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    Changes to the disciplinary process

    After using the current system for about half a year now we've decided to make some changes based on our experience using it. The new system is more akin to how some other sites do it and simplifies things for the team.

    Previously reported posts worthy of action resulted in a warning followed by a 30 day 'probation' type period where further ill conduct would result in an automatic temp ban. There was another 30 day period following the conclusion of that ban which operated in the same way (auto temp ban for repeating offence). The idea behind this system was to incorporate strictness and leniency in one and to take a more communicative approach instead of a reactionary one.

    We have revived, reworked and reorganized the infraction system to hold that same spirit while making things much more straightforward for the team. It's still basically the same, albeit without the 30 days period resulting and auto temp bans.

    Now reported posts will be dealt with in one of two ways: A courtesy message from the staff or an official warning message. The former carries 0 infraction points and the latter carries 1. Whether members get a consequenceless PM kindly reminding them to support the site's rules or a warning which progresses them along the disciplinary path is up to the discretion of the staff based on poster history and the nature of the offence.

    The path is as follows:

    3 Points 2 Weeks
    5 Points 1 Months
    7 Points 3 Months
    9 Points 6 Months
    11 Points Permanent

    This system is now up and running and will be what we use moving forward. Infraction points will expire after 6 months so members who get all zen with their posting habits will descend back down the path to oblivion.

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    Are the current rules that show up on the infraction system current with our revised rules? Just checking as the text sorta cuts out for me.

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    Yeah, it's all coherent and inline with the site rules (which have not changed ladies and gents).

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    lol there aren't many people left to ban!


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    Quote Originally Posted by -Shafty- View Post
    lol there aren't many people left to ban!
    Says the guy that should have got banned years ago.

    Seriously, this Shafty fella is a bad news bear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darky89 View Post
    Says the guy that should have got banned years ago.

    Seriously, this Shafty fella is a bad news bear.
    they tried....


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    Ok... I was wrong. Happy?

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    We physically can't.

    He's like Agent Smith. Always replicates...

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    I see it's been decided we can't ing swear anymore.

    How come? I don't think it was abused at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darky89 View Post
    I see it's been decided we can't ing swear anymore.

    How come? I don't think it was abused at all.
    Oh, that's ing weird. Must be a joke someone up top did. It's not actually banned, don't worry.
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    Last edited by Brandon; 04-10-2014 at 12:23.
    "The biggest adversary in our life is ourselves. We are what we are, in a sense, because of the dominating thoughts we allow to gather in our head. All concepts of self-improvement, all actions and paths we take, relate solely to our abstract image of ourselves. Life is limited only by how we really see ourselves and feel about our being. A great deal of pure self-knowledge and inner understanding allows us to lay an all-important foundation for the structure of our life from which we can perceive and take the right avenues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PBM View Post
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    I'm going to report you for abuse of emoticons.
    Last edited by Brandon; 04-10-2014 at 12:23.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darky89 View Post
    I'm going to report you for abuse of emoticons.
    You're so mean, darky. Gosh.


    "The biggest adversary in our life is ourselves. We are what we are, in a sense, because of the dominating thoughts we allow to gather in our head. All concepts of self-improvement, all actions and paths we take, relate solely to our abstract image of ourselves. Life is limited only by how we really see ourselves and feel about our being. A great deal of pure self-knowledge and inner understanding allows us to lay an all-important foundation for the structure of our life from which we can perceive and take the right avenues.

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    I don't think smiley abuse is against the rules...but don't get any ideas! Also, swearing hasn't been forbidden, as Mr PBM said, he was feeling lulzy. I'm sure he will change it back...won#t you!?

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    Yes, but then I have to edit my above posts cuz they'll look really bad.


    Edit: Well ... it's now changed back ... but those smilies will not revert back it seems.
    "The biggest adversary in our life is ourselves. We are what we are, in a sense, because of the dominating thoughts we allow to gather in our head. All concepts of self-improvement, all actions and paths we take, relate solely to our abstract image of ourselves. Life is limited only by how we really see ourselves and feel about our being. A great deal of pure self-knowledge and inner understanding allows us to lay an all-important foundation for the structure of our life from which we can perceive and take the right avenues.

