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    NSA Spying On Yahoo Users And Xbox Owners, Leaked Documents Claim

    Time to throw out those Kinects.

    The government is spying on Yahoo users via their webcams and X-box, according to a report based on leaked documents. Both the American and British governments are now accused of spying on citizens in their own home, sans either a warrant or just cause.

    The document goes on to state that a multitude of the data collected contained sexually explicit imagery and nudity. Yahoo has condemned the online spying as a “whole new level of violation of our users’ privacy” and claims they knew nothing of the surveillance program.

    The GCHQ spying program also reportedly included Xbox 360′s Kinect camera. The report stated that the Kinect camera generates “fairly normal webcam traffic” and is being evaluated as a useful surveillance tool. The “always on” camera featured on the Xbox One is allegedly very open to abuse by both governmental agencies and cyber hackers.
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    Surprise!

    And people, in particular our buddies from across the pond, wonder why I'm a pissed off Libertarian. As if I didn't need yet another reason to be educated and armed.

    People who trust government are fools.

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    I'll tell you why they are spying on us. Because it's fun, that's why.

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    PR $#@!storm heading MS's way in 3...2...1

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    Not surprising at all actually but very newsworthy to hear it being publicly confirmed.

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    lol..at the "optic nerve document". Dont let paranoia get the best of you people. Everytime you go on the internet you are being spied on. That means you too PSU....lol

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    Unless I missed something:

    Optic Nerve was just one of a series of GCHQ efforts at biometric detection, whether for target recognition or general security.While the documents do not detail efforts as widescale as those against Yahoo users, one presentation discusses with interest the potential and capabilities of the Xbox 360's Kinect camera, saying it generated "fairly normal webcam traffic" and was being evaluated as part of a wider program.
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    The GCHQ program was seemingly not limited to Yahoo user web cams either. Another presentation within the leaked internal papers discusses the capabilities of the Xbox 360′s Kinect camera, saying it generated “fairly normal webcam traffic” and that it was being evaluated as a potential surveillance tool.


    We have also documented the potential use of Xbox for surveillance purposes, noting that Skype calls made on the devices can be intercepted. We have also warned that the ‘always on’ camera of the new Xbox One, which is so powerful it can see through clothing, is wide open to abuse by hackers and government agencies.
    It's a lot of 'maybe's and 'potential possibilities'. Nothing actually confirming that either the 360's or XB1's Kinect models have been used for direct spying. In fact the specific language used indicates that it hasn't yet. Not that it really matters -- if it's not been used yet it's only a matter of time.

    You can't trust your Government. They will $#@! you over however they can.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    lol..at the "optic nerve document". Dont let paranoia get the best of you people. Everytime you go on the internet you are being spied on. That means you too PSU....lol
    Paranoia has absolutely nothing to do with it, especially with all the released information over the past couple of years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    lol..at the "optic nerve document". Dont let paranoia get the best of you people. Everytime you go on the internet you are being spied on. That means you too PSU....lol
    I must have missed the PSU camera plugin. Sorry folks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
    I must have missed the PSU camera plugin. Sorry folks
    *shakes fist*

    Now we know who's been breaking the internets. WHY HASN'T THE NSA CAUGHT CHRIS YET!?!?!

    Forget Snowden, get Chris!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
    I must have missed the PSU camera plugin. Sorry folks
    Don't feel bad, I made sure it was extremely covert. Gotta thank you guys, many a sock was soiled as I watched you all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
    I must have missed the PSU camera plugin. Sorry folks
    you don't need a camera to spy. Its just another way of doing it. Governments can get anything they need on you. If you have a SSN they probably already do....lol When PSU is on the fritz, its probably the government.

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    Thank GOD I don't use Kinect, nor do I use yahoo with the webcam.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapture View Post
    Unless I missed something:



    And,



    It's a lot of 'maybe's and 'potential possibilities'. Nothing actually confirming that either the 360's or XB1's Kinect models have been used for direct spying. In fact the specific language used indicates that it hasn't yet. Not that it really matters -- if it's not been used yet it's only a matter of time.

    You can't trust your Government. They will $#@! you over however they can.



