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    So COD is still selling well? Better than BF4. LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgotha View Post
    MS store had a price cut, Best Buy\Wal Mart had them. The EU had some too.

    I don't know about NZ.

    Also, Amazon: http://www.engadget.com/2014/03/25/x...-with-discoun/


    Just do some googling man.

    I mean if you don't want to count these, then whatever that's on you. But let's not try to argue that there WERENT price cuts going around at major retailers world wide.
    Hmm seems you and I aren't on the same wavelength.

    Console @ $399, not bundled with anything. In fact they probably need console at $389.
    If they want to bundle games with that or not, up to them.
    But $450 is not in any way the same price as a PS4.

    In NZ I can pick a Ps4 for as cheap as $599.
    Now for me to consider a XBO (I'm not considering either at this point), I'd want to be looking at the same price or less.
    Last edited by mynd; 04-18-2014 at 00:29.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Hmm seems you and I aren't on the same wavelength.

    Console @ $399, not bundled with anything. In fact they probably need console at $389.
    If they want to bundle games with that or not, up to them.
    But $450 is not in any way the same price as a PS4.
    Your goal posts are different than mine. While this does not constitute an "official universal price drop" my only point was there WERE price cuts and bundle deals (some of which from MS themselves) all during this month.

    In spite of it all, plus TF marketing and buying out the gaming press, it still lost. Only point I'm making.

    It wasn't just "Titanfall + Hype vs "Infamous" there were price cuts and special bundling deals in addition to that.
    Last edited by Vulgotha; 04-18-2014 at 00:31.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgotha View Post
    They will remove Kinect from a new SKU. Calling it.
    Yep, think this is a given for E3 now.
    Remove Kinect and drop the price a hundred or more under PS4.

    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Still nothing on Titanfall reaching the 1 million magic mile?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgotha View Post
    Your goal posts are different than mine. While this does not constitute an "official universal price drop" my only point was there WERE price cuts and bundle deals (some of which from MS themselves) all during this month.

    In spite of it all, plus TF marketing and buying out the gaming press, it still lost. Only point I'm making.

    It wasn't just "Titanfall + Hype vs "Infamous" there were price cuts and special bundling deals in addition to that.
    Market is saying its not enough, even with these price cuts. I guess I should have said "drop the dam price to $399".

    You simply cant compete if you not at the same price, we saw that last gen with the PS3 in America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Market is saying its not enough, even with these price cuts. I guess I should have said "drop the dam price to $399".

    You simply cant compete if you not at the same price, we saw that last gen with the PS3 in America.

    But the Xbox One can't compete with the PS4 even at $399. Not unless they're willing to EAT the cost of going down $100 while still keeping Kinect.

    Even then, I wouldn't consider it favorable. It's still the demonstrably weaker machine across the board, you only get the 'novelty' of Kinect.. Plus the usual laundry list of gripes against the machine (not being able to update hard drive, etc).


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    Sony rubbing salt on the wound.

    Today’s NPD report confirmed that PlayStation 4 was No. 1 in sales for March and extended its cumulative lead for next generation game consoles, despite continued supply constraints. NPD also highlighted that PlayStation sold the most total consoles and demand for inFAMOUS Second Son was extremely strong.
    http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/04/...famous-demand/

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    they won't cut out the kinect. i've been calling it since the beginning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgotha View Post
    But the Xbox One can't compete with the PS4 even at $399. Not unless they're willing to EAT the cost of going down $100 while still keeping Kinect.

    Even then, I wouldn't consider it favorable. It's still the demonstrably weaker machine across the board, you only get the 'novelty' of Kinect.
    Err I said that, I suggested $389.
    If they can remove the camera, keep the voice recognition and the IR blaster, then they could sell at $389, I think they would be ok.

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    MS has to be $#@!ting their pants at the thought of returning the xbone back to $499 with no game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    they won't cut out the kinect. i've been calling it since the beginning.
    What dopes it honestly bring to the table outside of being able to talk to your TV?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Err I said that, I suggested $389.
    If they can remove the camera, keep the voice recognition and the IR blaster, then they could sell at $389, I think they would be ok.

