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    4k under $400


    Price: $399.99 & FREE Shipping.
    Seiki Digital SE39UY04 39-Inch 4K Ultra HD 120Hz LED TV

    I know its not a top of the line set but i'm doing my best to talk myself out of it at that price

    PC gaming 4k at 30fps though
    PS4 at 1080 upscaled to 4k though
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    I've watched some 4k content from within 3 feet, and it was awesome. I was watching on a 55" screen. Once I was just past six feet away, it was 1080p all over again.

    My living room will need a 90" 4k tv to benefit from it lol. This 39" would be ok just over 3 feet.




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    I sit at a desk really the pc at 30 is whats holding me back and the color accuracy BUT ONLY $400 how can i not overlook faults at that price


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    30fps makes it a gamebreaker. Literally.

    I bet this is amazing for digital art though.
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    Really though.. they are using the term 4k very loosely. The PS4 already does 2k!!!!




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    If it is only for your PC and PS4 I wouldnt bother bcuase max yu can get is 30FPS at 4k.
    Look for a monitor with displayport, this already has the bandwidth for 4k at 60Hz and more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maltrophstitan View Post
    I sit at a desk really the pc at 30 is whats holding me back and the color accuracy BUT ONLY $400 how can i not overlook faults at that price
    Quote Originally Posted by keefy View Post
    If it is only for your PC and PS4 I wouldnt bother bcuase max yu can get is 30FPS at 4k.
    Look for a monitor with displayport, this already has the bandwidth for 4k at 60Hz and more.

    The exact reason why I'm moving to 2560x1440 before 4K. I can't accept 30fps

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    I hate how 3840x2160 is 4k. For some reason marketing has decided to flip the numbers around so they can call it 4k.

    So technically 1080P is 2k and 720P is 1k? going by this marketing flip. I hate it personally but I guess it sounds a little better then 2160P XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBK.. View Post
    The exact reason why I'm moving to 2560x1440 before 4K. I can't accept 30fps
    HDMI is the problem
    HDMI cant even do 120Hz at 1080p. It is really quite $#@! for PC gaming Displayport on the other hand is designed for PC from the ground up.

    So far HDMI isnt keeping pace with the technology manufacturers are making.
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    That's true. I think my current monitor uses DVI-D for 120Hz. Think the ASUS one in getting only supports display port

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    Quote Originally Posted by faaeng View Post
    I hate how 3840x2160 is 4k. For some reason marketing has decided to flip the numbers around so they can call it 4k.

    So technically 1080P is 2k and 720P is 1k? going by this marketing flip. I hate it personally but I guess it sounds a little better then 2160P XD

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    FINALLY! Someone else gets what I've been saying for the past year. It shouldn't even be called 4K unless the vertical resolution is 4,000 pixels or greater.

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    They did it to purposely confuse people. I cant count how many people I know and who I've met that think these 4k HDTVs are an amazing 4x the resolution of 1080P comparing ones estimated 4000px horizontal res to the others 1080px vertical.. Yay marketing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maltrophstitan View Post

    Price: $399.99 & FREE Shipping.
    Seiki Digital SE39UY04 39-Inch 4K Ultra HD 120Hz LED TV

    I know its not a top of the line set but i'm doing my best to talk myself out of it at that price

    PC gaming 4k at 30fps though
    PS4 at 1080 upscaled to 4k though
    Meh, vizio will have a $999 50 inch 4k tv that can handle 60hz through hdmi later this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faaeng View Post
    They did it to purposely confuse people. I cant count how many people I know and who I've met that think these 4k HDTVs are an amazing 4x the resolution of 1080P comparing ones estimated 4000px horizontal res to the others 1080px vertical.. Yay marketing.

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    Well, itis actually 4x the resolution of 1080p. 2,073,600 vs 8,294,400 pixels.

    With the way pixel density is going for monitors and televisions, it's going to get harder for your average Joe to remember all these numbers. First there was SD then HD, and maybe they remember that 1080p is the "the best one." Now you have 4k, and maybe after that 10k (or whatever). It's a more convenient way to sell to consumers.

    I also read the name is part of the way the film industry labels resolutions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by faaeng View Post
    They did it to purposely confuse people. I cant count how many people I know and who I've met that think these 4k HDTVs are an amazing 4x the resolution of 1080P comparing ones estimated 4000px horizontal res to the others 1080px vertical.. Yay marketing.

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    1920x1080=2073600
    3840x2160=8294400

    8294400 / 4 = 2073600 ...


    Quote Originally Posted by Morganator View Post
    FINALLY! Someone else gets what I've been saying for the past year. It shouldn't even be called 4K unless the vertical resolution is 4,000 pixels or greater.
    I'm pretty sure 4k is based off cinema specs and 4k televisions have to crop to maintain aspect ratios but still have the same 2160 vertical resolution, same standards

    Quote Originally Posted by MATRIX 2 View Post
    Meh, vizio will have a $999 50 inch 4k tv that can handle 60hz through hdmi later this year.
    but $400 Dollars. 400. thats impulse buy black friday prices for 4K
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    Quote Originally Posted by maltrophstitan View Post
    1920x1080=2073600
    3840x2160=8294400

    8294400 / 4 = 2073600 ...