    Paranoia has absolutely nothing to do with it, especially with all the released information over the past couple of years.
    That anyone would even use the word 'paranoia' to describe those with an avid distrust for government these days is just.. I don't even have the words for it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgotha View Post
    That anyone would even use the word 'paranoia' to describe those with an avid distrust for government these days is just.. I don't even have the words for it.
    all governments spy. Are people that shocked that a spy agency is spying....lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    all governments spy. Are people that shocked that a spy agency is spying....lol
    NO one is shocked they spy. Maybe disgusted, distrust, etc. But not 'shocked'.

    I don't want to see the "defence" for spying to be "people shouldn't be shocked". Being 'shocked' isn't what they're feeling... Unless you only found out about technology like 10 mins ago, then no, that isn't a valid retort...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    all governments spy. Are people that shocked that a spy agency is spying....lol
    Truly the walking embodiment of what is wrong with citizens of my once great nation.

    Tell me, "ranger", is there even a theoretical line for you that our government would have to cross before you were shaken from your complacency?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    you don't need a camera to spy. Its just another way of doing it. Governments can get anything they need on you. If you have a SSN they probably already do....lol When PSU is on the fritz, its probably the government.
    digital traffic isn't a window into your home. just stop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Admartian View Post
    NO one is shocked they spy. Maybe disgusted, distrust, etc. But not 'shocked'.

    I don't want to see the "defence" for spying to be "people shouldn't be shocked". Being 'shocked' isn't what they're feeling... Unless you only found out about technology like 10 mins ago, then no, that isn't a valid retort...
    Then be disgusted that they spy. Not just when its brought up in a game forum. We were being spied on long before social media came about. If you're paranoid about it then don't use social media and stay away from technology. It won't change the outcome. Any info they want they can get with or without our permission. It sucks, but it's the reality of the society that we live in.

    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
    digital traffic isn't a window into your home. just stop.
    oh, you couldn't be more wrong. You may not like it but in some cases it is. I know people who found out the hard way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    Then be disgusted that they spy. Not just when its brought up in a game forum. We were being spied on long before social media came about. If you're paranoid about it then don't use social media and stay away from technology. It won't change the outcome. Any info they want they can get with or without our permission. It sucks, but it's the reality of the society that we live in.


    Now you're dictating when and where people should feel about this issue? People aren't only reminded of it when these things come up - I'm sure it's an opinion or feeling that exists before and after it is posted anywhere.

    You are right - it is a reality - but at the same time, people can be against it as well. It's not mutually exclusive.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    oh, you couldn't be more wrong. You may not like it but in some cases it is. I know people who found out the hard way.
    Again, Chris/others aren't saying that this isn't a fact. That rather, it shouldn't be.

    Can you tell the difference? Or are you ignoring it on purpose?
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    Neither Yahoo nor MS are colluding with this intrusion and I think that makes it even worse that they can do all this even without the knowledge or permission of the manufacturers. I don't even trust my ps4 cam since I learned you can't turn off the mic on it. It's been unplugged since the first week.

    Seriously though GCHQ and the NSA need to wind their necks in. $#@!s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgotha View Post
    That anyone would even use the word 'paranoia' to describe those with an avid distrust for government these days is just.. I don't even have the words for it.
    Naive? Thats what I would call somebody who blindly trusts the government while calling those who have the presence of mind to question it "paranoid."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    oh, you couldn't be more wrong. You may not like it but in some cases it is. I know people who found out the hard way.
    sigh....obviously I meant you can't SEE me through my internet traffic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Admartian View Post
    Now you're dictating when and where people should feel about this issue? People aren't only reminded of it when these things come up - I'm sure it's an opinion or feeling that exists before and after it is posted anywhere.

    You are right - it is a reality - but at the same time, people can be against it as well. It's not mutually exclusive.
    I'm not dictating anything. i'm just saying governments spy. Not just on yahoo users or xb1 owners. So if you are gonna be paranoid, be that way for almost any type of technology. Just because you feel a certain way doesn't mean it should interfere with our daily lives. Big companies like MS and sony know these things happen. There isn't much they can do about it. Some people even agree to it without ever knowing it because they choose not to read.



    Again, Chris/others aren't saying that this isn't a fact. That rather, it shouldn't be.

    Can you tell the difference? Or are you ignoring it on purpose?
    yea, like a million other things. They shouldn't use banks and "credit checks" to spy on us either but they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistercrow View Post
    Naive? Thats what I would call somebody who blindly trusts the government while calling those who have the presence of mind to question it "paranoid."
    Too gentle of a word for it.


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