NFL Thread

[KingJordan]

Why would anybody want Moss on their team? He's a complete nutcase and isn't all that special anymore...

[Theft]

Why would anybody want Moss on their team? He's a complete nutcase and isn't all that special anymore...

People said the same thing about Corey Dillon, and look at the production the Patriots got out of him. Not to mention extremely good behavior.

[DayWalker]

I agree with King... although I would take Moss but I wouldn't pay him very much.

I felt the same way about TO when the Broncos were in the running for his services.

I'd much rather have a Harrison or Rice than either of those guys...

[KingJordan]

People said the same thing about Corey Dillon, and look at the production the Patriots got out of him. Not to mention extremely good behavior.

idk, maybe it would work.

Although I could definately see Moss mocking Shawn Merriman's dance after beating the Chargers in the playoffs like this year.

[DayWalker]

I want Moss out of the AFC... my boyz have to deal with twice a year right now (successfully too I might add)

Send him to Wisconsin!!!!

[Theft]

idk, maybe it would work.

Although I could definately see Moss mocking Shawn Merriman's dance after beating the Chargers in the playoffs like this year.

So could I But I agree with you too Daywalker, I don't think he will get paid as much as he used to until he straightens up, so maybe a two year deal or something.

[DayWalker]

Both of you need tougher divisional opponents (King and Theft)

I am tired of the Pats being able to waltz their way into the playoffs every year... its almost as bad as the NFC WEST during the 49ers reign in the late 80s

[Theft]

Both of you need tougher divisional opponents (King and Theft)

I am tired of the Pats being able to waltz their way into the playoffs every year... its almost as bad as the NFC WEST during the 49ers reign in the late 80s

Just because you ph33r playing us Daywalker. And I think you will get your wish this next season bc the Dolphins and Jets should be pretty competitive. (and yes I used l337 speak on j00)

[DayWalker]

Colts Rhodes goes to the Raiders...

I'm not worried... it's the Raiders

[Theft]

Colts Rhodes goes to the Raiders...

I'm not worried... it's the Raiders

Yeah they don't scare me at all..

[DayWalker]

too bad really... I used to look forward to playing the raiders for an entirely different reason... nowadays its just another W.

[Theft]

too bad really... I used to look forward to playing the raiders for an entirely different reason... nowadays its just another W.

Well it's nice to know when you look at the schedule you got some wins coming your way.

[DayWalker]

Check out ESPN.com

Pats
Broncos
Bucs

Have had the best offseason so far
Personally I don't even no what the Bucs have done... but I know my boys have been doing great!!!

[Theft]

Check out ESPN.com

Pats
Broncos
Bucs

Have had the best offseason so far
Personally I don't even no what the Bucs have done... but I know my boys have been doing great!!!

The Bucs have addressed their greatest issue that has been going 5 years strong and that's the QB position. Jeff Garcia will make them somewhat of a contender and will take them over .500 this next season.

[Blu-Ray]

Tatum Bell to my Lions is VERY good... but our coaches won't take advantage of it so who cares...

[DayWalker]

The Bucs have addressed their greatest issue that has been going 5 years strong and that's the QB position. Jeff Garcia will make them somewhat of a contender and will take them over .500 this next season.

eh... I remain skeptical... Garcia ain't bad... well not as bad as a lot of people seem to think he is... but .500 is about as far as I see him elevating the Bucs...

Tatum Bell to my Lions is VERY good... but our coaches won't take advantage of it so who cares...

I kinda like Tatum... fast as hell and gone once he gets that corner...

But if you ever need a 3rd and short/goal... he is not your man.
I think I saw him break two tackles while he was here.

But you're right... Detroit needs to revamp their front office... they're kinda like Arizona it that respect.

[Blu-Ray]

eh... I remain skeptical... Garcia ain't bad... well not as bad as a lot of people seem to think he is... but .500 is about as far as I see him elevating the Bucs...



I kinda like Tatum... fast as hell and gone once he gets that corner...

But if you ever need a 3rd and short/goal... he is not your man.
I think I saw him break two tackles while he was here.

But you're right... Detroit needs to revamp their front office... they're kinda like Arizona it that respect.

Don't forget about Kevin Jones... Pro-Bowl RB without injuries..

BTW..Fire Milleuin.. if that's how you even spell it.

[DayWalker]

Looks like Brady got himself a new toy... congrats Theft.

Nothing Champ can't handle though

[Theft]

Looks like Brady got himself a new toy... congrats Theft.

