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    California man sues Sony over Killzone: Shadow Fall

    Sony is being sued in the state of California over its claims of 1080p resolution in Killzone: Shadow Fall.
    Word comes by way of Polygon, which cites the lawsuit being filed in Northern California by a man named Douglas Ladore. Ladoreís claim is simple: Sony advertised the PlayStation 4 launch title Killzone: Shadow Fall as running in 1080p resolution, but instead ďused a shortcut that was supposed to provide Ďsubjectively similarí results," particularly in multiplayer.

    As you may recall, the hullaballoo surrounding Killzone: Shadow Fallís resolution occurred well after launch. Shadow Fall came to market in November of 2013, but it wasnít until March of 2014 that claims began circulating that Shadow Fallís multiplayer, in particular, didnít run at 1080p or 60 frames-per-second, as claimed. Eurogamerís Digital Foundry reported that while the single-player campaign runs at 1080p, multiplayer ran at 960x1080 at around 50 frames, as opposed to 1920x1080 at 60.
    At the time, Digital Foundry wrote the following:

    Shadow Fall uses a horizontal interlace, with every other column of pixels generated using a temporal upscale - in effect, information from previously rendered frames is used to plug the gaps. The fact that few have actually noticed that any upscale at all is in place speaks to its quality, and we can almost certainly assume that this effect is not cheap from a computational perspective. However, at the same time it also confirms that a massive reduction in fill-rate isn't a guaranteed dead cert for hitting 60fps.

    Sony retorted, claiming Shadow Fall uses some tricks to reach 1080p quality parity. The gameís producer, Poria Torkan, said this:

    In both SP and MP, Killzone Shadow Fall outputs a full, unscaled 1080p image at up to 60fps. Native is often used to indicate images that are not scaled; it is native by that definition.
    In multiplayer mode, however, we use a technique called 'temporal reprojection', which combines pixels and motion vectors from multiple lower-resolution frames to reconstruct a full 1080p image. If native means that every part of the pipeline is 1080p then this technique is not native.
    Games often employ different resolutions in different parts of their rendering pipeline. Most games render particles and ambient occlusion at a lower resolution, while some games even do all lighting at a lower resolution. This is generally still called native 1080p. The technique used in Killzone Shadow Fall goes further and reconstructs half of the pixels from past frames.
    We recognise the community's degree of investment on this matter, and that the conventional terminology used before may be too vague to effectively convey what's going on under the hood. As such we will do our best to be more precise with our language in the future.

    Such an explanation was not enough for Ladore, who is purportedly suing Sony Computer Entertainment for more than $5 million for false advertisement, amongst other charges.
    We've reached out to Sony for comment, and will update when we hear back.
    source: http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/08/0...ource=facebook

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    Saw this earlier...I don't recall Sony advertising 1080p "rendered" pixels.

    The final image still has 1920x1080 pixels, just half the horizontal pixels are reused from the previous frame (essentially).

    Some people are so stupid, really. Forget molehills, this is literally turning a pimple into Mt. Everest.
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    I wonder if he will sue MacDonald's because Ronald's not a real clown....

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    I hope something backfires and he ends up paying out the ass with fees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    I hope something backfires and he ends up paying out the ass with fees.
    Prob Sony is known to,fight

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    Waste of tax dollars and a waste of time. I hope it's thrown out quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    I wonder if he will sue MacDonald's because Ronald's not a real clown....
    You back?

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    Wow. That's next level angry sony fanboy right there.

    #IndieStation4 and proud of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bitbydeath View Post
    You back?
    It would appear so

    Somethings are important in life...suing Sony over pixel count is not one of them.
    Having fun with a game on the other hand.....

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    To keep my sanity in check i tried not to look at the price he's asking....curiosity got the better of me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fijiandoce View Post
    To keep my sanity in check i tried not to look at the price he's asking....curiosity got the better of me

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    Well you know the damage sub 1080 resolutions can do on a man....

    Last edited by mynd; 2 Weeks Ago at 23:41.

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    Even in the unlikely event he wins, what makes him think he's due $5million in "damages"!?!?!?

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    Read this on reddit earlier and just thought, the things people will do for money. But oh well he'll end up disappointed learning that instead of winning anything he lost a few bucks in filing the suit.


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    Hes definitely clutching at straws with this

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    What a pleb.

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    I'm going to sue Apple as my phone wasn't actually made from Apple.

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    He should be dismissed with a back-hand slap to the the face. Can't say I'm not amused by this though..

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    Sony being sued over Killzone: Shadowfall resolution

    http://kotaku.com/someones-suing-son...80p-1617200896

    Proving the theory that anyone will sue anyone for anything, a legal firm filed a class-action lawsuit for $5 million against Sony yesterday because the multiplayer mode in PS4 game Killzone: Shadowfall doesn't run at a "native" resolution of 1080p.
    Yep, this is for real. The suit, which you can read below, alleges that Sony misled gamers with the newest Killzone by using technology to replicate high-resolution graphics instead of actually providing them.
    Click above link for full story.

    I find it odd that Sony is being sued over this, but hey.. there has been weirder $#@! sued over.




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    Quote Originally Posted by BBK.. View Post
    I'm going to sue Apple as my phone wasn't actually made from Apple.
    I'm suing Apple for false advertisement.. They claim the 5s is made by APPLE but from the logo on mine it looks like it was made by BITTEN APPLE.


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    Only in Murica. What a tool this guy must be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBK.. View Post
    I'm going to sue Apple as my phone wasn't actually made from Apple.

    I might sue Microsoft as my Windows phone cannot actually be used as a window

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    You need to turn on the camera first

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    Ugh, seriously, this guy is dumber than that dude who bought a picture of an XBO on ebay thinking it was somehow a real XBO.

    This won't go anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    i wonder if he will sue macdonald's because ronald's not a real clown....
    ....................................... what?!?!?!


    Quote Originally Posted by Sylar View Post
    I might sue Microsoft as my Windows phone cannot actually be used as a window
    Windows Phone buddy! *high five*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    Ugh, seriously, this guy is dumber than that dude who bought a picture of an XBO on ebay thinking it was somehow a real XBO.

    This won't go anywhere.
    Reminds me of a eBay story someone bought a TV that had the description of "great picture" and yep... You got it

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