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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapture View Post

    Then I agree that this certainly sound better than our healthcare system as it currently is. I think almost anything would be better than what we have.

    However, I'm not seeing how this is superior to universal healthcare. Even if prices are lower, you'll still have many situations where a person cannot afford doctor visits, medication, or prevent being financially crippled for years due to an expensive surgery. It's a very real problem right now, and in your proposed solution it would still be one (albeit to a lesser degree). What about those suffering and in most need of help?
    corruption is why our costs are high and nothing is done about it.

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    Okay, I can understand where you guys are coming from. I follow a man named Dave Ramsey's advice on finances and he has similar beliefs. I agree with Dave and there are some anti democrat liberal ideas I actually agree with, just that health care is not one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morganator View Post
    MILITARY spending is not constitutional spending. DEFENSE spending is and even then, it did not allow for standing armies in times of peace. Military spending allows for foreign entanglements and mis-adventurism while defense spending allows for what is needed when we're under attack.
    I am sorry the military isn't part of defense? Foreign entanglements huh... Tell me do you think trade happens with out these entanglements? Do you think if we ignore things they will just ignore us? It is a far more complicated thing then you will ever understand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    oh right, if we cut the military spending then how will we keep the war economy going?
    Got that from a college professor huh? The USA has done more good in the world then ANY OTHER country and most of that was done by the US Military...Or do you think trade lanes dont need to be protected?

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    Okay I am done commenting in this thread....I go to political forum to debate these things I come here to talk about games... Enjoy you all

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    I wish you actually did debate, not just make statements.

    Considering the short history of the United States, having done the most good is a pretty bold statement. I haven't been counting, maybe it's true.

    I did laugh out loud when you said fascism is socialism though.

    E: Sorry, off-topic. I keep out of these threads for various reasons, but I do enjoy reading them.
    Last edited by Naxi; 04-02-2014 at 12:10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thanatos144 View Post
    I am sorry the military isn't part of defense? Foreign entanglements huh... Tell me do you think trade happens with out these entanglements? Do you think if we ignore things they will just ignore us? It is a far more complicated thing then you will ever understand
    I think you know exactly what I'm talking about. Notice, I said standing ARMIES. The constitution doesn't allow for STANDING ARMIES in times of peace and it certainly doesn't allow for them in times of "extended engagements" during undeclared wars. Now, if you wish to discuss the various allocations for defense spending, that's a different story altogether.

    You should know that the biggest budget allocations are for our navy. This nation, from its birth, to the multiple Barbary Wars, War of 1812, Mexican-American War, Spanish-American War and so forth and so on has always allowed for a robust navy. It's one of the reasons why this nation has the biggest and most advanced navy than the rest of the world combined, twice over. Trade routes are also another reason why this nation has the biggest navy by far. Let's not get it twisted and label people as ignorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thanatos144 View Post
    Got that from a college professor huh? The USA has done more good in the world then ANY OTHER country and most of that was done by the US Military...Or do you think trade lanes dont need to be protected?
    lol you are brainwashed. cute.

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