NFL Thread

[John25]

Day one wrap-up.

Winners
1) Patriots
- They stole Hightower from me AND they get Chandler Jones. Shit just got REAL!

2) Vikings
- Solidified the O-line with Kalil. Raped the Browns and got a decent value with Harrison Smith

3) Cowboys
- Got Claiborne and didn't have to give up much

4) Steelers
- Greatest Value pick All night! DeCastro is a beast!

Losers

1) Browns
- Stupidest franchise in the history of all sports after this shit. I should be happy since we're in the same division, but there fuck-up has me raging. I can't believe Mike Holmgren is able to sleep tonight after putting that shit round together.

2) Seahawks
- Alright... What the fuck man! I mean, what the fuck! What a reach!

But don't totally fret! The Ravens can will the draft if we get any combination of Glenn/Upshaw/Hill

I personally want the Upshaw/Hill combo! Let's go Ozzie! Do me proud my nig!

You think the Chargers drafting Ingram wasn't a Top Winning pick ??

[$Greatness$]

You think the Chargers drafting Ingram wasn't a Top Winning pick ??

I just noticed I didn't add them in there. I put them in the winners bracket on all the other forums I went to. I must've forgot, but hell yeah they won! Jets would be losers for passing on Ingram, but Couples is a good pick, too. Wouldn't have taken him over Ingram though. Didn't get that shit one bit.

Did I say the Browns are stupid?

[ps3freak18]

I think the move up one spot for 3 picks was dumb but honestly I liked their picks. Richardson and Weeden are great picks in my book. Weeden has played pro sport before so he knows the pressure. His age is a factor but if he starts by late next year or first game of following season you can still easily get 10 years out of him. Which is about the norm for most QBs with the exception of guys like Favre and Manning.

[RaY_210]

After reading a bit, I'm a bit iffy on the Texans picks. Not Mercilus, but Posey more than Brooks. And I'm totally loving what the Packers have done so far. The season came come soon enough

[$Greatness$]

My man Ozzie has gambled and got dealt with for the past 2 days. We lost Hightower, Konz and Sanu. I really wanted Konz and Hill with that second pick. I thought Ozzie would move up, but he stood pat. Then we trade up just to get dealt with by the Bengals and draft the RB out of Temple. I still trust Ozzie, but we got dealt with this time around even though I'm hyped about the Upshaw pick. I do like the pick of KO with the second pick, but I did want Konz or Hill there. Really wish we would have got T.Y Hilton, too, but oh well.

Day 3! Bring me a Hall of Famer on the offensive side of the ball!

[bash]

Bears had a great draft so far too. We have 2 legit new WRs, we got a new DE and a safety. Can't wait till the season starts.

The only thing thats worrying me is that we didn't get any oline help.

[The Black Wolf]

Really proud of my dolphins, they had a really good draft.

[ps3freak18]

What do you guys think about the Saints draft with the limited number of picks they had? I liked the Hicks and Toon picks for sure. Hicks has to be worked with but I think in 2 years he could wind up being a force. Don't know much about Toon but from what I've seen he looks pretty damn good. I've seen reports concerned with injury concerns but outside of that he has great size for a WR. The other picks I don't know much about them why I'm looking for others opinions.

[John25]

I don't Follow College ball but the General Concensus was the Raiders got a B- for their Picks (one of them being a Fellow Brit called Jack Crawford DE which is awesome

Was great to see Reggie McKenzie work his magic by trading a 5th to Detroit for a 5th 10 places lower plus a 7th Too

[admartian]

Apart from the Ravens first 2 picks; I give them a C. Too many guys left on the board, and I feel, that the Ravens get 'too cute' with their picks (i.e. too much into the 'value' or 'unknown' player).

For example, they took Temple at the end of the 3rd when Miller was still on the board. They take some random guard instead of taking a center like Molk or Vlachos - where we don't have depth at C and already having Osemele at G AND while guys like Crick and Ta'amu are still on the board!!!!!!!They take some random OL instead of smoeone like Bobby Massie late.

Now unless someone wants to tell me why those guys are better prospects, I'm sticking to my guns.

Really questionable, and right now "I'm 'in Ozzie I kinda only sort of trust right now..."

Being conservative is all well and good but sometimes, if there's good talent there, it's GOOD to trade up (see Pats in the 1st).



The Bengals probably had the best draft in my books.

[R_Mac_1]

Apart from the Ravens first 2 picks; I give them a C. Too many guys left on the board, and I feel, that the Ravens get 'too cute' with their picks (i.e. too much into the 'value' or 'unknown' player).

For example, they took Temple at the end of the 3rd when Miller was still on the board. They take some random guard instead of taking a center like Molk or Vlachos - where we don't have depth at C and already having Osemele at G AND while guys like Crick and Ta'amu are still on the board!!!!!!!They take some random OL instead of smoeone like Bobby Massie late.

Now unless someone wants to tell me why those guys are better prospects, I'm sticking to my guns.

Really questionable, and right now "I'm 'in Ozzie I kinda only sort of trust right now..."

Being conservative is all well and good but sometimes, if there's good talent there, it's GOOD to trade up (see Pats in the 1st).



The Bengals probably had the best draft in my books.

I think the knock on Massie was his questionable intelligence, attitude and work ethic. There had to be a good reason every team passed on him for so long. Trust me, half of the Bears forum was bitching about not taking Massie, then the concerns about him came out. That being said, he's worth the risk later.

I really hope the safety Hardin can develop well for the Bears. I see why some people queston the pick, but I also see what Emery was trying to do with the pick. Dudes a beast (6-3 220) that can hit but has good cover skills, being a corner and all. He could be a tight end equalizer. Hopefully his shoulder injury was just a freak occurrence and he doesn't turn into Mike Brown 2.0 (injury-wise).

