about right. I followed the thread and was watching the sale live.

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    Speculation numbers, but it wouldn't surprise me if that was accurate. I'll take Gaf numbers with a grain of salt.




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    What gaf did isn't speculation, it was taking available numbers as soon as available units showed up and kept taking available units numbers as they were being sold. This was for the last big shipment for Amazon and still get it there by Christmas. The PS4 standard console started with about 900 available and sold out in about an hour. There were about 900 PS4 BF4 bundles and about 200 Killzone bundles. Those took longer to sell out, about 3 hours. Combined, this shipment to Amazon was 2000 PS4 sold in 3 hours. The XBO availability didn't start until an hour after the PS4, with 500 XBO standard units. After 5 hours, it looks like about 200 left.

    So, for the last big shipment to Amazon to deliver by Christmas was 2000 PS4 sold in 3 hours and 500 XBO that look like they are still available or on the shelf after Christmas. Looks like the PS4 sold 4 times more and 4 times faster than the XBO. Really a big indicator to the end of the calendar year numbers. Also, Best Buy has reported getting their last big pre-Christmas shipments. Sony said they were going to deliver as many units as they could before Christmas and through the end of the calendar year.
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    Good news but I wonder how much of this is down to the price of the 2 systems.....

    Don't get me wrong I love my PS4 and glad it's doing better than the X1 but I wonder what the numbers would read if both systems where the same price!
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    They are trying to extrapolate on the basis of limited data and small sample size. The graph they have above there is depicting availability for a few hours on one day on amazon. Also, amazon stock is not the only indicator for console sales. Not that the ps4 couldn't be ahead in sales, but i don't really put much weight behind that 'research'. Npd figures should be interesting.

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    Even if this data isn't 100% reliable or accurate, I wouldn't be surprised if it was fairly close to the truth. PS4 is in way more demand than X1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
    Even if this data isn't 100% reliable or accurate, I wouldn't be surprised if it was fairly close to the truth. PS4 is in way more demand than X1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rene2kx View Post
    They are trying to extrapolate on the basis of limited data and small sample size. The graph they have above there is depicting availability for a few hours on one day on amazon. Also, amazon stock is not the only indicator for console sales. Not that the ps4 couldn't be ahead in sales, but i don't really put much weight behind that 'research'. Npd figures should be interesting.
    It is a small sample size, from a short period of time. BUT Amazon sales data has been reasonably representative in the past. They are such a big retailer that general trends tend to be mirrored on their service. Further the time period was the Christmas last run. Which again is very indicative of what people want. I'm not going to go as far as to suggest that these numbers can be extrapolated to create accurate sales comparisons, but they can be used to show trends.
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    Umm, I tried to follow thi sbut it ddint make any sense to me.

    1/ Isnt the PS4 quite often sold out at Amazon, I am assuming that is why there is so few sample point.

    2/ If it is sold out in between points, then you cant simply draw a friigin straight line between two sample points.

    3/ This should be a tally of totals ie sample points x units sold.

    4/ The XBO has a bucket load more sample points so I have to assume its more available?

    Any way, this "graph" was non-nonsensical. It also does not take into account any sort of stock replenishment.
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    I would just wait for official numbers from Sony and MS.

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    Being a Sony fan it's awesome seeing them do well but in the end honestly who gives a **** about numbers as long as we enjoy our consoles and game on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Effekt View Post
    Being a Sony fan it's awesome seeing them do well but in the end honestly who gives a **** about numbers as long as we enjoy our consoles and game on?
    The Devs do for one. They tend (not always) to favor the console with higher sales since it's more likely to sell more copies of their games. This could mean some games not releasing on one console, or a game being more likely to have be of higher quality and even more features/content.
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    The Devs do for one. They tend (not always) to favor the console with higher sales since it's more likely to sell more copies of their games. This could mean some games not releasing on one console, or a game being more likely to have be of higher quality and even more features/content.
    I don't think that happened between the PS3/360, and I doubt we'll see anything like that throughout this entire generation. These numbers don't even really mean much in the scheme of actual sales.




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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    I don't think that happened between the PS3/360, and I doubt we'll see anything like that throughout this entire generation. These numbers don't even really mean much in the scheme of actual sales.
    Yeah, the sales of both the PS4 and X1 will be enough that third party devs are going to support both for the most part. And even if one console totally dominated the other (which I don't think will happen) the basic architectures are similar enough that it would probably still be cost-effective to create versions for both consoles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    I don't think that happened between the PS3/360, and I doubt we'll see anything like that throughout this entire generation. These numbers don't even really mean much in the scheme of actual sales.
    that's true. what's more important are the setup, policies, infrastructure (<all of them for developers), services (<consumers).

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