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    Quote Originally Posted by Lethal View Post
    Whether another company would love to have these sales numbers is irrelevant. Please keep this discussion about Microsoft only.
    My point still stands "other" game console manufactures would find those numbers acceptable.

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    speaking of divisions that would rather be in the shoes of another right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakatomi Uk View Post
    They lost a lot on Windows income because Windows 8 hasn't taken to well with the consumer and most are still sticking to XP as long as they can with Vista being recently surpassed by Windows 7 a few weeks back, with Windows 9 coming end of year it could be a loss or a gain
    It's true that we are still sticking to XP. Mais they won't offer the patching technology soon
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrUe GaMeR View Post
    No, that's what you call talking outta ya ass.



    How are they stifling innovation? Better yet name me some things you see as innovative in the tech field.

    Risk taking?
    Windows 8 is not a risk?
    Xbox One is not a risk?




    Yes the billions it makes pales in comparison to the billions other divisions makes.
    Oh noes, what a failure they have on their hands.

    lolz



    Forget Sony.

    You can't name me one company that wouldn't want to own the pathetic billion dollar xbox division.

    What a problem to have...



    How is giving you a fact spinning?

    That chart goes by the billions.

    Someone pointed that out.

    Other than coming from you, where is the spin?
    Windows 8 is nothing more then a rip off if the android. So no it isn't innovative nor was it a risk. It was however a miscalculation in the consumer wanting the garbage.

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    Despite the Surface making $893 million last quarter, it cost them $932 million, which means that the Surface still has yet to make profit even with more sales numbers. And Bing just flat out isn't working. I agree that it would be stupid of them to get rid of the Xbox at this point, but I understand the concern. Over the course of '03-'12, it actually lost them $3 billion. Which means it's pretty safe to say that the Xbox division over its entire history has lost money.

    With that in mind it's not hard to understand why investors are calling for them to axe these divisions and products. Popularity and units sold doesn't mean much if you aren't actually making money from them.

    Again, I'm not arguing for them to do that, but it's really not as far fetched of an idea as it might seem, especially if the X1 doesn't take off (I think it will be fine though).
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrUe GaMeR View Post
    No, that's what you call talking outta ya ass. How are they stifling innovation? Better yet name me some things you see as innovative in the tech field. Risk taking? Windows 8 is not a risk? Xbox One is not a risk? Yes the billions it makes pales in comparison to the billions other divisions makes. Oh noes, what a failure they have on their hands. lolz Forget Sony. You can't name me one company that wouldn't want to own the pathetic billion dollar xbox division. What a problem to have... How is giving you a fact spinning? That chart goes by the billions. Someone pointed that out. Other than coming from you, where is the spin?
    Lmao. Youre gonna pop a blood vessel bro.

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    My game machine is Windows7 and my newer laptop is Windows8.1. Where to start with why nobody wants to deal with Windows8. Once I found out there is basically nothing new from Windows 7, that Windows 8 is like this crazy confuzed wrapper for Windows7, I can work with it. All MS did was move everything all around again. The big difference is they are trying to do some better underlying security scheme and it takes forever for the thing to boot up. The other thing Windows8 did was screw up the USB. You have to get an unsigned driver to get it to work. It isn't that it is totally unusable, just that it is now such a PITA that it would be worth looking for alternatives.

    Speaking of Windows8, have you seen the new NBC news site? Metro megaganza!

    http://www.nbcnews.com
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    WTF have they done to that website? It's lost all manner of navigation completely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thanatos144 View Post
    Windows 8 is nothing more then a rip off if the android. So no it isn't innovative nor was it a risk. It was however a miscalculation in the consumer wanting the garbage.

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    You don't know what risk or innovative means but use them with such confidence...

    well that's pathetic.

    I miscalculated in expecting a coherent response.

    $#@!, oh well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Felix336 View Post
    Despite the Surface making $893 million last quarter, it cost them $932 million, which means that the Surface still has yet to make profit even with more sales numbers. And Bing just flat out isn't working. I agree that it would be stupid of them to get rid of the Xbox at this point, but I understand the concern. Over the course of '03-'12, it actually lost them $3 billion. Which means it's pretty safe to say that the Xbox division over its entire history has lost money.

    With that in mind it's not hard to understand why investors are calling for them to axe these divisions and products. Popularity and units sold doesn't mean much if you aren't actually making money from them.

    Again, I'm not arguing for them to do that, but it's really not as far fetched of an idea as it might seem, especially if the X1 doesn't take off (I think it will be fine though).
    True $#@!. In the end they lost 32 mil. on it. But their surface revenue from Oct 2012 to June 2013 was $853 million. So this one quarter of revenue of $893 million was higher than the revenue in all of 2013. That's a good sign.

    Quote Originally Posted by mistercrow View Post
    Lmao. Youre gonna pop a blood vessel bro.
    My style hasn't changed since 06 so I'll risk it.