    They'd still be taking a loss per unit sold AFAIK. The Xbox One even sans Kinect is more expensive to make isn't it?

    But yes, if they're willing to deal with that and back tracking on the Kinect BS, this may be viable. I think this would be a sound strategy to take.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bitbydeath View Post
    "Despite continued supply constraints." Wow.

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    Yes sir! Looks like titanfall did better than we thought. 7 million ps4s and over 5 million xb1s. Oh yea, it's getting good. Next up, E-3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    Yes sir! Looks like titanfall did better than we thought. 7 million ps4s and over 5 million xb1s. Oh yea, it's getting good. Next up, E-3.
    Where are you getting 5 million from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    Yes sir! Looks like titanfall did better than we thought. 7 million ps4s and over 5 million xb1s. Oh yea, it's getting good. Next up, E-3.
    Over 7 million. And where did the over 5 million for X1 come from? Did MS release new numbers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bitbydeath View Post
    Where are you getting 5 million from?
    Hope as far I can tell.
    I mean he's probably right, but there isn't anything official.
    I could see them shifting a million units in the past 3 months.
    I'd consider the XBO dead if it hasn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    What dopes it honestly bring to the table outside of being able to talk to your TV?
    track your emotions/expressions, movements, and i'm sure many other forms of data collection. it's worth a lot to them to keep it in the bundle. heck, it would be worth it to them to give it for free...which i'm surprised they haven't done yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    Yes sir! Looks like titanfall did better than we thought. 7 million ps4s and over 5 million xb1s. Oh yea, it's getting good. Next up, E-3.
    5m+? link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    track your emotions/expressions, movements, and i'm sure many other forms of data collection. it's worth a lot to them to keep it in the bundle. heck, it would be worth it to them to give it for free...which i'm surprised they haven't done yet.

    5m+? link?
    <right>

    What dopes it honestly bring to the table for me as a gamer outside of being able to talk to your TV?

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    We’re also happy to share today that more than 5 million Xbox One consoles have been sold-in to retailers since our launch. The new generation is off to a strong start, with global Xbox One sales outpacing Xbox 360 by more than 60 percent at the same point in time
    http://news.xbox.com/2014/04/xbox-one-march-npd

    I see now where he got it from. He loves posting $#@! without links
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    <right>

    What dopes it honestly bring to the table for me as a gamer outside of being able to talk to your TV?
    Knowing the NSA is keeping you safe while you game? Irrespective of your nationality?

    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney
    http://news.xbox.com/2014/04/xbox-one-march-npd

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    Um 7 million sold to customers vs 5 million sold to retailers?? The thing is ms PR actually worked with polygon and other sites running with the headline of only 2 million difference (it's actually not)

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    The gap keeps widening. Lots of spinning going on, but fact is X1 threw out their trump card and it flopped even with discounts on the system in the US. Titanfall, by itself, should have propelled X1 over PS4 for AT LEAST one month, for crying out loud. It couldn't even do that. I guarantee you the folks at Microsoft are pissed right now. Maybe Spencer can right the ship. Someone needs to.
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    As expected and Titanfall is number one including both the X1 and PC versions of the game. The US is MS biggest territory and the only place it can compe ...used to compete. That year head start, countless price drops and having the better versions of third party games is a loooooooong time ago. Now that everything is equal MS can not compete head to head.

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    FY06       -         -        1.7       1.8       3.5       3.5
    
    FY07      0.7       1.3       4.9       2.2       9.1       12.6
    The xbone quarter isn't looking too well when you compare it to other consoles 1st Ja-Mr FY period. Edit: its did better than the WiiU's 1st ja-mr

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    FY 2012/13       -        -      3.06     0.39      3.45     3.45
    
    FY 2013/14     0.16     0.30     1.95      -        2.41     5.86
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