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    There actually hasn't been a public infraction in months. Just the usual red text posts or edits every now and then.
    Last edited by Metal King Slime; 04-16-2014 at 03:41.
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    The only site i can be banned for gregarious use of dollar signs... note my activity level recently.
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    Nobody is going to ban you for "gregarious use of dollar signs." If you are intentionally trying to annoy other members, that would be the issue, not the dollar signs. The site is moderated in the interest of the community as a whole, in a place where anyone can feel safe to post without feeling like they're being pissed on... not the needs of a single member whose interests do not parallel with the other 99% of the community. Be a part of the solution, not a part of the problem... and all should be good.
    Last edited by Brandon; 04-16-2014 at 18:26.
    "The biggest adversary in our life is ourselves. We are what we are, in a sense, because of the dominating thoughts we allow to gather in our head. All concepts of self-improvement, all actions and paths we take, relate solely to our abstract image of ourselves. Life is limited only by how we really see ourselves and feel about our being. A great deal of pure self-knowledge and inner understanding allows us to lay an all-important foundation for the structure of our life from which we can perceive and take the right avenues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PBM View Post
    Nobody is going to ban you for "gregarious use of dollar signs." If you are intentionally trying to annoy other members, that would be the issue, not the dollar signs. The site is moderated in the interest of the community as a whole, in a place where anyone can feel safe to post without feeling like they're being pissed on... not the needs of a single member whose interests do not parallel with the other 99% of the community. Be a part of the solution, not a part of the problem... and all should be good.
    coming from the guy that deletes my posts without mention?


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    Ok... I was wrong. Happy?

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    Don't make dumb posts. :]
    "The biggest adversary in our life is ourselves. We are what we are, in a sense, because of the dominating thoughts we allow to gather in our head. All concepts of self-improvement, all actions and paths we take, relate solely to our abstract image of ourselves. Life is limited only by how we really see ourselves and feel about our being. A great deal of pure self-knowledge and inner understanding allows us to lay an all-important foundation for the structure of our life from which we can perceive and take the right avenues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PBM View Post
    Don't make dumb posts. :]
    I was trying out the swear filter, something that you tampered with,no?

    This is a gaming site on the interwebz, 90% of the posts here are dumb!


    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
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    Be that as it may, deleting posts is up to the discretion of the staff. The filter was also already removed so 100% of the post was just vulgar nonsense. It just didn't need to be in this thread.
    "The biggest adversary in our life is ourselves. We are what we are, in a sense, because of the dominating thoughts we allow to gather in our head. All concepts of self-improvement, all actions and paths we take, relate solely to our abstract image of ourselves. Life is limited only by how we really see ourselves and feel about our being. A great deal of pure self-knowledge and inner understanding allows us to lay an all-important foundation for the structure of our life from which we can perceive and take the right avenues.

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    If posts need to be deleted, en masse, because they're stupid, potentially insulting (and not in the jesting/pking kind) and inflammatory; then yeah, they'll be deleted no question. Should it happen too many times for a single poster or group, then that's when you'll get mention.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Admartian View Post
    If you get a post deleted and don't hear anything from staff; that's probably a good/better thing than the alternative. )
    This. It's a clean up. Not a punishment.
    "The biggest adversary in our life is ourselves. We are what we are, in a sense, because of the dominating thoughts we allow to gather in our head. All concepts of self-improvement, all actions and paths we take, relate solely to our abstract image of ourselves. Life is limited only by how we really see ourselves and feel about our being. A great deal of pure self-knowledge and inner understanding allows us to lay an all-important foundation for the structure of our life from which we can perceive and take the right avenues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    After using the current system for about half a year now we've decided to make some changes based on our experience using it. The new system is more akin to how some other sites do it and simplifies things for the team.

    Previously reported posts worthy of action resulted in a warning followed by a 30 day 'probation' type period where further ill conduct would result in an automatic temp ban. There was another 30 day period following the conclusion of that ban which operated in the same way (auto temp ban for repeating offence). The idea behind this system was to incorporate strictness and leniency in one and to take a more communicative approach instead of a reactionary one.

    We have revived, reworked and reorganized the infraction system to hold that same spirit while making things much more straightforward for the team. It's still basically the same, albeit without the 30 days period resulting and auto temp bans.

    Now reported posts will be dealt with in one of two ways: A courtesy message from the staff or an official warning message. The former carries 0 infraction points and the latter carries 1. Whether members get a consequenceless PM kindly reminding them to support the site's rules or a warning which progresses them along the disciplinary path is up to the discretion of the staff based on poster history and the nature of the offence.

    The path is as follows:

    3 Points 2 Weeks
    5 Points 1 Months
    7 Points 3 Months
    9 Points 6 Months
    11 Points Permanent

    This system is now up and running and will be what we use moving forward. Infraction points will expire after 6 months so members who get all zen with their posting habits will descend back down the path to oblivion.
    Might wanna update the "revised rules and disciplinary process" thread:
    http://www.psu.com/forums/showthread...linary-process


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