    Did you stall and do enough spinning to find out what a fact is?

    lolz

    Hint: You can look it up in a search engine. You may even get a thumbs up for effort.

    No vessels popped. $#@! yeah.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bligmerk View Post
    My game machine is Windows7 and my newer laptop is Windows8.1. Where to start with why nobody wants to deal with Windows8. Once I found out there is basically nothing new from Windows 7, that Windows 8 is like this crazy confuzed wrapper for Windows7, I can work with it. All MS did was move everything all around again. The big difference is they are trying to do some better underlying security scheme and it takes forever for the thing to boot up. The other thing Windows8 did was screw up the USB. You have to get an unsigned driver to get it to work. It isn't that it is totally unusable, just that it is now such a PITA that it would be worth looking for alternatives.
    Personal problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrUe GaMeR View Post
    You don't know what risk or innovative means but use them with such confidence...

    well that's pathetic.

    I miscalculated in expecting a coherent response.

    $#@!, oh well.
    Tone this down please - unwarranted.


    True $#@!. In the end they lost 32 mil. on it. But their surface revenue from Oct 2012 to June 2013 was $853 million. So this one quarter of revenue of $893 million was higher than the revenue in all of 2013. That's a good sign.
    If that
    s true, that is indeed a good improvement from their utter failure their first time around re: Surface.

    I can see it based on ads, so good on them.

    Personal problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrUe GaMeR View Post
    You don't know what risk or innovative means but use them with such confidence...

    well that's pathetic.

    I miscalculated in expecting a coherent response.

    $#@!, oh well.



    True $#@!. In the end they lost 32 mil. on it. But their surface revenue from Oct 2012 to June 2013 was $853 million. So this one quarter of revenue of $893 million was higher than the revenue in all of 2013. That's a good sign.



    My style hasn't changed since 06 so I'll risk it.

    Did you stall and do enough spinning to find out what a fact is?

    lolz

    Hint: You can look it up in a search engine. You may even get a thumbs up for effort.

    No vessels popped. $#@! yeah.



    Personal problems.
    Hate to tell you this but 8 is a rip off

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    Quote Originally Posted by thanatos144 View Post
    Hate to tell you this but 8 is a rip off

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkNemesis View Post
    The Xbox brand has never been profitable for the long run. If they were depending solely on the gaming industry they would have went out of business years ago. The fact is that despite the success of the 360, MS bled the profits dry as the years went by. Globally the Xbox brand has never been very popular so revenue is lost over sees. MS just tried to use their name to succeed with the Xbox which has failed to firmly establish itself. This generation will make it even worse.
    Quite true. Nobody in Asia really talks about the Xbox as a whole. In the Philippines, many Gamers here are talking about the PS4 instead of the Xbox One. Playstation is pretty much a known Brand in Philippines, which is why Gamers continue to buy Playstation Products here. Hell, why do you think the Xbox failed twice in Japan? Yup. There's your answer.

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    It's not unusual for giant parent corporations to spin off divisions. The reason is those divisions are able to support themselves and actually show an indication of growth.

    MS is supposedly working on a total overhaul of the WindowsOS. Not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing, depending on how much breaks.

    There has been a leak of the XBox division game plan board. Sounds legit, seems to be working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    be quiet, for your own safety, don't say that.
    For my own safety? Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by thanatos144 View Post
    For my own safety? Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bligmerk View Post
    It's not unusual for giant parent corporations to spin off divisions. The reason is those divisions are able to support themselves and actually show an indication of growth.

    MS is supposedly working on a total overhaul of the WindowsOS. Not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing, depending on how much breaks.

    There has been a leak of the XBox division game plan board. Sounds legit, seems to be working.

    No dGpu? Or cloud?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungMullah88 View Post
    No dGpu? Or cloud?

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    The all powerful cloud should not be mocked! Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by thanatos144 View Post
    The all powerful cloud should not be mocked! Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungMullah88 View Post
    Titanfalls AI controlled bots are looking mighty impressive, can't wait to try it myself.
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    the final game has to have better AI

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    Quote Originally Posted by x_terna View Post
    the final game has to have better AI
    one can only hope

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    quite of agreement,i Want to replace a new system objets publicitaires Produits promotionnels
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    My point still stands "other" game console manufactures would find those numbers acceptable.
    No it doesnt... Return on Xbox is horrible. Only saving grace is the loyalty from android that makes department look profitable. When in fact, Xbox itself is doing very poorly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AttackTitan View Post
    No it doesnt... Return on Xbox is horrible. Only saving grace is the loyalty from android that makes department look profitable. When in fact, Xbox itself is doing very poorly.

    Not according to their last reports. Of course they could be doing better but they have much more cushion than others.They aren't posting losses which is always a plus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    Not according to their last reports. Of course they could be doing better but they have much more cushion than others.They aren't posting losses which is always a plus.
    Last report of what? I just told you their entire department number is including the massive amount they get from IP LOYALTY to cover xbox's performance.

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