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[bash]

I think the knock on Massie was his questionable intelligence, attitude and work ethic. There had to be a good reason every team passed on him for so long. Trust me, half of the Bears forum was bitching about not taking Massie, then the concerns about him came out. That being said, he's worth the risk later.

I really hope the safety Hardin can develop well for the Bears. I see why some people queston the pick, but I also see what Emery was trying to do with the pick. Dudes a beast (6-3 220) that can hit but has good cover skills, being a corner and all. He could be a tight end equalizer. Hopefully his shoulder injury was just a freak occurrence and he doesn't turn into Mike Brown 2.0 (injury-wise).

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I think people are complaining about that pick because we still have no one to cover deep routes. We gave up a lot of home run plays last year...

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[FdMstng99]

I'm still kind of pissed that the Pats traded up in front of us and got Hightower. Ravens should have moved up to get him. I am glad we got Upshaw but the way it looked I thought someone was going to trade in front of us again and grab him. I also would have liked to get Konz or Hill as well. The later rounds wasn't too bad, I agree with you admartian but lets she how these picks do over the next couple years.

[admartian]

I'm still kind of pissed that the Pats traded up in front of us and got Hightower. Ravens should have moved up to get him. I am glad we got Upshaw but the way it looked I thought someone was going to trade in front of us again and grab him. I also would have liked to get Konz or Hill as well. The later rounds wasn't too bad, I agree with you admartian but lets she how these picks do over the next couple years.

I was kinda happy Konz fell deep into the 2nd where I thought we could trade up for him (using that 4th rounder we got for trading down). But I think it was very very risky for us to wait for Konz or even Osemele at that stage, because we still needed to address the interior line. And someone could have very well traded up for Osmele.

So I think if we had to trade up, then it should have been then.

I do agree, let's wait and see. Though I don't have much faith since lately our late round picks have been non-contributional.

I just hope we don't turn Streeter into the next Marcus Smith, Justin Harper, Demetrius Williams etc etc. He's got as much upside as Stephen Hill minus the hype. I think he's a steal providing Cam Cam uses him well. If he doesn't then it's a head scratcher, cos someone at the Raven boards said he's a perfect fit for his Air Coryell.

Also, starting to warm to the Bernard Pierce pick, and a little more on the Gradkowski pick.

[FdMstng99]

I just don't know if I have the confidence in Cam to get the most out of Streeter, I really like that pick too.

[R_Mac_1]

Junior Seau dead, apparently by self inflicted gunshot wound.

http://m.tmz.com/article_head.ftl?id...ior-seau-dead/

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[Royals]

Junior Seau dead, apparently by self inflicted gunshot wound.

http://m.tmz.com/article_head.ftl?id...ior-seau-dead/

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Yeah just saw this on ESPN, suicide is never the solution.

[admartian]

This is so sad.

One of the players I grew up watching the sport.

R.I.P sir.

[Funeralfog]

RIP Seau, that was a shock, maybe it was because of '07

[The Black Wolf]

He will be missed.

[Sub-stance1]

Dude was one hell of a linebacker.

[ps3freak18]

Yeah sad news indeed. Hate to see when someone decides to take their life.

[$Greatness$]

That is truly sad. I hope left never gets that bad for me that I would do something so selfish as to take my own life. Not when I see many people suffering from way worse matters than anything I could muster up, making me look like a total smuck. But none the less, may the Lord rest his soul. Tremendous player. I remember when that story came out a couple years ago when he had that car accident that many said was a suicide attempt. Wonder what happened?

But to go back to football, the Ravens went the safe route. Didn't make any silly mistakes in the draft, but they didn't go out and grab a play-maker who, in my opinion, instantly made us better. Outside of us getting Upshaw of course, but he'll be in a deadlock battle with my man Elm Street. (Paul Kruger if you didn't know) Streeter is a nice project who fits Cam's system. Gonna be interesting to see what happens with him. I still trust my man Tandon Doss who I still believe is going to be a beast.

Kinda wish we would have traded up for David DeCastro once we started sliding down the board.

[admartian]

That is truly sad. I hope left never gets that bad for me that I would do something so selfish as to take my own life. Not when I see many people suffering from way worse matters than anything I could muster up, making me look like a total smuck. But none the less, may the Lord rest his soul. Tremendous player. I remember when that story came out a couple years ago when he had that car accident that many said was a suicide attempt. Wonder what happened?

But to go back to football, the Ravens went the safe route. Didn't make any silly mistakes in the draft, but they didn't go out and grab a play-maker who, in my opinion, instantly made us better. Outside of us getting Upshaw of course, but he'll be in a deadlock battle with my man Elm Street. (Paul Kruger if you didn't know) Streeter is a nice project who fits Cam's system. Gonna be interesting to see what happens with him. I still trust my man Tandon Doss who I still believe is going to be a beast.

Kinda wish we would have traded up for David DeCastro once we started sliding down the board.

Double agree.

On the first note, it's easy to lose sight of things, no matter how bad things get, let's hope the worse I get is power ballads and a bottles beer.

I'm more comfortable about our draft now that it's sunk in. Like you, the only regret is getting Konz deep in the second. But I think the FO is confident there'll be good talent there next year (seeing as we aren't truly F'd as we do still have Birk).

As for Doss, I'd genuinely like to see what he can do. Also, I think if there's a roster spot, and it ahs to go down between Streeter and David Reed, Is ay give it to Streeter. Reed doesn't deserve to be there and I'm sure someone else can cover the return duties.

[The Black Wolf]

Jonathan Vilma got punished severly for the bounty program and will appeal it. He's going to be gone for a year.

Do you guys agree with the players, that Goodell is being too harsh?