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    Microsoft reaching out to former Sony Santa Monica studio employees

    nice of them to do this.


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    I am sure a lot of studios are reaching out to those former employees.

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    Company lays off employees and another company hires them. Happens every day. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistercrow View Post
    Company lays off employees and another company hires them. Happens every day. lol
    its still nice of them to look into hiring some of those people though. I hope they all get hired somewhere if not with MS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    its still nice of them to look into hiring some of those people though. I hope they all get hired somewhere if not with MS.
    Nice of them? lol they would be lucky to land these employees. Any studio will be thankful if these guys choose them. Not the other way around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lethal View Post
    Nice of them? lol they would be lucky to land these employees. Any studio will be thankful if these guys choose them. Not the other way around.
    i think it goes both ways. Studios need talent and devs/employees need financial backing. I'm sure they will get hired but supporting a family comes before everything else.

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    Go to Ms and then relegated to making kinect shovelware? We'll see

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    Goodthat the ones laid off have an opportunity.

    BUt as Lethal said, the ball is usually on their court for these thigns (much like free agent athletes). Yes it's a 2 way situation, but the vast majority of leverage or choice is ultimately up to the developer/talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    i think it goes both ways. Studios need talent and devs/employees need financial backing. I'm sure they will get hired but supporting a family comes before everything else.
    It's a bit of both. It's good that MS is trying to give these guys a job. They do have families to feed. But this isn't a charity either; MS wants them because they want their talent and skills available for use. They're not there to pick them up off their asses.
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    I hope the ones laid of stick together and help each other out. Not everyone's gonna get hired and as far as I know, there isn't any kind of union in the gaming industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapture View Post
    It's a bit of both. It's good that MS is trying to give these guys a job. They do have families to feed. But this isn't a charity either; MS wants them because they want their talent and skills available for use. They're not there to pick them up off their asses.
    Yep. And let's not pretend that MS is coming to the rescue of every person that was laid off. MS is going to do what any company will do.....recruit and hire people that will be of benefit to MS. And when/if MS decides to go in another direction, the will lay off people just like they have before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapture View Post
    It's a bit of both. It's good that MS is trying to give these guys a job. They do have families to feed. But this isn't a charity either; MS wants them because they want their talent and skills available for use. They're not there to pick them up off their asses.
    exactly, and they need a job and want to get paid. Money is money and having security may take priority for most people. They still are doing what they love to do which is making games.

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    They are being head hunted. ITs what happens when you are good at your job.

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    Sony fired them so they go work elsewhere. That how it usually goes. Whatever pays the bills and feeds their families. I wish them all the best.

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    This kind of stuff happens in the development community all the time, I'm not sure why either side of this story is really news. Dev teams grow during the product cycle, then typically get trimmed back heavily as a new project starts development. Dev's can't afford to keep those huge teams around when they aren't doing anything. Microsoft is probably one of dozens if not hundreds of devs at different stages of development who could use some of these people, they certainly aren't rescuing anyone, they certainly aren't alone, and this likely isn't the first time.

    The only real news here is that Sony cancelled a long in development game, likely for very cynical business reasons, and a dev team that is generally considered one of the best is still reeling from release a poor game. Honestly, Ascension was very disappointing, it should never have been made, and maybe instead they wouldn't be canning a different game.

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    happens all the time, big deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faaeng View Post
    Sony fired them so they go work elsewhere. That how it usually goes. Whatever pays the bills and feeds their families. I wish them all the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lethal View Post
    Being fired is not the same thing as being laid off.
    To me it is the same thing.
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    You get laid off? You lose your job and need to find a new one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    its still nice of them to look into hiring some of those people though. I hope they all get hired somewhere if not with MS.
    Seriously. Nice of them? No more like smart. You try to hire employees of your biggest competitors studio that is known for making high quality titles. It's a business move not a charitable contribution. It sucks that they lost their jobs but it's not like MS is riding in on a white horse saying I'll save you! More like hey want a job. We could use your talents and knowledge. You know every day hiring decision. Just like a sports team picking up a player that a division rival couldn't afford to keep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    its still nice of them to look into hiring some of those people though. I hope they all get hired somewhere if not with MS.
    Nice of them? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by PS4freak View Post
    Seriously. Nice of them? No more like smart. You try to hire employees of your biggest competitors studio that is known for making high quality titles. It's a business move not a charitable contribution. It sucks that they lost their jobs but it's not like MS is riding in on a white horse saying I'll save you! More like hey want a job. We could use your talents and knowledge. You know every day hiring decision. Just like a sports team picking up a player that a division rival couldn't afford to keep.

    it is a business move just like it was to lay them them off. I think it's a decent thing to do regardless of what game they made prior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    it is a business move just like it was to lay them them off. I think it's a decent thing to do regardless of what game they made prior.
    Apparently, MS thought it would be good PR as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
    Apparently, MS thought it would be good PR as well.
    i think he just replied to a tweet about it.

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