Professional Wrestling Thread

[claud3]

This is a collection of c.m.punks pipebomds. This is why the wwe needs to keep him and let him speak his mimd and reveal the company more and who runs it

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4TG0M15XsyY

[justintheman87]

What the WWE needs to do more of is allow the wrestlers more creative freedom. It is what gave birth to The Rock and Stone Cold, easily the 2 greatest mic personas of all time next to Piper. Stop scripting them all the time and allow them to feel the moment and get involved with their character. How can they align themselves to a character if everything is laid out for them?

[claud3]

Totally agree mate. Its what give birth to the attitude era and beyond. Punk is an excellent mic guy and needs more air time with it. Its this pg shit that has him limited to a few words of sometimes scripted crap

[DeviousOne]

Even the rock and stone cold were scripted to a point where there was a discussion on what was gonna happen. The last time wrestlers had freedom to do what they wanted was in WCW and we all know how that worked out

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[claud3]

Yes we all know that mate. But it was awsome scripting

[DeviousOne]

In WWE u have guys like triple H and undertaker that sit at the writers table that shouldn't be there. Never has any wrestler been able to be a good writer.

The problem is they focus on the top guys which they don't even know how to use them then when it comes to mid carders they have nothing in place to get them to the top.

Idk I think a faction would be a great idea right about now the nexus was decent and I do enjoy wade barret maybe he needs a new faction that would be great imo

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[claud3]

True. But i think they are there to fill in the caps. But its crazy that taker and HHH is so bad at it. But i guess if in the business do the business

[DeviousOne]

I know they sit in on those meetings as far as how much input they do have? I couldn't say. However I can say kevin nash sucks at it and so does hogan lol

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[claud3]

after the change to kiddy scripting. The quality is storylines as sucked ass big time

This vince pointing out a new era and it what happened to it. OH RIGHT pg

http://www.wwe.com/classics/25-momen...e-attitude-era

[DeviousOne]

The new PG era has to do with Linda Vinces wife going into politics however they need to get past this pg era bs and do something new

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[claud3]

with it being there for good. I feel a wwe kiddy era always and thats scary

[DeviousOne]

Idk we'll see about that I don't believe that would be the case but then again I never thought the pg era would last this long as well

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[XMW]

PG isn't the problem, it's the lazy ass writers and WWE's fear for bad press. Smackdown has always been PG even in the AE (I know PG rating has changed a little but not that dramatically). And business also isn't down because of PG, WWF was PG when Hogan was on top selling out everywhere and setting attendance/gate records everywhere he went. Vince is just too old to run this company, he has no clue what's hot or relevant today (Justin Bieber isn't in the eyes of most so I'm thankfull we didn't get him at WM27).

I hope HHH takes over soon as he seems to have a great mind for the business. Imo the fact that he's been everywhere on the card also helps. He's been in the undercard, he's main evented, he's been pushed, he's been buried etc.. It's a good thing imo as he actually knows how it is to be in those places as opposed to Vince.

[DeviousOne]

PG isn't the problem, it's the lazy ass writers and WWE's fear for bad press. Smackdown has always been PG even in the AE (I know PG rating has changed a little but not that dramatically). And business also isn't down because of PG, WWF was PG when Hogan was on top selling out everywhere and setting attendance/gate records everywhere he went. Vince is just too old to run this company, he has no clue what's hot or relevant today (Justin Bieber isn't in the eyes of most so I'm thankfull we didn't get him at WM27).

I hope HHH takes over soon as he seems to have a great mind for the business. Imo the fact that he's been everywhere on the card also helps. He's been in the undercard, he's main evented, he's been pushed, he's been buried etc.. It's a good thing imo as he actually knows how it is to be in those places as opposed to Vince.

I was thinking the same as far as the 80's which was pg!

