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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    It's not a new definition. If I'm not mistaken it's been that way. It's not about what we think it is or should be. We don't determine what's AAA. It's sure isn't just about quality, that's for sure.


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    oh i know, i meant for you, since your definition changed from what you had said earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Shafty- View Post
    AAA means huuuge budget, a bit like your summer blockbuster type movies

    I don't really think there are that many games that deserve the AAA title, outside of your GTA's and COD's.

    AAA doesn't mean they have to be good either
    Pretty much this. There really isn't much more to it. It's just when people perceive a game will be great they want to throw that AAA tag on it. I'm guilty of it myself but it's mostly just big budget titles.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    oh i know, i meant for you, since your definition changed from what you had said earlier.
    We'll, it wasn't really a definition when I said it was AAA. The game us going to be huge as far as content. Probably bigger than any other free to play title.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    We'll, it wasn't really a definition when I said it was AAA. The game us going to be huge as far as content. Probably bigger than any other free to play title.


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    you mean, user created content. they are giving you tools. yeah, i know what you mean, it's like LBP, you make the levels, other people play it. that alone doesn't qualify it as an AAA game. unless you mean you love the game and you think it's an awesome game. that i can understand. but calling it AAA and then giving us the definition, which doesn't actually go with your earlier post, is not how it should be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    you mean, user created content. they are giving you tools. yeah, i know what you mean, it's like LBP, you make the levels, other people play it. that alone doesn't qualify it as an AAA game. unless you mean you love the game and you think it's an awesome game. that i can understand. but calling it AAA and then giving us the definition, which doesn't actually go with your earlier post, is not how it should be done.
    that alone doesn't qualify it as not one either.
    It's similar to LBP, but much deeper. You can do much more than just create levels to share. You actually create everything. From the way your character moves to assigning buttons, and even the plot. Team Dakota would disagree with it not being AAA. They know the value and what it took to make his project more than anyone else. Hell, minecraft may not be considered AAA but some would disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Shafty- View Post
    AAA means huuuge budget, a bit like your summer blockbuster type movies

    I don't really think there are that many games that deserve the AAA title, outside of your GTA's and COD's.

    AAA doesn't mean they have to be good either
    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    A lot of gamers are confused as to what a AAA game is. Clever marketing and help from the gaming press leads gamers to think AAA means quality, but the truth is that it has more to do with production values, the budget, the manpower that went into it, and its market values.


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    Weak games listed for AAA.

    Makes me think X1 doesnt really have good AAA and have to use this weak titles as an excuse for AAA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AttackTitan View Post
    Weak games listed for AAA.

    Makes me think X1 doesnt really have good AAA and have to use this weak titles as an excuse for AAA.
    And whats AAA on the other side of the coin? I mean going by definitions around here Naughty dog would be the only qualifying studio.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    And whats AAA on the other side of the coin? I mean going by definitions around here Naughty dog would be the only qualifying studio.


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    So you prefer quality definition of AAA when you count Sony games and very loose and ambiguous definition when you count MS games to bloat up the numbers.

    LOL.

    Edit.

    Not even sure what you are trying to start by trying to bring up Sony in comparison.

    I mean going over studio list of Sony will just destroy MS. Without Bungie and Epic, MS has no first class studio to begin with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    that alone doesn't qualify it as not one either.
    mind blown.
    It's similar to LBP, but much deeper. You can do much more than just create levels to share. You actually create everything. From the way your character moves to assigning buttons, and even the plot.
    of course it's much more deep than LBP, i brought up the game as a reference point.
    Team Dakota would disagree with it not being AAA. They know the value and what it took to make his project more than anyone else. Hell, minecraft may not be considered AAA but some would disagree.
    you do realize that the "value" of the game and "production values" are two completely different things?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    mind blown.
    of course it's much more deep than LBP, i brought up the game as a reference point.
    you do realize that the "value" of the game and "production values" are two completely different things?
    it doesn't matter. The point is that only people involved withe actual game knows those things. as gamers we only get to experience the finished product. We don't know the facts about what went into bringing the game to fruition. If ms considers it AAA then that's what it is for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AttackTitan View Post
    So you prefer quality definition of AAA when you count Sony games and very loose and ambiguous definition when you count MS games to bloat up the numbers.

    LOL.
    No, I don't prefer that, I said GOING BY DEFINITIONS AROUND HERE.
    LEARN TO READ FOR ****S SAKE.

    Edit.

    Not even sure what you are trying to start by trying to bring up Sony in comparison.

