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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapture View Post
    It would be really great if the included DLC, which is prequel scenes visited, was placed into the main campaign where the flashbacks actually take place, instead of just being an option to play from the main menu.
    I think that fits better with the narrative of the dlc though

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    Naughty Dog’s Arne Meyer on The Last of Us Remastered’s Cutscenes and 30 FPS vs 60 FPS Dilemma

    by Giuseppe Nelva on April 10, 2014 10:14 AM 62 @abriael
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    The reveal of The Last of Us Remastered for PS4 solved some mysteries, but of course it also created more questions. One of those questions is how Naughty Dog will handle cutscenes and frame rates, and Naughty Dog Community Strategist Arne Meyer shared more information and insight on NeoGAF.
    First of all, he was asked if cutscenes will use the original PS3 video files or if they’ll be re-rendered or even rendered in real time:
    That’s all still in progress, but they were at least be rerendered in the higher 1080 resolution plus maybe whatever else we can add. I highly doubt we’d do them real-time based on our past history with cinematics, so I wouldn’t hold my breath for that.
    Franklly, the visual fidelity of our PS3 cinematics were pretty fantastic. I’d love to see the gang push beyond that, but it is a pretty high bar to start from! As we get closer to release, etc., we can probably shed some more light on all this.
    He also weighed in on the discussion that sees supporters of 30 frames per second cinematics (and not just cinematics) pitched against those that prefer a higher framerate, or even full 60 FPS.
    We’ve been putting out games at 30fps (more or less, yeah) for a while now. I mean, if you want only 24fps, that will let us put a whole lot more effects in!
    Speaking less sarcastically, 30hz, 60hz and anything in between is more than just about being cinematic, it’s about the underlying systems that affect gameplay and how they refresh. Your body/eye can’t compensate for that like it does when watching 24fps source material on film. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a huge cinephile and buy Criterions, watch things in as original format as possible, etc., but in games, as most of us know, the higher the frame rate you can pull out, the better the overall experience, generally speaking.
    Games vs. TV don’t have that “soap opera” effect at higher than 24fps frame rates in my experience, but then again I’m not a dark10x frame rate peeper ; )
    I, for one, am looking forward to seeing our final result with TLOU PS4.
    Meyer definitely isn’t the only one that can’t wait. It’s actually interesting to see someone in his position saying clearly that for games a higher framerate (over 30 FPS) generally turns into a better overall experience. That kind of position is more rare than one would expect in the industry.

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    Yeah, that trailer def had ps4 footage now that I've seen pics.

    I hope the new difficulty is the orginal A.I. I can't find it but I remember ND talking about toning down the A.I because they were too smart and the game wasn't really fun.



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    Hopefully from the term "remastered" this isnt some crap HD version with same texture quality at 1080P.

    I want

    -better texture
    -better lighting
    -better AA
    -DLC. hopefully there is another unannounced DLC attached.

    on top of 1080p 60fps. To start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AttackTitan View Post
    Hopefully from the term "remastered" this isnt some crap HD version with same texture quality at 1080P.

    I want

    -better texture
    -better lighting
    -better AA
    -DLC. hopefully there is another unannounced DLC attached.

    on top of 1080p 60fps. To start.
    ...Um they already confirmed all of that except for another unannounced dlc. Gaf has already dissected tasty 15 sec clip

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungMullah88 View Post
    ...Um they already confirmed all of that except for another unannounced dlc. Gaf has already dissected tasty 15 sec clip

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    ohhh. Could you please link?

    I saw the clip, it was kinda hard to tell due to heavy compression, but couldnt see those improvements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AttackTitan View Post
    ohhh. Could you please link?

    I saw the clip, it was kinda hard to tell due to heavy compression, but couldnt see those improvements.
    Smoothed geometry, more detailed character models, lighting. Check out the building to the left for the textures







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    Tessellated Character and Environment models?
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    You know, those comparison images really serve to show how good the game looked, even on PS3.

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    Tessellated Character and Environment models?
    I doubt ND's engine was that mature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapture View Post
    YI doubt ND's engine was that mature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuuichi View Post
    First the hypocrisy in this thread is amazing how this title gets a magic by for the port while Tomb Raider was ripped to shread, and it is also amazing how no one seems to be throwing out the "just a few cosmetic difference" argument out there.
    Did you even bother to "verify" the hypocrisy? or did you just want to be the one to say that line regardless of if it is true or not?

    Before making statements like these, it helps to verify if the same people are doing the opposite of what they were doing in another thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapture View Post
    It would be really great if the included DLC, which is prequel scenes visited, was placed into the main campaign where the flashbacks actually take place, instead of just being an option to play from the main menu.
    Yeah, that is what they should do.

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    Looks like they put some good AA on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AttackTitan View Post
    Hopefully from the term "remastered" this isnt some crap HD version with same texture quality at 1080P.
    "I want"

    "-better texture
    -better lighting
    -better AA
    -DLC. hopefully there is another unannounced DLC attached."

    "on top of 1080p 60fps."

    "To start."

    Wow. Just wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K2D View Post
    "I want"

    "-better texture
    -better lighting
    -better AA
    -DLC. hopefully there is another unannounced DLC attached."

    "on top of 1080p 60fps."

    "To start."

    Wow. Just wow.
    For 60 bucks for a year old game port?

    Yes, definitely. That really isn't too much to ask.

    For a game on current gen at full price, I expect a current gen quality graphics or lower the dam price.

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    http://dkjdz4k7deoi9.cloudfront.net/...remastered.mov

    High Quality 60fps trailer. It looks way more gorgeous than that YouTube crap
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    Any news on the PS4 release?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AttackTitan View Post
    For 60 bucks for a year old game port?

    Yes, definitely. That really isn't too much to ask.

    For a game on current gen at full price, I expect a current gen quality graphics or lower the dam price.
    simple..dont get it..lol "To Start"..they aren't making a new game

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    Quote Originally Posted by AttackTitan View Post
    For 60 bucks for a year old game port?

    Yes, definitely. That really isn't too much to ask.

    For a game on current gen at full price, I expect a current gen quality graphics or lower the dam price.
    To be fair, there is no game on PS4 with a story any where near...or even in the same solar system, universe, or beyond, that comes close to the last of us.

    It's one giant, long, story told even while you are playing the game. This, i feel, will be a struggle for devs to top this gen. I feel even the next Uncharted will fall short of the standard set by the Last of Us.

    Granted the 'graphics' will look better in the next Uncharted, but the story and characters are likely to be far weaker. Ellie and Joel carried The Last of Us's story for it's entirety.

    imo, totally worth $60.
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    It just sounds so conceited to say it's "a good start" when your not even their target audience. Their doing this as a service to those that have yet to play it and those current owners who actually want it that much. I'll buy it to play the multiplayer.

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    I played through it on PS3 already except for the DLC but I'm getting it anyway because its such a great game.

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    This seems like a waste to me.

    I hope it isn't Naughty Dog that is handling this port. I cannot stand when the first thing a dev does with a new generation is port over a past gen game and give it a slightly better coat of paint and throw in a few extras.

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    Certainly doesn't justify the full price.

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    I see where it might be helpful in porting their engine over to the ps4, but I still see it as a moneygrab.

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