    I'm pretty sure 4k is based off cinema specs and 4k televisions have to crop to maintain aspect ratios but still have the same 2160 vertical resolution, same standards



    but $400 Dollars. 400. thats impulse buy black friday prices for 4K
    Would you rather have a $400 purchase that you despise/regret, or a $999 purchase that leaves you with a a smile on your face and that you look forward to using?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maltrophstitan View Post
    I'm pretty sure 4k is based off cinema specs and 4k televisions have to crop to maintain aspect ratios but still have the same 2160 vertical resolution, same standards
    Well, I always thought that using the "k", "K" moniker meant thousand. That's how it's done in the computer industry and that's how it's done with units of measurement. If they wanted to be accurate and not sell a pack of lies, they should use 2k, 2K or use 4x to denote multiplication. That's how it's done with everything else. False marketing is false marketing and this should be corrected.

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    1920x1080 (2x) = 3840x2160
    Its 2x the resolution, but you guys are partially correct. It is 4x the pixel count. There is a difference.

    Going by
    1280x720 = 720P
    1920x1080 = 1080P
    3840x2160 should be 2K not 4K

    To me, 4K should be more along the lines of say 7680x4320 which also happens to be 4x the resolution and 16x the pixel count of 1920x1080.
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    Quote Originally Posted by faaeng View Post
    1920x1080 (2x) = 3840x2160
    Its 2x the resolution, but you guys are partially correct. It is 4x the pixel count. There is a difference.

    Going by
    1280x720 = 720P
    1920x1080 = 1080P
    3840x2160 should be 2K not 4K

    To me, 4K should be more along the lines of say 7680x4320 which also happens to be 4x the resolution and 16x the pixel count of 1920x1080.
    It is 4 times the number of pixels which is the resolution, the 1920x1080 is the dimensions to give its shape.
    If it was floor space you would say it is 4 times the area.
    Basic math says doubling the dimensions of a square or rectangle quadruples the area.
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    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_resolution

    The term*resolution*is often used for a*pixel*count in digital imaging, even though American, Japanese, and international standards specify that it should not be so used, at least in the*digital camerafield.[1][2]
    Resolution, pixel count, aspect ratios, screen size, pixel density blah blah blah. They are all separate single aspects of the whole picture. Whatever. That's not my complaint.

    My complaint is what is currently known as 4K imho should not be labeled as 4K tho I know and understand why it is. I just feel that If they want to call these 4K they need to go back and market 1080P as 2K and 720P as 1K. Its all marketing. 4K sounds bigger and better then 2160P.
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    @OP. 4K is useless on a 39 inch. Unless you're sitting right next to it. should not be using TV to replace monitor either, text will seem bad.
    Quote Originally Posted by faaeng View Post
    1920x1080 (2x) = 3840x2160
    Its 2x the resolution, but you guys are partially correct. It is 4x the pixel count. There is a difference.

    Going by
    1280x720 = 720P
    1920x1080 = 1080P
    3840x2160 should be 2K not 4K

    To me, 4K should be more along the lines of say 7680x4320 which also happens to be 4x the resolution and 16x the pixel count of 1920x1080.
    1080p is 2K (a little smaller). 2160 is 4K, because i'm guessing it's 4 times 1080p. but yes, technically it should be called 8K because it's 4 times the resolution of 2K (roughly). Not less though as you're suggesting.

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    It doesn't make sense to go back and market 1080p as 2k because '1080p' is already established lingo for the average consumer. 4k is a convenience term, and is essentially future-proof with the rise of pixel count.

    It's potentially misleading, but everything is for someone who's not tech-savvy.
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    I know 1080P is 2K. I do get it. Its just not marketed that way so why now magically switch naming convention and market what wouldve been 2160P as 4K other then its a bigger number thus sounds better. Thats my whole point.

    Its labeled 4k because the horizontal pixel count of 3840 is around 4000. 1080P is 2K because the horizontal pixel count or 1920 is around 2000. Then wha? Now you lost me Sufi. Lol

    (Edit) yes. It is a bit misleading. Thats all im trying to get at. Thank you Rapture.


    As for 4K being useless on a screen that size? Meh. Depends on where your putting the Tv and where the user is viewing it from honestly. Would do nicey as a Kitchen TV at my house. Just need native 4K material to view on it thats all. Ill upgrade one day, but Im in no rush. Especially with virtually no 4K source material to view on it.
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    Its just easier. Otherwise its funky numbers 720 1080 1440 2160 and so on.
    I prefer it.

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    not to mention, we don't even have 4K stuff yet. would be pointless to get it. 4K is going to be for a while but i think 6K (if that's the next step) will likely be the last. we don't have screen sizes that are optimal for 6-8K yet.

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