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    November update for Xbox one is awesome.


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    "A New Way to Watch TV – With new Live TV and Twitter integration, you can discover new shows to love and see what people are saying on Twitter about shows in real-time."

    the trending feature on live tv and such is also a great feature.

    snap feature is awesome, i'd love to be able to snap my internet browser next to my games.

    all in all the update looks very solid and iirc more exciting than what we're getting on the PS4 (unless the feature is coming with 2.00 on ps4 where you play with your friends without a disc).

    my only worry is that i don't trust MS and i don't know what they do with this data they collect.

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    Yes it is, i wish i had this sort of stuff on my ps4

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    Don't want to turn this into a Sony thread but~~~yeah but you did. and i had to clean unnecessary stuff~~
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    some really cool things there, I especially like the wallpapers you unlock from earning achievements that is really clever, nice to see all the things that will be waiting when I eventually get a Xbone!




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    Wall of the text takes the KO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Wall of the text takes the KO!
    Lol sometimes I see all that text and just give up, close the app and do something else

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungMullah88 View Post
    Lol sometimes I see all that text and just give up, close the app and do something else
    Yup

    Looking really good.
    Just waiting for a little more of a price drop and I'll jump on a sunset overdrive and Horizon 2 bundle. Seen a white sunset overdrive bundle for 309 but will probably bite at sub 300.
    Guessing Kinect is a must for voice commands?

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    Taking inspiration from the end of Season 5 of Dr. Who, I've restarted this thread's universe after seeing the cracks in time with off-topic, and bickering. Stick to thread, no need for bringing up stuff that doesn't belong.

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    @admartian. this post took me more than 7 minutes to write but it will be my last on the vs topic.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    "x1's OS is a double-edged sword, it's exciting and has tons of awesome features but it's also slow and not to the point. i would still prefer the x1 OS if it wasn't so slow and it also takes up a lot of resources (GPU power) that PS4's OS does not."

    OK, that quote above is what you said initially. That to me sound like you're saying its slow. And what do mean takes more resources? Doesnt ps4 and Xbox have about the same amount of RAM available for games? And what about the 8GB of flash memory inside xbox one? I'm sure its used in some way to help with those os features, and how is their OS hindering game development? There is no proof of that. Maybe kinect did but I've never heard of the OS having any affect on games.
    we don't know the official number but the 10% reserve was taken by both kinect and the OS. and the key feature that took GPU power was snap. we know that much for sure. and it is common sense, anything displayed on the screen...in addition to the game would take up GPU power. especially if it's showing right beside it. just being able to snap it on and off would also take GPU power because that's a very complicated task.

    they do have about the same amount of RAM available but PS4 has a bit more available. we know that X1 could use a lot more RAM that it already does because it's much slower than GDDR5's...and the GPU is slower as well. so their decision to go with multiple OSes means you're just screwing up for resources that the X1 could use for games. at the least they could've made it GDDR5 but a bit more (like 12GB total) would not have hurt.

    PS4's OS takes up the RAM because they wanted to keep the OS fast...so when everything is already loaded up at boot, you don't have to wait for it to execute. on the X1, they instead chose to have multiple OSes, that creates RAM usage. so instead of running basic services in the background, they instead make them into an app...which is what Win 8 is good at, making an app out of everything. on the desktop version of win 8, your PC settings are actually an app...that's how they try to save RAM usage (because you can close the app and gain that RAM back, you can't do that on the PS4, they are meant to be running constantly).

    so while the X1 may run well once the app has been opened...it's the first time after you boot your X1 that the app will take longer to load up. and if it doesn't and is still in the RAM, sooner or later they will need to flush it out...so it works a lot like PCs are designed to but it's also not very convenient and imo it would cause more errors in the long run because each time they have an update, they have to make sure that the apps run and they can choose not to…that may be what’s going on with the friends list issues. Since it’s an app and not seen as a critical part of the system, they could just update the system and not care about the app and maybe update/fix the app later. Imo it can cause the devs to be lazy but it’s good that MS has the resources to get these fixes out faster than Sony but Sony’s system should also be more solid to begin with because there isn’t a lot of complexity to it.

    how it hinders game development is that you have less GPU power available + less CPU cores available because those are being used for features like snap. Those things while are cool, come at a cost as well. So it’s difficult for me to say that i would choose that over the more simpler approach when I’m a minimalist. It’s cool but at the same time, at what cost? Consoles are already weak enough, I feel that there needs to be a better balance. So while I agree with Sony’s approach, they really should be adding more stuff to it like MS does and X1 features are definitely tempting and if I wanted a secondary console where I’m playing games that aren’t already out on the PS4, I could see myself being into it but I already don’t buy a lot of games to begin with as I don’t have time to play so I don’t see myself getting it. in addition, I just don’t like MS. I don’t trust them. and I keep Sony at an arm’s length but I do like that Sony aren’t American so something big like data collection would have to go through their Japan HQ and I don’t think they’re as cynical yet. And yes, I say this while considering the root key fiasco. DRM is a completely different issue than data collection.
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    Come on GazzaGSi/Sy. Get one then I'll have people to play with. All my active friends are on those on my ps4 friends list

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    Quote Originally Posted by TidalPhoenix View Post
    Come on GazzaGSi/Sy. Get one then I'll have people to play with. All my active friends are on those on my ps4 friends list
    If I do you'll be the first I add as I know no one with one! Will be a right loner

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    Quote Originally Posted by TidalPhoenix View Post
    Come on GazzaGSi/Sy. Get one then I'll have people to play with. All my active friends are on those on my ps4 friends list

    Haha i MIGHT be able to get one before Christmas :P




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    Quote Originally Posted by Lethal View Post
    Microsoft was always really good at improving the UI.

    yep, they do it very well. The xbox one UI has improved a lot.

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    Well I have my PS4 since launch, and tonight got my XB1 this Nov update looks great. I can't wait to play the exclusives on the XB1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylar View Post
    some really cool things there, I especially like the wallpapers you unlock from earning achievements that is really clever, nice to see all the things that will be waiting when I eventually get a Xbone!
    I agree, that is pretty clever, and they could also allow us to unlock themes (which they have traditionally charged for.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GazzaGSi View Post
    If I do you'll be the first I add as I know no one with one! Will be a right loner
    lol I'll help you not look like a Billy No-mates

    It might even convince me to go and pick up Forza Horizon 2 (already got Forza 5)

    Quote Originally Posted by Sylar View Post
    Haha i MIGHT be able to get one before Christmas :P
    DOOO IT! DOOO IT! DOOO IT!

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    I have the November update and it is not bad, but not really user friendly. All these updates has made the UI cumbersome and confusing. I can not figure out how to showcase older achievements, or game clips. I can only seem to showcase things in my recent activity.

    I have set background images that I have unlocked, but there is no point in doing so. All those blocks on the dashboard block out 85% of the image.

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