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    Lol @ everyone goin crazy in the comments, bad move Ubi

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistercrow View Post
    Still looks like a last gen game. Not good.
    Even before the delay there were bits of last gen. In the PS4 gameplay video there were numerous obvious pop-ins, both from textures and actual models. Another annoying bit I saw was the scripted chase scene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bitbydeath View Post
    Lol @ everyone goin crazy in the comments, bad move Ubi
    The amount of hate in the stream chat was unreal. How did they ever manage to find those 'questions' from us in between all the hate and rage lol
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    I'm glad Ubisoft is getting backlash for this, we were promised to get a game on next gen that looked amazing.

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    definitely not a day one purchase, gotta play it safe to not waste money scaled down version of a supposedly next gen game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkarEffect View Post
    I'm glad Ubisoft is getting backlash for this, we were promised to get a game on next gen that looked amazing.
    Me too. Ubisoft deserves the backlash. A delay should be to add polish not take it away.

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    So what essentially was said?




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    There's a great gif a GAF member made where he froze frame the 2013 demo to make the car look just as bad vs good angles and lighting

    Here is a gif (with accelerated time) of the entire sequence, freezing at a few key points. The car looks "good" or "bad" depending on the lighting. I'd take from that the the infamous gif in the OP shows the worst possible comparison and that the game is indeed running better than at E3 2013. Nevertheless, it's in my opinion not as good looking as the E3 2012 trailer.

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    Many developers show amazing target renders during the reveal which they then fail to achieve as the development process goes on. It should be the other way round if you want to gradually build up hype as the launch nears. There is definitely a downgrade on watch dogs. The part where's he's driving the car made it hard to believe that this was the ps4/xbone version.

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    ^Please read Itachi's post above.

    And as we've discussed before in these forums, this isn't a 'new' thing in games. And the downgrade is that it may not look like the E3 2012, but it's definitely not gonna look 'last gen'.

    I swear it seems like people are just covering their ears screaming "na na na na nah" at all the reasoning that says it won't look that bad....

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    i'm failing to see the terrible-ness of watch dogs. i'm still as hyped as before... game concept is still amazing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Admartian View Post
    ^Please read Itachi's post above.

    And as we've discussed before in these forums, this isn't a 'new' thing in games. And the downgrade is that it may not look like the E3 2012, but it's definitely not gonna look 'last gen'.

    I swear it seems like people are just covering their ears screaming "na na na na nah" at all the reasoning that says it won't look that bad....
    It still looks better than a ps3 game, but any downgrade serves as negative advertising, especially when the game is nearing launch. Developers using this target render stuff to reveal their game and later downgrading the game is a crappy practice. Just because it is common in the industry doesn't make it right.

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    I have never been impressed with this game personally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rene2kx View Post
    It still looks better than a ps3 game, but any downgrade serves as negative advertising, especially when the game is nearing launch. Developers using this target render stuff to reveal their game and later downgrading the game is a crappy practice. Just because it is common in the industry doesn't make it right.
    They're called 'Target renders' for a reason. Meaning, that's what they aim (their target) to have in the final product. Taken that they (devs) show these at an early/unfinished stage of the game development process, it's only logical to think that there are certain thins that can necessitate a compromise to deliver.

    When has anyone ever worked on a project with a road-map, and hasn't had to adjust (thus outcome - in this case, a game) due to whatever factors?

    It's called concessions - let that be a lesson in life.

    @the trailer above, no one's read the explanation regarding sped up scenes making THE SAME footage look better/worse? Also, one footage had a different time of day (dusk vs noon) vs dry vs wet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Admartian View Post
    ^Please read Itachi's post above.

    And as we've discussed before in these forums, this isn't a 'new' thing in games. And the downgrade is that it may not look like the E3 2012, but it's definitely not gonna look 'last gen'.

    I swear it seems like people are just covering their ears screaming "na na na na nah" at all the reasoning that says it won't look that bad....
    Hell there were people mentioning at e3 2013 that it didn't look as good as the previous year. I agree with that but I don't think it's going to look terrible like implied.




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    Quote Originally Posted by PS4freak View Post
    Hell there were people mentioning at e3 2013 that it didn't look as good as the previous year. I agree with that but I don't think it's going to look terrible like implied.
    Agreed.

    Also, this is a cross-gen game. So it'll look good, but maybe not what it could've been. And at all people (nopt necessarily in this thread) saying it's worse than GTA5 - I reckon it'll look better than that.

    The worse PS4/XB1 game, graphically, is better or as good as the best of last gen (TLOU, GTA5 etc).

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    This is the rest of the footage from the gif in the OP



    So I guess it was just the angle at which the first gif was made.

    As a comparison this is sleeping dogs


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    Ubisoft’s Tessa Vilyn took to Twitter to clear up any misconceptions about Watch Dogs’ graphics:
    "It is impossible. Of course it is not downgraded at all. It's a true next-gen game for sure...for sure.."

    She added: "Believe me the game is not downgraded. That would just be a bit ridiculous. I saw the game it looks incredible. It looks what a next gen should look like."
    http://www.gamespot.com/articles/wat.../1100-6418171/

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    To be fair she is a Ubisoft PR person though and they aren't usually that technically informed

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    That response is about as expected.

    Hopefully the rest of my preorders don't have downgrade issues (Dark Souls II and this, thus far)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenix View Post
    That response is about as expected.

    Hopefully the rest of my preorders don't have downgrade issues (Dark Souls II and this, thus far)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi View Post
    To be fair she is a Ubisoft PR person though and they aren't usually that technically informed
    Beats trusting a bunch of unconfirmed footage flying all over the internet.

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