I mean idk its hard for any of us to say what's the one thing that would make it better. I feel the titles basically don't mean shit anymore they def don't use the IC and US titles as they should to build up the mid card. Its like u have a title holder and no one wants to fued over those belts. They need to have feuds over those 2 titles to build up the mid card I mean can u give me 10 relevant title holders of these titles in the last 6 or 7 years when I was a kid Mr perfect held the title, shawn michael bret hart razor ramon, hell even the rock, the last time I felt that title meant shit (IC belt) was when Orton held it back in 04....

Triple H has promised to bring the tag team division to relevance however its always kofi holding it with someone and his teams always win? So wtf is the point?



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[claud3]

Over the years the wwe has turned into the wwe in the since, it has been nothing but a force of we have to be safe for kids and kids alone. Its lost the true meaning of a wrestling company and become entertainment and only entertainment were wrestling is a side dish and not an important part anymore. The vince has lost the appeal of the fans, they know what they want and he knowns what they want if you know what i mean. He is catering to the pg era and shit writing skill of dudes in a corner. Put a group of gimps in a room and they can produce Shakespeare. You see the writers are not the only problem. Its the production skill and who is who on the inside of the company is a failure. Vince will not hand all power to Triple h, he will still have control over the direction of the company and will always will. The wwe needs to be the wwf and it needs to make a choice of the path it takes. So we need to make the wwe no its errors of its ways and take it to a new old level of direction. This pg shit that the wwe has feel into, has the company is in a spiral of kiddy control. The slam show has it that you can not focus on the neck area at all, this is proof that they are so dumb in what they do. The wwe is now got to the stage that they will never ever cater to the old fans that made the wwe what it was back in the 1980' s & 1990' s... after that it all dried up to the poin were kids now will never ever know were the wwe came from and were its going. The company has been doing ok in the stock market and the ratings have dropped and they are bringing and making rumours that oldies will be making a comeback for wrestlemania 30. This is not a bad thing... but until that point the wwe will hang onto the past because it was a past they knew and want to go back to. We need that comeback and drive this wwe company back to reality

[Suley]

Marked so much when Del Rio made Orton tap.

[claud3]

True, its showing how much i want to make del rio tap out

[DeviousOne]

Marked so much when Del Rio made Orton tap.

Wtf??? Damn I haven't been staying on top of the WWE current events! Imma do my research and be back lol

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[DeviousOne]

Ok I caught up! So wtf del rio is #1 contender again??? Ugh....I'm sure he's gonna get the title now hopefully ziggler cashes in on del rio looks like barret and Orton may continue their feud when he's back...would be the best one cause all feuds right now suck!

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[claud3]

Agreed, del rio to get the title and lose it
Makes perfect sense to me

[DeviousOne]

There needs to be some damn shake up in the WWE give ryback the title and let it roll lmao

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[claud3]

The wwe is catering to the dumb mode, were real wwe fans do not actually care anymore

[DeviousOne]

They are playing it too safe....I'm sure they is reasoning behind it backstage politics being a main reason. After seeing zack ryder getting buried on raw by kane looks like he's on his way out soon....

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[claud3]

To safe mate... it kills me to see the wwe not being the Wwf anymore

[DeviousOne]

They can play it safe and give us something better than we have now...I sometimes wish I was involved with the backstage stuff of wwe so I could understand why they give us the crap they do...

I enjoy a great match Cm punk and DB was fun to watch. Jericho and ziggler was good. How many tru faces do they have at the moment??

Cena, Orton, sheamus, kofi and mr ron killings, santino? Oh yea rey and sincara I guess kane to an extent and funkasaurs? Um christan...Jericho left so he is not on the list

That's all I can pop off the top of my head now heals...

The Miz, Del rio, ziggler, cm punk, db, cody rhodes, big show, wade barrett, Brock lesnar,

Not looking great for booking since all these guys have feuded in the past and all the up and comers are heals....also the heals as it stands are mostly mid carders being booked for main event type matches or not booked at all....

Ugh! Lol

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