    I mean going over studio list of Sony will just destroy MS. Without Bungie and Epic, MS has no first class studio to begin with.
    I'm just intrigued by dismissal of "everything MS" as to what qualifies on the other side of the coin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    it doesn't matter. The point is that only people involved withe actual game knows those things. as gamers we only get to experience the finished product. We don't know the facts about what went into bringing the game to fruition. If ms considers it AAA then that's what it is for them.
    so i guess all games are AAA because no one thinks their game is just great or good or meh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Project Spark, Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive, D4.
    None of these games will appeal to the public like Gears and Halo. they won't promote them anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    that alone doesn't qualify it as not one either.
    It's similar to LBP, but much deeper. You can do much more than just create levels to share. You actually create everything. From the way your character moves to assigning buttons, and even the plot. Team Dakota would disagree with it not being AAA. They know the value and what it took to make his project more than anyone else. Hell, minecraft may not be considered AAA but some would disagree.
    No it is not much deeper since no one has played it to know if MS will deliver on their premise. That is what they want to achieve but no proof of that type of creation tools were shown.It's another Milo until proven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkNemesis View Post
    No it is not much deeper since no one has played it to know if MS will deliver on their premise. That is what they want to achieve but no proof of that type of creation tools were shown.It's another Milo until proven.
    Well, i guess the beta we've been playing is just make believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    No, I don't prefer that, I said GOING BY DEFINITIONS AROUND HERE.
    LEARN TO READ FOR ****S SAKE.
    Have zero problem reading. I was pointing out your bs standards.

    First define what AAA exactly "Going by definitions around here" is. As far as I can tell, we don't have consensus besides that it is ridiculous to use bs definition to purposely bloat MS's list.

    I'm just intrigued by dismissal of "everything MS" as to what qualifies on the other side of the coin.
    IF you really want to bring up the "vs" into this thread, here.
    I will just put this comparison out there with track records.

    PS4
    Steady 90s Metascore:
    Naughty Dog
    Team ICO(very small and doesnt hold weight as a full studio as ND)

    Occasional 90s Metascore:
    Media Molecule
    San diego
    Santa Monica

    Mostly 80s Metascore:
    Polyphony Digital
    Suckerpunch
    Guerilla Games
    Evolution

    Xbox One
    Steady 90s Metascore:


    NONE

    Occasional 90s Metascore:

    Turn 10

    Mostly 80s Metascore

    343 Studio

    Junk Bond or Junk Bond endangered
    Rare
    Lionhead

    No track record
    Team Dakota
    Black Tusk - rumored to trash and canned every project worked to date before gears.


    Please do not bring up vague definition of AAA to somehow boost how miserable state MS is in in terms of studios.

    and boom
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    Quote Originally Posted by PS4freak View Post
    Since we are on the subject, I've got a flat tire. My vehicle is broke down on the side of the road. Who do I call?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AttackTitan View Post
    Have zero problem reading. I was pointing out your bs standards.

    First define what AAA exactly "Going by definitions around here" is. As far as I can tell, we don't have consensus besides that it is ridiculous to use bs definition to purposely bloat MS's list.
    If you had read the thread, you woudl know I consider any game with a large budget and resources behind it Triple A.
    I also agree with other who have said it has little to do with the actual quality of the product.

    I dont consider Naughty Dog SOnys only AAA studio based on MY creiteria.
    Based on the criteria put forward by you and others, then clearly they are.

    Becuase you seem to think any studio is only AAA if there last game was any good.



    IF you really want to bring up the "vs" into this thread, here.
    I will just put this comparison out there with track records.

    PS4
    Steady 90s Metascore:
    Naughty Dog
    Team ICO(very small and doesnt hold weight as a full studio as ND)

    Occasional 90s Metascore:
    Media Molecule
    San diego
    Santa Monica

    Mostly 80s Metascore:
    Polyphony Digital
    Suckerpunch
    Guerilla Games
    Evolution

    Xbox One
    Steady 90s Metascore:


    NONE

    Occasional 90s Metascore:

    Turn 10

    Mostly 80s Metascore

    343 Studio

    Junk Bond or Junk Bond endangered
    Rare
    Lionhead

    No track record
    Team Dakota
    Black Tusk - rumored to trash and canned every project worked to date before gears.


    Please do not bring up vague definition of AAA to somehow boost how miserable state MS is in in terms of studios.

    and boom
    Keep up the crusade
    I hope you realize you just proved what I said.
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    So the only excitement for the XBox one is TV shows?????? I already pay for cable why the **** do I need a new bill to watch TV on a GAME console? This doesn't dawn on many of you that this is the main reason the xb1 is failing? They turned a game console into a expensive tv remote.

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