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    Does the U.S. need more gun laws or tighter security?

    So the last shooting I know of took place at Purdue University:
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...oting/4719831/

    The U.S. keeps having incidents like this happen.

    So my question is, does the U.S. need more gun laws or do we need tighter security?

    For example, with the more gun laws option, a mentally ill guy or certain character would not be able to purchase a gun, weapons, and ammo to go and shoot up a university or high school.

    With the tighter security choice, the guy would buy the guns and ammo but the police or security would meet him at the front gate and possibly stop him.

    What do you guys think?

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    We need neither.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgotha View Post
    We need neither.
    So how should the U.S. resolve the issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Wolf View Post
    So how should the U.S. resolve the issue?
    What issue? Crime and bad people doing bad things? Good luck with that.

    Neither need to be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Wolf View Post
    So how should the U.S. resolve the issue?
    Actually read up on this stuff before going out and 'taking action', please.

    This is a good read and it analyzes both sides fairly (hint: anti-gun rhetoric doesn't come out ahead in this objective comparison)

    http://www.factcheck.org/2012/12/gun...-vs-gun-facts/


    "Guns" are not really the issue. There are other factors at play here as to why our society is the way it is.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgotha View Post
    Actually read up on this stuff before going out and 'taking action', please.

    This is a good read and it analyzes both sides fairly (hint: anti-gun rhetoric doesn't come out ahead in this objective comparison)

    http://www.factcheck.org/2012/12/gun...-vs-gun-facts/


    "Guns" are not really the issue. There are other factors at play here as to why our society is the way it is.
    Your in denial because your country loves guns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacP View Post
    Your in denial because your country loves guns.
    if that were true, i honestly don't see a problem with it. there are definitely issues with certain people owning these guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgotha View Post

    "Guns" are not really the issue. There are other factors at play here as to why our society is the way it is.
    Let me ask you this:

    Why is it the safer countries in the world have strict gun laws?

    http://www.statisticbrain.com/safest...-in-the-world/

    Japan is number 1 and they have strict gun laws:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/canad...control-2013-1

    I know the 2nd amendment states we have the right to bear arms, but here's a good question that I have not seen asked on PSU yet:

    What happens when your rights put other people in danger or cause danger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Wolf View Post
    Let me ask you this:

    Why is it the safer countries in the world have strict gun laws?

    http://www.statisticbrain.com/safest...-in-the-world/

    Japan is number 1 and they have strict gun laws:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/canad...control-2013-1

    I know the 2nd amendment states we have the right to bear arms, but here's a good question that I have not seen asked on PSU yet:

    What happens when your rights put other people in danger or cause danger?
    You cannot compare countries like that. There are too many variables to account for. Also Japan is rather unique among the countries of the world.

    Secondly, Switzerland (along with several other european countries) contradicts the point you were trying to make.

    Thirdly, that is not the case. Law abiding citizens exercising their rights are not the problem. Also, why don't you ask that question about the 1st amendment. (regarding freedom of speech) Not to mention this quote, "They who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

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    I know you only mentioned a single victim shooting, but:
    http://washingtonexaminer.com/crime-...rticle/2542118

    according to James Alan Fox, author and criminology professor at Northeastern University, mass shootings have remained stagnant over 34 years, averaging 20 a year, and few were committed by the type of berserk psychos portrayed by the media.
    “Public discourse is grounded in myth and misunderstanding about the nature of the offense and those who perpetrate it,” he writes in the journal “Homicide Studies.” He added: “Without minimizing the pain and suffering of the hundreds of those who have been victimized in recent attacks, the facts clearly say that there has been no increase in mass shootings and certainly no epidemic.”
    They reviewed years of mass shootings and found that most shooters are not the crazed killers pictured on TV: Most are seeking revenge and practice their crime, like the two Columbine, Colo., killers.
    I think the only thing we need to do is stop acting like this is something new. The biggest growth relating to shootings is how much more the media covers them, especially with the internet. When these shootings happened before it wasn't talked about outside of the state. Now, someone gets shot in a Dunkin Donuts in Washington and you hear about it in minutes whether you live in Washington, Florida, Oklahoma, Oregon, or even London.

    Also, it wouldn't hurt if we legalized marijuana so we could free up a lot of prison room for those who are actually a danger to society (and I say this as someone with zero interest in marijuana).
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    i feel safer knowing people around me don't have guns



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    Quote Originally Posted by -Dj- View Post
    i feel safer knowing people around me don't have guns
    no one's walking around with guns in their holsters. but trust me, if it ever came down to any incident where you feel threatened for your life, you will be praising someone around you has one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Wolf View Post
    So how should the U.S. resolve the issue?
    not to be a smart $#@! here, but get rid of all the dumbasses that own guns.....

    and i emphasize, dumbasses



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    Quote Originally Posted by JDizzleNO1 View Post
    not to be a smart $#@! here, but get rid of all the dumbasses that own guns.....

    and i emphasize, dumbasses
    lol so what exactly must someone do to qualify as a dumbass then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by One-Shot View Post
    lol so what exactly must someone do to qualify as a dumbass then?
    everyone that owns a gun is a dumbass



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    All I know is, the US tops ww. homicide statistics, and someone in your country is making a lot of profit out of it.

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    shootings can be helpful in gaining support for gun laws, funding for security and more freedoms being stepped on in order to control the sheeples.

    for this reason, i'm doubtful how real these events are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    for this reason, i'm doubtful how real these events are.
    Maybe you can ask those who lost people. Might as well spit in their face while you're at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by One-Shot View Post
    Maybe you can ask those who lost people. Might as well spit in their face while you're at it.
    http://nodisinfo.com/purdue-hoax-videos-pictures/
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    there are some mysteries behind these events is all i'm saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    shootings can be helpful in gaining support for gun laws, funding for security and more freedoms being stepped on in order to control the sheeples.

    for this reason, i'm doubtful how real these events are.
    This. Shootings, mass or small cases have been going on for years. Most are with illegal guns i.e. Scratched off serial numbers, black market etc from gang violence or in urban areas. Those incidents don't get highlighted and talked about endlessly like these "mass shootings" in the suburbs. None of it should cause us to lose our constitutional rights as law abiding citizens.

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    lol i don't even keep my doors lock because i know no-one will break into my home



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    Quote Originally Posted by -Dj- View Post
    lol i don't even keep my doors lock because i know no-one will break into my home
    They don't need to break and enter because your doors are unlocked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keefy View Post
    They don't need to break and enter because your doors are unlocked.
    noone has guns here so noboby going enter my house and killl me



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    Quote Originally Posted by -Dj- View Post
    lol i don't even keep my doors lock because i know no-one will break into my home
    Yea, I hear that is quite common in Canada.
    Australia we lock our doors cause that's what people do here.
    I sometimes forget but whatever i'm happy to deal with any intruders.

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