Nothing Champ can't handle though

Heh, well your other defenders need to watch out for Caldwell, Gaffney, Welker and Jackson. Champ can stay on any of those, there is bound to be one open now. ^^

Did you read how messed up the contract is for Stallworth though. For all of the lazy people here,

Stallworth might spend just one year with Patriots

By Michael Smith and Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com





The Patriots continued their offseason spending spree, adding wide receiver Donte' Stallworth to their 2007 haul, league sources told ESPN.com.

The deal -- negotiated by agent Drew Rosenhaus, who concluded a frenetic week in free agency by constructing a contract that met the needs of all parties -- can be as brief as one season or as lengthy as six. But for the Patriots to retain Stallworth beyond the 2007 season, a year in which he will make $3.6 million in bonuses and salary, New England will have to make a significant investment.
Stallworth will receive an initial signing bonus of $1 million, a roster bonus of $1.6 million and a $300,000 workout bonus, to go along with his 2007 base salary of $700,000. That totals $3.6 million for the coming season.
It's after the 2007 season, however, when the really big money could potentially kick in.
For the Patriots to retain Stallworth for the 2008 season, they must pay him an option bonus of $6 million by Feb. 25, 2008. There is a subsequent roster bonus of $2 million due on March 1, a second roster bonus of $1.6 million based on playing time, a base salary of $1 million and a $400,000 workout bonus. That totals an exorbitant $11 million for 2008, or a two-year total of $14.6 million.
To keep Stallworth for 2009, the Patriots would have to pay another option bonus, this one of $2 million, by Feb. 25 of that year. In terms of bonuses and base salary, the 2009 season would be worth $5 million to Stallworth, for a three-year total of $19.6 million.
The final three seasons of the contract all include workout bonuses of $500,000 each and base salaries of $4 million each. The maximum value of the contract, if the Patriots were to keep Stallworth for all six years, is $33.1 million.
An initial report on ESPN.com saying the deal was worth a guaranteed $12 million was later clarified by a source, who said the deal -- which only guarantees one year -- gives Stallworth and the Patriots flexibility.
The rationale behind the structure: Stallworth has the opportunity to register a huge season in 2007, playing with quarterback Tom Brady, and on a team that figures to be a Super Bowl contender. And after the 2007 campaign, the Patriots will have to dig deep to retain him, dramatically rework his contract, or allow him to go back into the free agent market. It was a creative concept developed by Rosenhaus, one accepted by several of the teams bidding for Stallworth, to maximize his client's earning potential. At the same time, it provides New England a big-play threat for at least one season, with the capacity to retain Stallworth beyond that, if desired.
Stallworth, who played last season in Philadelphia after being acquired from the New Orleans Saints, also was being courted by the Eagles, Dolphins and Titans.

Stallworth, 26, had 38 catches for 725 yards and five touchdowns for the Eagles in 2006. A first-round choice of the Saints in the 2002 draft, he has 233 career receptions for 3,516 yards and 28 touchdowns in 68 games, including 44 starts.
League and union officials are investigating a Philadelphia Inquirer report that Stallworth is in the NFL's substance-abuse program, sources from both parties told ESPN.com.
Citing unnamed sources, the Philadelphia Inquirer reported Monday that Stallworth is a participant in the league program, and that he could be subject to suspension if he suffered a repeat violation of its conditions. The newspaper also reported that a breach of the program's confidentiality agreement can warrant a league fine, and NFL and NFL Players Association officials began to seek out possible sources for the leak on Monday.
The Patriots have been busy this offseason, adding coveted linebacker Adalius Thomas, ranked No. 2 on ESPN.com's list of free agents, as well as Dolphins kick returner/receiver Wes Welker, tight end Kyle Brady and backup running back Sammy Morris.
Senior writers Michael Smith and Len Pasquarelli cover the NFL for ESPN.com.

Source ESPN

[DayWalker]

yeah i had heard them mention something like that... odd...

Now Theft you know I, a Broncos fan, am not to concerned about the Pats.

IMO the year we lose to you in the regular season is the year we win the SB. Too bad we don't meet up this year.

However, we do play Indy and I am also of the opinion that the year we beat Indy in a game that matters is the year we win the SB.

Pray we don't draft a gifted D-lineman in the draft... that's really the last piece of the puzzle... that and staying healthy...

6 more months!!!

[Theft]

Pats are going to win this next SB. Calling it now

[Theft]

And yet another signing by the Patriots. Kelley Washington for WR. ^^ His deal is setup just like Stallworth's.

[DayWalker]

My Broncos grab Brandon Stokley from the Colts.

One of the best slot WRs in the game.
Cutler sure has enough weapons...
Now if only we could get a pass rusher or two

[Theft]

The AFC will dominate again this season...

[DayWalker]

The AFC will dominate again this season...

indeed... the Bucs are the only team in the NFC that I can say has improved...

The AFC is making moves left and right.