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    Xbox One has a lot more problems right now (and some not likely going to get better relatively moving forward) than cost and kinect. it would take me an entire page to give a summary of it. let's not ignore the big elephant in the room now

    "relative" is the key word to X1's issues that will still exist in the future.

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    Over 3 million Xbox One consoles were sold to consumers in 13 countries before the end of 2013.
    http://news.xbox.com/2014/01/xbox-one-january-thank-you

    They aren't just sitting on store shelfs I guess. NPD should be interesting.

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    I think MS was better prepared supply wise and I think thats going to show with the X1 outselling the PS4 tbh. Makes me wonder who really had the better chip yields.

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    I think it will be closer than what most thought, that's for sure, but I still expect Sony to get say, 3.3 or 3.5 million.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
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    They aren't just sitting on store shelfs I guess. NPD should be interesting.
    They can easily sell well and be out on the shelf at the same time. I'm fairly sure that the lack of PS4 supply helped the X1, again, not trying to knock the X1 down, that's what I believe firmly. looking at the demand of the PS4 and that it's likely neck-to-neck and barely lasts in stores after a couple of hours, fairly easy to see what's going on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    They can easily sell well and be out on the shelf at the same time. I'm fairly sure that the lack of PS4 supply helped the X1, again, not trying to knock the X1 down, that's what I believe firmly. looking at the demand of the PS4 and that it's likely neck-to-neck and barely lasts in stores after a couple of hours, fairly easy to see what's going on here.
    Well that is what I've been saying, but people kept telling me the XBO wasn't moving stock at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    They can easily sell well and be out on the shelf at the same time. I'm fairly sure that the lack of PS4 supply helped the X1, again, not trying to knock the X1 down, that's what I believe firmly. looking at the demand of the PS4 and that it's likely neck-to-neck and barely lasts in stores after a couple of hours, fairly easy to see what's going on here.
    Yep I think its impossible to accurately judge demand until at least Sony is able to manufacture and ship enough consoles to adequately meet demand. I figure by March or April that will happen. When youre able to walk into any store and scoop one up. MS was definitely better prepared.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Well that is what I've been saying, but people kept telling me the XBO wasn't moving stock at all.
    oh yea, i was saying the same thing. we're going to get a better reading in a few months once the supply normalizes. i still think PS4 likely outsold WW but probably not by much. well played MS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Well that is what I've been saying, but people kept telling me the XBO wasn't moving stock at all.
    Yeah thats just people talking. My local Gamestop cant keep either console in stock. Ancedotal I know. lol But with 3million sold before the end of 2013 I would say MS is moving consoles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistercrow View Post
    Yeah thats just people talking. My local Gamestop cant keep either console in stock. Ancedotal I know. lol
    well i think it's fair to assume that overall the X1s are out there in better supply. there have been enough reports of that. though whether it's just sitting there and not sellling is another matter and it's fair to assume that this is not the case.

    reminds me of trey's video. that was an outlier event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    well i think it's fair to assume that overall the X1s are out there in better supply. there have been enough reports of that. though whether it's just sitting there and not sellling is another matter and it's fair to assume that this is not the case. reminds me of trey's video. that was an outlier event.
    Yep. MS definitely has the better supply chain for whatever the reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistercrow View Post
    Yep. MS definitely has the better supply chain for whatever the reason.
    see i haven't heard anything about that yet so i'm going to assume that they just had a better strategy than Sony with the way they presented their stock. because i think PS4 still outsold it WW and if that's the case, we can't say that MS had a better supply because they didn't. what they did have better, was that they had it in healthy supply in the places they did launch in (X1).
    at the same time, if Sony believed that spreading out the sales were a good idea to capture in territories X1 wasn't in, that's also good...just that it would make more sense if they had more supply. so maybe Sony thought they were going to have better supply but didn't. also it's more customery anyway to reach as many countries as possible. maybe that was their logic. don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistercrow View Post
    Yep. MS definitely has the better supply chain for whatever the reason.
    well they only released in 13 countries so they should have much better supply chain

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    Both have to be available for purchase before any of this is really accurate. So far only one has been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisw26308 View Post
    Both have to be available for purchase before any of this is really accurate. So far only one has been. Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk
    Yep, thats the situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungMullah88 View Post
    well they only released in 13 countries so they should have much better supply chain
    True.

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    4.2 million ps4's sold...

    WiiU sold 3.x consoles during the holidays too(in 2012) and you could find them on the shelves but when that next qt hit, their sales took a massive nose dive because they overshipped during the holidays. I'm looking forward to the next qt results(no way sony nor ms takes a wiiu ass whooping tho)
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    wasn't their march target 5m? alright, let's get that target up to 7m then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    wasn't their march target 5m? alright, let's get that target up to 7m then.
    Yeah, their target was 5million. I think they'll hit 7m too.

    Anyone remembers MS's target?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    Yeah, their target was 5million. I think they'll hit 7m too.

    Anyone remembers MS's target?
    i don't remember hearing about their target.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    4.2 million ps4's sold... WiiU sold 3.x consoles during the holidays too(in 2012) and you could find them on the shelves but when that next qt hit, their sales took a massive nose dive because they overshipped during the holidays. I'm looking forward to the next qt results(no way sony nor ms takes a wiiu ass whooping tho)
    Yeah I'm pleasantly surprised. So much for the supply theory. Never been more happier to be proven wrong. lol

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    told you crow. PS4 likely sold more but seems like it's more than a bit. it's still going so we'll see how close it is after a month or so. it's still very crazy right now and we have to remember that X1 came out a week later. that's a big deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    told you crow. PS4 likely sold more but seems like it's more than a bit. it's still going so we'll see how close it is after a month or so. it's still very crazy right now and we have to remember that X1 came out a week later. that's a big deal.
    I dont think a week is that big of deal. People really wanting an X1 would have no problem waiting one week. Remember its mostly hardcores buying at launch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    told you crow. PS4 likely sold more but seems like it's more than a bit. it's still going so we'll see how close it is after a month or so. it's still very crazy right now and we have to remember that X1 came out a week later. that's a big deal.
    For NA only so not so big deal , right? But overall these sale numbers definitely suprised both parties. They need to pump AAA exclusives now , much harder from previous gens. This will decide the long time winner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shingo View Post
    For NA only so not so big deal , right? But overall these sale numbers definitely suprised both parties. They need to pump AAA exclusives now , much harder from previous gens. This will decide the long time winner.
    And its in that dept. that I have more confidence in Sony. Their track record speaks for itself.

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