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    Oddworld Dev Clarifies. PS4 and X1 Gap will NOT disappear.

    http://www.worldsfactory.net/2014/04...t-disappearing

    Previous article was taken out of context.

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    I don't see how anyone can realistically expect the XB1 to ever match the PS4. The last 6 months weren't a continuous exception to reality.

    However, I think what may, possibly, potentially, happen is the XB1 titles reaching the 1080p and/or 60fps sort of standard, just enough to levy it more in line with the PS4's pixel and frame output. But naturally the games themselves won't look as good, or have as many physical items interacting at once. Multiplatform games will continue showing the difference in hardware, but I can see XB1 exclusives doing this. For some people, the 1080p/60fps benchmark may be all they really want with the 'next-generation' console.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapture View Post
    I don't see how anyone can realistically expect the XB1 to ever match the PS4. The last 6 months weren't a continuous exception to reality.

    However, I think what may, possibly, potentially, happen is the XB1 titles reaching the 1080p and/or 60fps sort of standard, just enough to levy it more in line with the PS4's pixel and frame output. But naturally the games themselves won't look as good, or have as many physical items interacting at once. Multiplatform games will continue showing the difference in hardware, but I can see XB1 exclusives doing this. For some people, the 1080p/60fps benchmark may be all they really want with the 'next-generation' console.
    If they want to match PS4 in 1080P res, they will have to give up something else in graphics.

    Gap will always manifest either in resolution, lighting, texture, AA, framerates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapture View Post
    I don't see how anyone can realistically expect the XB1 to ever match the PS4. The last 6 months weren't a continuous exception to reality.

    However, I think what may, possibly, potentially, happen is the XB1 titles reaching the 1080p and/or 60fps sort of standard, just enough to levy it more in line with the PS4's pixel and frame output. But naturally the games themselves won't look as good, or have as many physical items interacting at once. Multiplatform games will continue showing the difference in hardware, but I can see XB1 exclusives doing this. For some people, the 1080p/60fps benchmark may be all they really want with the 'next-generation' console.
    Quote Originally Posted by AttackTitan View Post
    If they want to match PS4 in 1080P res, they will have to give up something else in graphics.

    Gap will always manifest either in resolution, lighting, texture, AA, framerates.
    Yeah pretty much how I see it too.

    Again, who knows with exclusives, but multiplats that continue to push either system, will likely show the disparities.

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    Certain exclusives should be able to mask the power gap from various gfx effects and art style. It'll be nothing to directly compare it to like you can with multiplats.

    But when we have Forza vs Gran Turismo...woo, that's going to tell a lot. Exclusives in the same genre that's shooting for the same realism art style.
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    But I was told by 2 members here that this was not the case.. One even goes into wall of text technical details each time!

    I'm confused

    Edit: Are we surprised that XboxAchievements took the response "out of context" during the interview?
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    Always nice to see when an article gets called out for being out of context.

    The backpedaling is always in enjoyable. Especially for the astroturfers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    I think we all could of guessed ms would close the gap. We already have games like Ryse and dead rising to show just how capable the console is. Just imagine when dx12 stuff starts to really get going. I think e3 is going to be a really good showcase for games for them. I got my fingers crossed for the next halo using dx12.
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    You don't know what the $#@! you are talking about 100% of the time when it concerns tech. Yet, you constantly open your mouth as if you understand any of whats going on. I can back this up with your various garbage tech post that are just flat out lies.

    Keep daydreaming. Nothing is going to change with this power gap.


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    Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha , this thread combined with the last just made my day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snooper71 View Post
    But I was told by 2 members here that this was not the case.. One even goes into wall of text technical details each time!

    I'm confused

    Edit: Are we surprised that XboxAchievements took the response "out of context" during the interview?
    Must be way to technical if you ever think anyone every told you that the power gap in these systems is going to disappear and they are going to be equal. Maybe you cant read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AttackTitan View Post
    If they want to match PS4 in 1080P res, they will have to give up something else in graphics.
    Just the general quality of it. Nothing that will critically render the game's ugly or faulty. Like Two4DaMoney said, certain developers will 'mask' and hide the difference better than others. It all comes down to things like art style, resource utilization, and the skill of the development team. Most gamers don't actually care about graphical show stoppers, so the developers will try to appeal to the more savvy gamers by saying, "See, our game is running at 1080p/60fps too!"

    That's just my prediction. Maybe devs will stick to the 720-900p range and 30fps to really push out higher graphical quality (like with Ryse, which I think we can admit does look pretty good). I don't know, but I do know developers for the console will do what they can to satisfy the consumer.
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    That gap again. I love this part of the article.

    Of course, this leaves us wondering if Xbox One will start getting 1080P@60FPS titles regularly anytime soon
    neither console probably wont, but i hope im wrong. I think 1080p 30fps will be the norm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha , this thread combined with the last just made my day.
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    Eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    That gap again. I love this part of the article.



    neither console probably wont, but i hope im wrong. I think 1080p 30fps will be the norm.
    Gap again?

    Nope gap was always there. It would be more appropriate to say "gap still?" and "gap forever"

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    Quote Originally Posted by AttackTitan View Post
    Gap again?

    Nope gap was always there. It would be more appropriate to say "gap still?" and "gap forever"
    yea, we know. It was "taken out of context"...lol if closing that gap comes with the unsteady framerates we have at 1080p with some games, then i would rather have 720 or 900.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    That gap again. I love this part of the article.



    neither console probably wont, but i hope im wrong. I think 1080p 30fps will be the norm.
    Of course 1080p/60fps won't be the normal. I can tell you now that it's not the reason that you are thinking.

    All devs can make all games run 1080p/60fps. Do you know what you lose by doing so though? Did you know that kojima could have made the xbone version of mgs:gz 1080p like the ps4? Do you know why he didn't?

    Edit:You all see how he ducked the simple question?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    yea, we know. It was "taken out of context"...lol if closing that gap comes with the unsteady framerates we have at 1080p with some games, then i would rather have 720 or 900.
    Yup. It seems like X1 is definately struggling framerate at 1080P and even on 900P too. Some games on X1 has framerate drop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    yea, we know. It was "taken out of context"...lol if closing that gap comes with the unsteady framerates we have at 1080p with some games, then i would rather have 720 or 900.
    Lol but the xb1 with 900p and 720 still can't maintain a solid 30fps or even 60fps on any games released to date

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    Eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungMullah88 View Post
    Lol but the xb1 with 900p and 720 still can't maintain a solid 30fps or even 60fps on any games released to date

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungMullah88 View Post
    Lol but the xb1 with 900p and 720 still can't maintain a solid 30fps or even 60fps on any games released to date

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha , this thread combined with the last just made my day.
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    Must be way to technical if you ever think anyone every told you that the power gap in these systems is going to disappear and they are going to be equal. Maybe you cant read.
    it's practically expected from gaming journalist.

    As i said on the main site and in the thread regarding the article. the dev never actually said anything close to "performance gap". Though he did talk about how the dev tools have progressed quite a ways.

    The only reference of "power gap" in the previous article was dreamed out of thin air by the author over at xboxachievments.

    People really need to start reading for themselves and stop letting themselves be spoon fed drivel from these "journalists".

    In fact, Journalism in general is pretty pants nowadays. Almost every single newspaper has columns and columns of Editors correcting the misinformation spread during the last issue....such journalism
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